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Eevo
30th June 2013, 10:27 PM
if they were driving a landrover, they wouldn't of gotten stuck and hence, not gotten caught!




AN early morning four-wheel-drive misadventure has left two men facing drink driving charges, after one vehicle became bogged in the Gawler River.
Police received calls about 2.30am today reporting that a car was bogged in a reserve near Gawler River.
A patrol driving along Richardson Drive, at Reid, found two Toyota 4WDs, one of them towing the other, trying to climb a steep river bank.
The men driving the 4WDs were taken to the Gawler police station and breath tested.
Police say a Gawler man, 29, returned a blood alcohol reading of 0.130 and an Elizabeth South man, 31, returned a reading of 0.135.
Both were reported for drink driving and hit with an instant six-month loss of licence.
Their vehicles were towed out of the river and impounded by police.


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manic
30th June 2013, 10:34 PM
I thought drink driving only applied to public roads... So what I can't drive drunk in a river any more!? :D lol.

KENO1947
30th June 2013, 10:44 PM
Drink driving applies on the water as well

Jeff

Kevin B
30th June 2013, 10:47 PM
At least there vehicles were recovered... :D

Redback
1st July 2013, 07:40 AM
Good, should happen more often, one of my pet hates is being out 4WDriving with people who think it's OK to drink while driving around in the bush, if you can't wait till you get back to camp, you have a drinking problem:mad:

Baz.

FenianEel
1st July 2013, 08:59 AM
I thought drink driving only applied to public roads... So what I can't drive drunk in a river any more!? :D lol.

You can get done drink driving anywhere.

Can't stand when deadheads do things like this.
I'm with Redback, there should be more of it.
I hate it when ****ed idiots are carrying on whilst out 4WDing.
I've had a go at a few drunken yobbos, particularly up the beach, doing donuts and jumping protecting dunes in the middle of the night! :mad:
Even got 4 blokes arrested one weekend :2up:

PeterM
1st July 2013, 10:42 AM
.135! Naturally the conversation would have gone along the lines of -

"Have you had anything to drink tonight?"
"Nah, oh ... just a couple of beers."

digger
1st July 2013, 11:29 AM
AUSTRALIAN ROAD RULES.

(1) A road-related area is any of the following:
(a) an area that divides a road;
(b) a footpath or nature strip adjacent to a road;
(c) an area that is not a road and that is open to
the public and designated for use by cyclists or animals;
(d) an area that is not a road and that is open to or used
by the public for driving, riding or parking vehicles.
Note—

(2) However, unless the contrary intention appears, a reference in the Australian Road Rules (except in this Division) to a road-related area includes a reference to:
(a) an area so far as the area is declared, under another law of this jurisdiction, to be a road-related area for the Australian Road Rules; or
(b) any shoulder of a road; or
(c) any other area that is a footpath or nature strip as defined in the dictionary, but does not include a reference to an area so far as the area is declared, under another law of this jurisdiction, not to be a road-related area for the Australian Road Rules.

Judgements have put this as basically anywhere you can drive (whether supposed to or not) without having to open gates etc etc.. so if can be accessed direct without getting out of your car and isnt private land (barring easement and places commonly used with access) its a road or Road related area. = offence - this shows how most 4wd areas are also 'road related areas'.

manic
1st July 2013, 01:20 PM
You can get done drink driving anywhere.

Can't stand when deadheads do things like this.
I'm with Redback, there should be more of it.
I hate it when ****ed idiots are carrying on whilst out 4WDing.
I've had a go at a few drunken yobbos, particularly up the beach, doing donuts and jumping protecting dunes in the middle of the night! :mad:
Even got 4 blokes arrested one weekend :2up:

For the record my comment was tongue in cheek (just in case, you never know if you come across correctly on these forums). I found the thought of two drunken toyota drivers stuck in a river amusing. In reality it may not have been all that comedy.

Fortunately I have yet to come across drunken yobbos hooning about off road. I hope I never will.

That said when I envisioned participating in Australia's great pastimes I imagined myself driving out bush on dusty outback roads with a cold beer in the holder. Romantic visions, but the reality would probably lead to half the beer spilt, the other half replaced by dust and a foot well littered with knocked out teeth!

FenianEel
1st July 2013, 01:42 PM
For the record my comment was tongue in cheek Knew that :D

jimr1
1st July 2013, 03:30 PM
I thought drink driving only applied to public roads... So what I can't drive drunk in a river any more!? :D lol.
You have to change your Snorkel into a Perascope!!!..:D

FeatherWeightDriver
1st July 2013, 03:46 PM
That said when I envisioned participating in Australia's great pastimes I imagined myself driving out bush on dusty outback roads with a cold beer in the holder. Romantic visions, but the reality would probably lead to half the beer spilt, the other half replaced by dust and a foot well littered with knocked out teeth!

