If you had a new 90 coming....

[JamesB71]

What would you consider your first ports of call in regards to mods and accessories?

What do you consider absolutely necessary, and what have you done that has given you the most joy?

First up I am considering the bulkhead mod and seat rail extensions for extra foot room. Im 6'1 so figure that will be vital.

What would be on your list?

James.

[carlschmid2002]

Where do you live? How much have you got to spend? If you are near Sydney drop in and see Daniel (Mulgo) at Buy 4x4 Land Rover Toyota Nissan Accessories and Parts Online | Web Store | Expedition Centre Australia by Mulgo (http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au) He sells the seat rail extensions which I can recommend. My mods include - X box from Mulgo, Tubular bar from Mulgo, Dual battery system from Mulgo, Steering guard from Mulgo, ARB Compressor, Wind cheater rack from Mulgo, Twin Tanks from Mulgo, Rear jerry and spare carrier from Rijidij, Pioneer stereo and subwoofer, 80 Ch CB, Soundproofing from Jaycar, Towbar LR, Spootties LR, Snorkel LR, Nugget snorkel connector, Internal restraint net from Mulgo.
The only things left to get is a good winch, and a Autron cruise control. It's hard to say which is the best mod. I love the stereo. I love the roof rack. I love the jerry carrier. Start with the seat rails though. They will make it much more comfortable.

[BigBlueOne]

This is what i have done to my 90 since January 2012. I no particular order. I bought a Redarc BCDC1220 battery controller/charger and a then ordered a dual battery tray from Devon 4x4 and fitted an Optima red top (start) and an optima yellow top (aux). I have also fitted a dual jerry can holder from Rijidij (forum member). I got fitted an ARB bull bar and a set of IPF spot lights and also fitted some rear drawers from Front runner and then just screwed some tie downs on top of the drawers to hold the fridge down. I fitted an 80 channel radio, new stereo and also hard wired the air compressor in.

But to answer your question the best thing i have done by far is the dual battery setup. I can run the fridge for weeks on end with only a short 15 minute drive to and from work.

[dawsey]

I've had mine 6 months ..put a front bar and tow bar, new home made dead animal seat covers,,,, but best mod off all was this....drive it for a week you will understand where I'm coming from..

[Loubrey]

What would you consider your first ports of call in regards to mods and accessories?

What do you consider absolutely necessary, and what have you done that has given you the most joy?

First up I am considering the bulkhead mod and seat rail extensions for extra foot room. Im 6'1 so figure that will be vital.

What would be on your list?

James.

Puma 90's don't have bulkheads behind the front row seats, so a little confused about the mod you're referring to?

My first stop would in any case be Daniel at Mulgo.

1. The seat rails are an absolute joy and IMO the best on the market.
2. The gas strut for the rear door is such and improvement on the operation of the door, I can't believe I've not done it years ago!
3. Diff guard on the front. Nor sure what terrain you'll encounter, but mine's had some serious work...
4. I'm personally an advocate for frontal protection and some suitable bar work is a must. The OEM bumper is reasonably soft and easy to bend in a gentle off road slide.
5. 2 way radio if you plan to go on runs with your local AULRO group.

I'd steer clear of any suspension, drivetrain and engine mods for at least the first three years. Not everybody's view, just my opinion.

Cheers,

Lou

[defender_i_hardly_know_er]

Do something about the inadequate fuel tank. It's way too small and is the only thing that bothers me.

[toad]

Fuel tank - filling up every second day gets painful fast. Mulgo aux tank worked well for me.

[3 Lions]

What would you consider your first ports of call in regards to mods and accessories?

What do you consider absolutely necessary, and what have you done that has given you the most joy?

First up I am considering the bulkhead mod and seat rail extensions for extra foot room. Im 6'1 so figure that will be vital.

What would be on your list?

James.

I'm 6 1'' or 6 2'', so one of the 1st things I did was the seat rails, used some old steel tube, I think it was 20 or 25mm.

Made a big Improvement on the seats being able to go back further, was a bit of time faffing around making them but cost sod all.

If I was too do it againI would probably buy MULGO'S or Mudstuff.co.uk Mudrails, either way good.
Do it, it will make a difference to you, for the better.....:)

[rijidij]

Do something about the inadequate fuel tank. It's way too small and is the only thing that bothers me.


Fuel tank - filling up every second day gets painful fast. Mulgo aux tank worked well for me.

All the 90 owners who I've done work for have been disappointed in the standard fuel capacity.

If you go with an extra tank (or two), Mulgo also do a mod to the standard filler neck so you don't have to cut holes in your panels. You can fill one, two or three tanks all from the original position.

Definitely fit seat rails too.

Mulgo filler mod
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/05/563.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Puma%2090%20Fuel%20Tanks/Dual-filler.jpg.html)


Of course the other option for carrying extra fuel is a jerry can holder on the back ;):D

Rijidij Off Road dual rear bar
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/07/1612.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Wheel%20Carriers/Defender%20dual%20rear%20bar/Defender%20Dual%20Rear%20Carrier/Defender-jerry-can-holder.jpg.html)

Cheers, Murray

[JamesB71]

So may things I need!

Thanks for the advice on the bulk head. Im glad not to have to screw around with removing that. Im sure that would have become apparent as soon as I got to have a look at it in the flesh.

Ill be buying the seat rails in advance.

From the LR dealer I have ordered these with the car:- Snorkel, expedition roof rack, rear ladder, bull bar, tow bar, driving lights.. I think thats all but I might have missed something.

High on my list is fuel tanks and canvas seat covers.


Thanks again guys. Appreciate the direction.

[Leroy_Riding]

Another plug for Mulgo seat rails, best mod on my 90.

as for spotlights, I would spend the money on a 20" LED light bar, much better for most of the driving I do and the spotlights are only good for distance, the LED light bar also makes it a bit easier on your eyes at night aswell.

Fuel capacity is poor but you get used to it, the price on aux tanks is phenomenal and personally I cannot justify that kind of expense, if i had the money to toss around Id get them though.

I wouldn't waste your money on the LR expedition rack. . go get a better lighter rack from Mulgo. . (probably cheaper aswel)

Leroy

[Lagerfan]

I wouldn't waste your money on the LR expedition rack. . go get a better lighter rack from Mulgo. . (probably cheaper aswel)

Have to agree with this. For the same money (less even) you'll score a far superior Hannibal or Patriot rack.

[KarlB]

The only modifications/extras you really need to think seriously about before purchase is what OEM stuff you want included in the purchase: raised air intake, front mudflaps, towbar, etc., though all of these can be added after purchase but unless very soon after, are not covered by your 3 year warranty. After you get the vehicle just use it, and the need for modifications will start to become obvious. To my mind the most important after-purchase modification is to take to seats out of the back. Nobody seriously buys a D90 to carry four people. I have added twin auxiliary fuel tanks, roof rack and so on. You need to be mindful that what one person thinks is important others may consider a waste of money. As has been said many times before, a Defender, off the show room floor, is very capable. You don't need any modifications to just drive it around Australia. What the modifications/extras do is make that easier, safer, more reliable etc. but are not necessary. If you plan to use your vehicle for off-road trialling and similar then you are pushing the vehicle into territory for which it wasn't specifically designed and suspension upgrades and locking differentials are your oyster.

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[JamesB71]

I go into some pretty remote places, but I am not looking to push my vehicle to the limit like some of you guys do. Its also my daily driver so I will be avoiding extreme sport 4wding in general.

All the OEM stuff has been ordered to come with the vehicle to get it out of the way. It should be pretty welll setup when I get it.

Will def want a longer range though. and the seat rails seem an easy decision for someone 6'1.

I will be taking one seat out of the back, but only until next april. When my daughter turns seven, the other one will come out too. I rarely carry more than two people, but the RTA says she has to sit in the back until shes 7.

[Leroy_Riding]

ne seat out of the back, but only until next april. When my daughter turns seven, the other one will come out too. I rarely carry more than two people, but the RTA says she has to sit in the back until shes 7.

I've always wondered what the regulations would be if you build a set of draws then bolted one of the seats back in ontop of thees. . . . that was you get the storage space, plus a spare seat. . . doubt its possible though, but sometimes I do find a 3rd seat would be handy, but not as handy as having the back free fro all my gear. . .

also, cancel your order on the expedition rack. . seriously you will regret it. . take everyones advice and get a rack from Mulgo for less money, better quality, lighter, more aerodynamic and you will still be able to get into carparks. . .

Leroy

[JamesB71]

I just emailed the dealer to see if I can have it swapped for the mulgo one. Any suggestions on what one would be best? Links please!

[JamesB71]

Mulgo doesnt seem to have a rack on their website... or Im losing the plot...

[Lagerfan]

Hi James,

Check out this thread for some recent discussion and great photo's of Cracka's new Hannibal: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/173741-roof-racks-puma-90-a.html

Here's the Mulgo roof rack page: Roof Racks | Buy 4x4 Land Rover Toyota Nissan Accessories and Parts Online Store | Expedition Centre Australia by Mulgo (http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au/online-store/roof-rack-storage/roof-racks/)

We're going for the Hannibal ourselves, just ordered one!

Cheers,
Heinz

[Loubrey]

Front Runner has just launched their Wind Cheetah Slimline 2 series roof racks available from your local Opposite Lock and similar dealer. (model number KRLD007T)

The link is to the South African website as none of the Aussie ones are updated yet.

Slimline II Roof Racks (http://www.frontrunner.co.za/roof-racks/slimline-ii-roof-rack-kits.html)

Cheers,

Lou

[FeatherWeightDriver]

So may things I need!

Need eh?

Are you sure some / most of these are not "wants"?

PS: yes I am being sarcastic. mostly ;)

PPS: I'm probably the worst placed person here to talk about wants and needs as my "5 year plan to do list" of mods list is in a spreadsheet and fills one complete A4 page :eek:

[JamesB71]

Need eh?

Are you sure some / most of these are not "wants"?

PS: yes I am being sarcastic. mostly ;)

PPS: I'm probably the worst placed person here to talk about wants and needs as my "5 year plan to do list" of mods list is in a spreadsheet and fills one complete A4 page :eek:

Ive always had trouble telling the difference between those two...... Im not about to learn now! :twisted:

[sashadidi]

So may things I need!

Thanks for the advice on the bulk head. Im glad not to have to screw around with removing that. Im sure that would have become apparent as soon as I got to have a look at it in the flesh.

Ill be buying the seat rails in advance.

From the LR dealer I have ordered these with the car:- Snorkel, expedition roof rack, rear ladder, bull bar, tow bar, driving lights.. I think thats all but I might have missed something.

High on my list is fuel tanks and canvas seat covers.


Thanks again guys. Appreciate the direction.
Make sure your snorkel as fitted is truly waterproof......

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/174251-puma-snorkel-warning.html

[Blade74]

That's the exact reason I fitted my own as you know exactly how sealed it is and where the drains are and if they're plugged.
You need half a day to fit one if you go slow and do the right thing.
Mine is on a TD5 but I'm sure it's fairly similar.

[carlschmid2002]

Ring Daniel at Mulgo. I bought a Windcheater 2.0 m rack for a lot less than the LR one. I am very happy with it. Consider a safari snorkel as well. The LR RAI is not sealed. You will have to buy a kit off Nugget to do that. It's a personal choice but the LR Bullbar is a bit pricey. i would go ARB or the tubular one I have from Mulgo. I think the tubular bar suits the 90 better. If I bought a 110 I would go ARB. The LR spotties are $1000. As Leroy said, you could get a couple of spotties and a light bar for that.

[FeatherWeightDriver]

Ive always had trouble telling the difference between those two...... I'm not about to learn now! :twisted:

I know the feeling :BigThumb::Rolling:

[MuzzyDelta90]

So far my mods in my Puma 90 have been to remove a rear seat (see my posting today about removing the other one), tow bar and TJB bullbar. The roof has been measured up for a custom roof rack a mate is building for me - I have seen his work before and the roof racks are good. I have decided to go the jerry can route instead of extra fuel tanks - much, much cheaper, especially considering the amount of use they will get.

One mod (if you could call it a modification) that hasn't been mentioned is an extra spare wheel. I am going to Innamincka in Oct with a group of other 4wders and will be getting myself an extra wheel. I am keeping my wheels stock standard so will need to get a quote from the LR Dealer to see how much a rim and/or tyre costs. I think that Devon 4x4 have them for about 80 pounds. Might be cheaper to get it from the UK - do other fellow forumites have info on the extra wheel?
cheers
Andrew

[KarlB]

So far my mods in my Puma 90 have been to remove a rear seat (see my posting today about removing the other one), tow bar and TJB bullbar. The roof has been measured up for a custom roof rack a mate is building for me - I have seen his work before and the roof racks are good. I have decided to go the jerry can route instead of extra fuel tanks - much, much cheaper, especially considering the amount of use they will get.

One mod (if you could call it a modification) that hasn't been mentioned is an extra spare wheel. I am going to Innamincka in Oct with a group of other 4wders and will be getting myself an extra wheel. I am keeping my wheels stock standard so will need to get a quote from the LR Dealer to see how much a rim and/or tyre costs. I think that Devon 4x4 have them for about 80 pounds. Might be cheaper to get it from the UK - do other fellow forumites have info on the extra wheel?
cheers
Andrew
Unless you are heading to Innamincka cross country (ie really off road) where there is a high risk of staking a tyre then you are most unlikely to need an extra spare let alone an extra rim. If you are really worried just take an extra tyre and buy your self some tyrepliers or similar.

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[Blade74]

Where are the spotties going? Roof rack or front bar.
I'd definitely look at a light bar instead of spotties, they're cheaper and brighter.

I bought the following for about $230 delivered and it's been awesome since install:

http://bit.ly/Zkyfjp

20 INCH 120W CREE LED WORK LIGHT BAR 10320LM FLOOD OFFROAD LAMP SECKILL 27W/100W

You can obviously get a size to suit your location.

[JamesB71]

Narva driving lights on the bar, 42 inch light bar on the front of the roof rack.

[chook73]

Consider a safari snorkel as well. The LR RAI is not sealed. You will have to buy a kit off Nugget to do that.

You have to buy a kit off nugget to seal the bit between the RAI and the airbox, it is NOT sealed from factory and which RAI you choose has no bearing on this at all. It is up to the installer of the RAI how or in fact if the RAI is sealed to the vehicle, most installers do NOT seal the RAI or snorkel at all no matter the brand.

My safari was not sealed by the installer (a very well known 4wd brand) and it took just a small bump from the mirror of another vehicle trying to change lanes into me to create a big hole between the panel and the "snorkel"

If you plan to exceed the wading depth at all make sure the entire air system is sealed with Nuggets kit and a properly installed snorkel/RAI.

[Blade74]

Narva driving lights on the bar, 42 inch light bar on the front of the roof rack.

Wow thats not bad if you get all that supplied and installed for a $1000. You are going to light up the bush like the sun with that lighting.
I'm blown away by the 20 inch bar I have on the front of mine. Apparently 10000 lumens.
I can't wait to test it out in the bush and see how we'll it works.

I have to admit I'm a little addicted to modding my 90 at the moment but the bank account doesn't like me. Have to stop soon and make a list to work through slowly.

[Blade74]

Here's a 40" single row Cree light bar that would be pretty good.

http://bit.ly/YBRAOo

[Blade74]

I put some little spotlights under my rear bar and are currently connected to my reversing lights. But I'm going to put them on a separate switch soon. They fit so well in between the mudflat and rear tow bar.

http://bit.ly/10OoGdE

Great for reversing up in the bush... Or even just setting up a tent and not having to switch on your massive 40" light bar that probably draws 20 amps.

[3 Lions]

James, Here are the pics of my seat rails, Homemade jobbies.....

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee360/colslife/IMG_2305_zpse7252dc0.jpg (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/colslife/media/IMG_2305_zpse7252dc0.jpg.html)



http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee360/colslife/IMG_2312_zps89622a22.jpg (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/colslife/media/IMG_2312_zps89622a22.jpg.html)

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee360/colslife/IMG_2324_zpsc4d74a3e.jpg (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/colslife/media/IMG_2324_zpsc4d74a3e.jpg.html)

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee360/colslife/IMG_2376_zpsb4d922aa.jpg (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/colslife/media/IMG_2376_zpsb4d922aa.jpg.html)

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee360/colslife/IMG_2378_zpsbbc9f9c6.jpg (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/colslife/media/IMG_2378_zpsbbc9f9c6.jpg.html)

http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee360/colslife/IMG_2379_zpsc6248516.jpg (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/colslife/media/IMG_2379_zpsc6248516.jpg.html)


As I mentioned before, didn't cost me bugger all, had scrap metal in garage, just my time.:)

Col.

[JamesB71]

Great Job, and very neat. Good stuff.

[carlschmid2002]

I just thought of probably the most cost saving mod I have done to my D90. You need to replace the catches for both front doors. Trust me on this. The standard ones catch your trousers and rip the back out of them. You only need to save one good pair of duds and they have paid for themselves. TimNZ did a group buy. I am not sure where he got them from.http://www.paddockspares.com/blog/coming-soon-x-trouser/

[Loubrey]

The company is called X-Eng and they post internationally.

X-Engineering X-Trouser (http://www.x-eng.co.uk/StoreDisplay.asp?SL=81)

They also make lots of interesting things for Defenders including the disc brake conversion for your hand brake.

X-Engineering Defender (http://www.x-eng.co.uk/StoreDisplay.asp?SL=39)

They also do what's possibly the most cost effective split charge system called imaginatively the "X-Charge"

X-Engineering X-Charge (http://www.x-eng.co.uk/StoreDisplay.asp?SL=9&MID=4)

Cheers,

Lou

[JamesB71]

The list..... it grows!


Its Alive!!!!!!

[FeatherWeightDriver]

^^^ That's why I have a spreadsheet... ;)

Last time I went x-trousers I got charged for indecent exposure :wasntme:

[GlennWA]

Congratulations firstly.

I am of the school of thought to keep the mods to a minimum and drive for a while to really appreciate what you need. I am 6ft and have no requirement for the mulgo rails and am pretty happy straight off the factory floor. I added an Anderson plug to the rear for air compressor and fridge and a wind cheetah roof rack. Thats about it.

I have a 110 so am looking a some rear corner protection, possibly a bullbar, and more of a want than need some torsen lsds front and rear.


Enjoy your new ride!

[Loubrey]

Congratulations firstly.

I am of the school of thought to keep the mods to a minimum and drive for a while to really appreciate what you need. I am 6ft and have no requirement for the mulgo rails and am pretty happy straight off the factory floor. I added an Anderson plug to the rear for air compressor and fridge and a wind cheetah roof rack. Thats about it.

I have a 110 so am looking a some rear corner protection, possibly a bullbar, and more of a want than need some torsen lsds front and rear.


Enjoy your new ride!

Glenn,

I'm with you on the "Try standard before you buy concept". People tend to upgrade and change for the sake of just to find the mod doesn't really suit their application.

The seating is really personal preference. I drove 90's for near on 12 years in the standard seating position (and I was happy doing so) until I tried the driving position in a mate's car with the rails fitted and I loved it.

BTW I can recommend the Terrafirma corner bumperettes if you are looking. Bit of a pain to fit on the 90, but the 110 is absolutely straight forward and the diagonal strips following the aluminium down gives excellent protection. Link on what they look like, but I got mine from Devon 4x4 in the UK.

Terrafirma TF571 Heavy Duty Rear Corner Bumper for Land Rover Defender 110 (http://shop.challenger4x4.com/terrafirma-tf571-heavy-duty-rear-corner-bumper-for-land-rover-defender-110-1067-p.asp)

Cheers,

Lou

[Pickles2]

G'Day Lou.
Mate, what is the problem in fitting these to a "90", as I note that Terrafirma do make a specific item for the "90". Ours will be fitted with the chequerplate corners & I was actually wondering whether this would be an issue?
Regards, Pickles.

[clubagreenie]

I'd be worried about where I was touching it...

[Loubrey]

G'Day Lou.
Mate, what is the problem in fitting these to a "90", as I note that Terrafirma do make a specific item for the "90". Ours will be fitted with the chequerplate corners & I was actually wondering whether this would be an issue?
Regards, Pickles.

Hi Pickles,

They are very well made and specific for the 90, but with one big issue for me at least.

They are not compatible with the 90's mud flap brackets. You'll note that all pictures on websites showing the Terrafirma bumperettes on a 90 is without the mud flaps. This is not the case on a 110 as the mud flap is weel forward from the cross member.

I posted a tread on the modification I made to the mud flap bracket and how it interfaces with my bumperettes (see the cut away on the bracket on the third photograph). The modification received mixed response from the forum, but it works fine for me.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/175664-melting-mudflap-2.html

The checker plate corners won't affect it as its mounted to the cross member and comes round the corner about 20mm from the bodywork. Lots of space for the checker plate...

Cheers,

Lou

[Pickles2]

More good info..Ya'd reckon Terrafirma would allow for this?
Cheers,Pickles.

[JamesB71]

Damnit....the delivery of my 90 has been pushed back from September to November... it was ordered in June... FFS... Im crap at patience.

[Pickles2]

Damnit....the delivery of my 90 has been pushed back from September to November... it was ordered in June... FFS... Im crap at patience.
Why is that I wonder..any reason?
We ordered ours in June, (early June) & were always told 5 months...ie Nov/Dec?!
Cheers, Pickles.

[JamesB71]

"Production Delays".

[KarlB]

It will be worth the wait. Hang in there. My 2010 D90 is just wonderful.

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[JamesB71]

Ive just got a really bad feeling about the behaviour of the dealers. They never told me there would be a delay. I rang to see if they were still on schedule for Sept and they had "forgotten to tell me"....

This is only the second dealing I have had with the dealer and they have let me down both times. Im impressed with the vehicle, but really worried about future dealings if the dealers are so bad.

[Blade74]

When I ordered my Disco 4 it took 6 months.

But well worth the wait for the car you want.

If I bought another car from the dealer I would be a lot more careful about documenting dates and times and who I spoke to. As you start to get servicing done its a good habit.
I had issues with paint on my brand new Disco 4 that took three repairs to fix.
In all seriousness my father has a Hyundai and he gets better service than I got at a land rover dealer on A $90k car.
At Hyundai they don't f$& around and just replace whole parts no questions...
But in saying that I love Land rovers and would definitely buy another one. Just would be more careful about documenting stuff.

[Pickles2]

I've heard that about Hyundai....No mucking about.."Just Fix It"....a friend of mine has a Hyundai SUV....had an intermittant problem with the cruise....Hyundai couldn't replicate it......so they simply replaced the main cruise control control module.....problem fixed.
Cheers, Pickles.

[JamesB71]

This from the dealer after I chased it up. I'm glad I did. I was planning to sell of the hilux in prep for the 90s arrival in September.

"They cut Aus. Defender 90 production by 80% in July and August, (5 units total) this is the reason it has slotted in September. You are right there is little we can do. I only got official confirmation just under 2 weeks ago."

Might have been nice if they told me. This is how they treat me before they have my money....

[JamesB71]

I'm beginning to think I would have been better off with one of those perenties from the auction.... I'm yet to hear of a good outcome from anyone who has dealt with a dealer.

[Blade74]

I think you just have to stay on top of them and not rely on them ever being too pro active.
And don't expect the service you think you deserve because it never happened through my experiences.
And don't ever feel bad if you have a problem and have to harass them a bit to make things happen.

[BilboBoggles]

It might be worth checking other dealers in Aus to see if any have that vehicle in stock. You might get lucky and find that one of them has it in stock and is willing to beat the price you got from your local dealer.

Just remember though - once you have your vehicle the sales side of things will be forgotten and you won't care. What is much much more important is to find a dealer with a good service department. I've worked through every dealer on this side of Melbourne and had significantly bad experiences with 2 of them. Luckily the service department on the third and last one I tried has been truly outstanding so far.

Unfortunately you can't link the quality of the sales team to the service team, they are often unrelated and driving to different targets. The best sales team I worked with - had an awful service department manager.

[clubagreenie]

A call to England?

[cooperrat]

been told by "my dealer" mine is on a boat ,but he cant say when its gonna get here, seems a bit odd that Landrover dont seem to know where there cars are going and when they'll get there....

[JamesB71]

I just came to an understanding with the dealer on one in a different colour..... should have it in two weeks. ;-)

[Sandgroper]

I bought mine through Southern Landrover here in Perth and I'm very happy with the service they've provided so far, they've been really good, follow up phone calls to see how the landies going etc.....at least when you do finally get it I know you'll love it, they're great!

[Cracka]

been told by "my dealer" mine is on a boat ,but he cant say when its gonna get here, seems a bit odd that Landrover dont seem to know where there cars are going and when they'll get there....

I'd be pushing for more info about that.

A mate of mine has an evoque coming and has been tracking it since it left the mother land. They have got the ships name, dates into Aus and when it will be delivered. Mind you this is their second one, the first was meant to have black seats with red stitching, they got to the dealer who unveiled it in the showroom only to find the entire seats and door panel infills were red, not just the stitching.........WTF............somebody made a typo on the order. Needless to say the red seated one is now sitting on the dealers lot.

They also had the details and tracked the first one.

[Pickles2]

To Me, as one "expecting" a LandRover, this is all very interesting...I shall be "Ghosting" my Dealer as a consequence, for accurate production/ updated build/shipping details.
Cheers, Pickles.

[gconran]

Southern Landrover have a number of new ones in stock at the moment on the floor. Some nice accessories on a couple of them as well.

[JamesB71]

:censored:Its not even straight forward when you buy one off the showroom floor!

[BigBlueOne]

I feel sorry for you guys having to wait. Mine was as simple as seeing it in the dealers yard, taking it for a spin, saying i want it and then collecting it 3 days later. Once you have it though you will forget about all the annoyance of waiting and the smile won't come off your face!

[dawsey]

I feel sorry for you guys having to wait. Mine was as simple as seeing it in the dealers yard, taking it for a spin, saying i want it and then collecting it 3 days later. Once you have it though you will forget about all the annoyance of waiting and the smile won't come off your face!

have to agree there .waited just under 6 months for mine had it for another 6 months now..Cant even remember the wait now..sure did at the time though..you will get it then hopefully all is forgiven..

[JamesB71]

Yeah... its just frustrating when you dont know when they are being straight with you. I would just prefer them to come clean and not feel like I am being worked.

[mfc]

start with the seet rails .then bulbar and better lighting....add on what you need as you need it. they realy dont need a lot to be a great car out of the box.
when you cant go where you want to then add on.
{good tires even if standard size....not shure whats on the new 90's}

[Loubrey]

That's a load of nonsense about not knowing where it is or how long it will take to arrive...

Back in 2010 when I ordered my car I had a very proactive young sales lady who actually placed the order on the day I signed the papers and got me a firm "build commencement date" before I left the show room. I got weekly updates on my built, completion, transport to the shipping yard, ship's progress, arrival in Australia and a firm delivery date 10 days later.

It sounds like its just another case of people wanting to earn their sales commission without any actual sales customer service...

[JamesB71]

Ok place your bets.

Im supposed to pick it up next friday!

Will something go wrong between now and then? Will the bullbar not turn up? Or the winch? Or the snorkel? Will the guy who is supposed to have the key be off crook? Will the apprentice who took it home last night forget how to wind the clock back to hide it?

All these questions and more will be answered in a week and a day....

I must be getting jaded. I just always assume things will screw up....

[Pickles2]

Ok place your bets.

Im supposed to pick it up next friday!

Will something go wrong between now and then? Will the bullbar not turn up? Or the winch? Or the snorkel? Will the guy who is supposed to have the key be off crook? Will the apprentice who took it home last night forget how to wind the clock back to hide it?

All these questions and more will be answered in a week and a day....

I must be getting jaded. I just always assume things will screw up....
You are a lucky man....we have "only" another 3 months to wait for ours.
Pics from you will be required immediately upon pick up.
Cheers, Pickles.

[JamesB71]

Will do. :-)

[Larry]

Ok place your bets.

Im supposed to pick it up next friday!

Will something go wrong between now and then? Will the bullbar not turn up? Or the winch? Or the snorkel? Will the guy who is supposed to have the key be off crook? Will the apprentice who took it home last night forget how to wind the clock back to hide it?

All these questions and more will be answered in a week and a day....

I must be getting jaded. I just always assume things will screw up....

If you expect the worst, you'll be pleasantly surprised when things go right!:p

[BilboBoggles]

Will they drop the winch onto the wing when its being fitted.. the dealer did on mine, added a week to the delivery waiting for that to be repaired. just saying..:eek:

[JamesB71]

Thats the sort of thing that seems to always happen to me....

[clubagreenie]

Land Rovers don't have wings. They are horizontal tea stabilisation surfaces.

[JamesB71]

Yep... I was right. They have ****ed up the order for the winch and a few other things. Delivery date now possibly the 16th.... Maybe.

I'm very tempted to cancel the order based just on their pathetic organisational skills and meaningless promises.

Right ****ed off.

*that might have been a bit harsh. Gotta stop venting online!*

[Pickles2]

James..What an anti-climax.....tell ya one thing though....ya won't be cancelling the order....'cause it's all gonna be water under the bridge.....when you take delivery.
Cheers, Pickles.

[JamesB71]

It's not so much the fact that I'm trying to organise travel from Kat to pick it up, but more the fact that if this is indicative of their practice I'm not sure I want to be tied to them for a long time.

[clubagreenie]

If you need a mid week ride to pick it up I can help out there, of course there might be an argument about who's driving the 90 back.

[JamesB71]

If you need a mid week ride to pick it up I can help out there, of course there might be an argument about who's driving the 90 back.

That's very generous, thank you. Unfortunately they can't seem to get the week right let alone the day!

[clubagreenie]

We can just go and take one.

[Larry]

It's not so much the fact that I'm trying to organise travel from Katoomba to Newcastle to pick it up, but more the fact that if this is indicative of their practice I'm not sure I want to be tied to them for a long time.

Once you have the 90 you don't have to deal with them ever again.:mad:
Servicing can be done by any qualified mechanic, & warranty claims can go through any Land Rover dealer.;)

Interestingly the original owner of my 90 bought through the dealer in Newcastle & had only good things to say about them. Maybe it comes down to the individual sales person.:(

[bemm52]

Interesting reading all this........... when I was enquiring about buying a 90 after seeing what seemed a reasonable price in newspaper ad's I shuffled off to a dealer in Parramatta and got some brochure's.
After test driving a second hand MY 09 90 I decided on a new one.
The sales bloke had one in the yard but it was white and I wanted red (they go faster)
Getting to the point he was able to get on the computer and tell me what was available at the time........then it was just a matter of getting it floated to the yard for my pickup.........no stress......

Cheers Paul

[Pickles2]

Interesting reading all this........... when I was enquiring about buying a 90 after seeing what seemed a reasonable price in newspaper ad's I shuffled off to a dealer in Parramatta and got some brochure's.
After test driving a second hand MY 09 90 I decided on a new one.
The sales bloke had one in the yard but it was white and I wanted red (they go faster)
Getting to the point he was able to get on the computer and tell me what was available at the time........then it was just a matter of getting it floated to the yard for my pickup.........no stress......

Cheers Paul
So, You've got it?
It's going well, any problems?
Cheers, Pickles.

[JamesB71]

It's more that a lot of individual things that have give wrong. It's really not the dealers fault I Spose. His sub contractors and suppliers let him down and he's the poor bugger who has to tell me. It's entirely probable mines just a case of all the holes in the Swiss cheese lining up.

[Blade74]

Hang in there James. A week or two will go by quick. Once you have it you will soon forget you had to wait.
Your obviously very excited and pumped to get the car.
I do remember the torture of when I had to wait 6 months to get my Discovery 4 when I ordered it.

[bemm52]

So, You've got it?
It's going well, any problems?
Cheers, Pickles.

Very happy with it...........it is after all a new car, sometimes forums only dwell on the disasters worried me a bit at pickup time.
only problem was when SWMBO forgot to close the sun roof and it rained.
Seriously the only complaint is the air intake and heater box do not marry up correctly on my vehicle you can put your hand thru foam seal where it connects...........will see what the dealer has to say next service but its hardly major

James you gonna love your car.

[rutmutt]

Hey James.

I bought my new 110 two weeks ago from the dealer you have ordered yours from. In fact I saw it sitting in the showroom last week and asked about it. was told waiting on a winch to arrive and be fitted but it was behind schedule. I bought the black 110 that was in stock and picked it up 10 days later with accessories fitted and some damage to the paint on the roof completely fixed.

I had a snorkel come off my defender last week (hence the reason i was back at the dealer) and they just happened to have one laying around, which they re-fitted under warranty while i waitied.

I have had nothing but positive interactions with this dealer (Dale in particular) as of the moment but haven't taken it for it's 1st service yet either. He seems genuinely interested and keen to help even after they've taken your money.

Hope you get your car soon!

[cooperrat]

hey James , have you got the beast yet ?

[JamesB71]

Nope. It was supposed to be today, but they screwed up the appointment with opposite lock for the winch, then it was supposed to be tomorrow, but I just got an email saying when the guy turned up to put the driving lights on (which has to be pushed back a week because they ****ed up the winch order) the vehicle was off site, so he left and wont be back until tomorrow. Delivery? Maybe next week....maybe....

Now I get to go back to my boss and tell him I have to move the scheduled day off again (I think this is the 6th change of delivery date) and so does the woman who was going to drive me up there.... Its a few hours drive to the dealer so its not just nipping into town when its ready...

Well past ****ed off now and have pretty much put it out of my mind. It will probably turn up one day, but I am not excited by its arrival like I was for the first 5 or so dates I was supposed to have a new car. Now its just a constant annoying nagging feeling.

This is my first "new" car and it will defnitely be my last. Its pretty much ruined it for me.

[cooperrat]

Bugga.......Sure you'll get over it James. I was told 3 months but its now 5. Im tracking the boat its on, latest is Brisbane tonight at 11......still waiting,waiting ,waiting ..This"ll be my last new car too, so it better be good. Actually I know it will I loved the 110 I had a few years back,even tho it wasnt a newby when i bought it.I guess you have to take heart from all the comments that have said you might be p....d off now but it will all be forgotten when you drive it away...catchya

[Pickles2]

Why was the vehicle "off site"?
Hang in there mate.....By the time we get ours (hopefully 3 months), you'll have forgotten all of this, you'll have done a few thousand Ks, & will have a continual smile on your face.
Cheers, Pickles.

[JamesB71]

It was off getting some sort of paint treatment...

[ericvv]

It was off getting some sort of paint treatment...

Better dig into the details of why they had to do this.
As to mods and additions, before anything else, now that the vehicle will be sparkling new still, take care of rust prevention.
1. Get it fully Dinitrolled, or if that is not available down there, use another reputable anti rust treatment.
2. Order a full set of SS nuts and bolts for your model and replace all existing ones by those. Nakatanenga are a good supplier of this, probably there will be a distributor in Australia who carries those.
3. Replace the standard headlamp bezels by SS versions, probably available also down there, if not, you can order those from the likes of Mobilecentre and 4x4 overlander in UK, Nakatanenga or Entreq in Germany.

By doing this, you make a good start at keeping the truck up to snuff for the