Unfortunately for you not legal in NSW, where it is also against the against the law to be drinking alcohol while driving :eek:

This is a NSW only law afaik ROAD RULES 2008 - REG 298-1 NSW rule: drinking while driving (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_reg/rr2008104/s298.1.html)

mick88
28th September 2013, 08:12 PM
Unfortunately for you not legal in NSW, where it is also against the against the law to be drinking alcohol while driving :eek:

This is a NSW only law afaik ROAD RULES 2008 - REG 298-1 NSW rule: drinking while driving (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_reg/rr2008104/s298.1.html)

Pretty sure it applies in Vic too!

Albert
28th September 2013, 08:27 PM
In Qld You cant drink and drive, or be a passenger and drink!
No open container of alcohol is allowed in the car at all. :nazilock:
Yobbos dont have to be drunk to play up and be dickheads, its all to do with attitude, drinking or not.

newhue
28th September 2013, 09:44 PM
now now boys. I was a sober dick and drowned my car at Fraser. It took the drunkest bloke on the island to show up in his patrol, then order the hordes of on-lookers to get either side of the ute and start lifting the tray. He found another 4.2lt Patrol owner to beat chests with, and out popped my truck like a cork when the suction was broken.

Now I can imaging the "is it safe" brigade will say someone could have got hurt. Well the locals with the tractors where not going to help, even when I offered green backs for their help. So a drunken yobbo saved my day. Then drove the family back to camp. Then towed my car 9km to Orchid beach to be sentenced to death by the local mechanic. Drove me back to camp. Then came back up the beach the next morning and packed up my camp and drove all my gear to the dead car awaiting a tilt tray.

The experience changed how I see Patrols, yobbo's, and drunks. Because all the clean shave straight sober people just took photos.

Disco Muppet
28th September 2013, 10:30 PM
Ahh but, was he a drunk yobbo or a decent human being first?
Good people come in all sorts, shapes, and sizes. :)
Despite being a total cynical, sarcastic bastard myself, I try to see the best in people. It takes some looking at times, but it can pay off as you well know.
Cheers
Muppet

Redback
29th September 2013, 07:42 AM
I would imagine that him and his mates would have done what they did sober, because they are nice blokes, still no excuse to be drunk driving around though, especially when you have your family in the car, assuming they were drunk and not just having a couple of beers.

As for the locals and bystanders that did nothing, typical of the times now, knowbody wants to help anymore, they would rather facebook their friends than help or youtube the incident and be a hero that way:twisted:

The locals, well they see it all the time, I guess they figure it's just another dickhead tourist getting bogged:(

Baz.

Sitec
29th September 2013, 08:09 AM
The place where he got bogged is somewhere you don't want to take your Fourby. There's a group on Bookface local to here who are often doing silly things down there and on all the local 'dry weather roads only'... They then post on Bookface asking for help and another load of people have to go down there and 'recover' them... all in salty smelly slop! No sympathy!

newhue
29th September 2013, 07:15 PM
I would imagine that him and his mates would have done what they did sober, because they are nice blokes, still no excuse to be drunk driving around though, especially when you have your family in the car, assuming they were drunk and not just having a couple of beers.

As for the locals and bystanders that did nothing, typical of the times now, knowbody wants to help anymore, they would rather facebook their friends than help or youtube the incident and be a hero that way:twisted:

The locals, well they see it all the time, I guess they figure it's just another dickhead tourist getting bogged:(

Baz.

Yeh Redback I think you've hit the nail on the head. The locals played this game of try this bloke, but he wasn't home. So a neighbour would say try ol mate down there, but his tractor was playing up, so try this bloke..... It would have been better to just say too bad mate, you only the 1000th bloke who's done that. In the end I didn't feel all that bad, as the towie said even the locals of 30 years get caught out and kill their cars. The towie was one of them.

I might add, the drunkest bloke on the island was just out cruzing. No speeding, heavy footed around corners, donuts on the beach kind of thing; well from what I saw anyway. He was a courier truck driver from Mackay on annual leave. Just really quite drunk and could handle himself so it seems.
I'm not saying DD is a good thing, but there is quite a difference with a controlled put put kind of driver having a few holiday beers, and a lead foot rip it up go fast yobbo. I guess however rules are rules.

bob10
30th September 2013, 09:10 AM
Years ago , on Fraser & Moreton, the sober drivers were the odd ones out. How there were not more accidents is beyond me. I've done it, but not any more. The older you get, the more you realise you are not bulletproof. I'd also never forgive myself if I hurt some one, but I have to admit, we had a good time,Bob

Bigbjorn
1st October 2013, 07:58 AM
AUSTRALIAN ROAD RULES.

(1) A road-related area is any of the following:
(a) an area that divides a road;
(b) a footpath or nature strip adjacent to a road;
(c) an area that is not a road and that is open to
the public and designated for use by cyclists or animals;
(d) an area that is not a road and that is open to or used
by the public for driving, riding or parking vehicles.
Note—

(2) However, unless the contrary intention appears, a reference in the Australian Road Rules (except in this Division) to a road-related area includes a reference to:
(a) an area so far as the area is declared, under another law of this jurisdiction, to be a road-related area for the Australian Road Rules; or
(b) any shoulder of a road; or
(c) any other area that is a footpath or nature strip as defined in the dictionary, but does not include a reference to an area so far as the area is declared, under another law of this jurisdiction, not to be a road-related area for the Australian Road Rules.

Judgements have put this as basically anywhere you can drive (whether supposed to or not) without having to open gates etc etc.. so if can be accessed direct without getting out of your car and isnt private land (barring easement and places commonly used with access) its a road or Road related area. = offence - this shows how most 4wd areas are also 'road related areas'.

Back in the 1970's when drink-driving was considered less reprehensible than it is today, a mate who liked a drink used to park in the servo next door to his local pub. If he only had a few he would drive home but if he had a big drink and couldn't scunge a lift home would sleep it off in his car next door. One night when tucked up in the back seat, two coppers smashed a window and unceremoniously hauled him out onto the ground by the feet. He was charged with drunk in charge of a motor vehicle. Next morning in the Magistrates Court he had the duty solicitor point out that he had not driven and had no intention of doing so. That is why he locked himself in the car for a sobering-up sleep, and he considered the law didn't apply on private property. Your Worship pointed out that he had the keys in his possession and thus was in charge, he was drunk, and the servo is considered a public road if no gates, chains, or signs preventing access are in use. The police (lying in court as usual) claimed they thought he was ill or in distress so they took the extreme measure of breaking in to the car. The mag. gave him $100 and one month cancellation, about the minimum then, saying he accepted that the defendant was attempting to do the right thing and not drive drunk.

The duty solicitor told him that if he was to do that again, to give his keys to the publican to mind, or to a mate to bring around the next day.

He went and talked to the servo lessee who also thought the place was private property. The lessee put up chains which he locked at go home time and signs saying something like 'Private Property. Persons and vehicles are permitted access for the purposes of doing business here".

rb30gtr
1st October 2013, 08:07 AM
A friends uncle was fined for drink driving in country Victoria about 12 years ago:

On a ride-on lawn mower, on his own private property. Mid range, loss of actual driving license for 6 months. 38 degree day, 3 quick beers to get through the mowing saga.

This is the scenario, he was mowing down near his property fence which happens to be near a dirt road, cops stopped to ask if he had seen some hoons the turned off the main road, cops noticed the beer in the lawn mower stubby holder. And the rest is history.

laney
1st October 2013, 08:22 AM
Can get done even riding a push bike while over .05 as a mate of mine thought he would ride his bike home after being at the pub cops grabed him blew over lost his car licence for 18 months.

Bigbjorn
1st October 2013, 08:31 AM
Can get done even riding a push bike while over .05 as a mate of mine thought he would ride his bike home after being at the pub cops grabed him blew over lost his car licence for 18 months.

Early '80's a guy from Hemmant was pinched for drink-driving, then some weeks later, on a push-bike, and later still, using a horse and sulky. I asked him why he drank at Fisher's in Wynnum when the Queensport at Hemmant was a couple of blocks from his place. He told me he was barred from the Queensport for knocking out the publican when refused service.

He reckoned the local law was looking out for him and victimising him. Probably needed it.

rb30gtr
1st October 2013, 08:36 AM
What about a Segway?

Or if cars start 'driving themselves' can you then drink 'sit'?

Didge
4th October 2013, 08:37 AM
I tried one quiet beer, once and only once, whilst someone else was driving my car in the bush. Not good for the guts unless you like your grog agitated. As Baz said, leave it for the camp. It's all these drunken knobs and those with similar attitudes that are getting the gates locked on the rest of us. :)

Laney, I reckon the cops who go after someone on a pushbike are just pri&$s. He doesn't drive and the pigs still have to find fault - soft target!

stevo
4th October 2013, 12:11 PM
So drinking as a passenger in a vehicle is against the law, every fly out day we break the law then, sober driver in van but rest of us usually polish off a carton or two:angel: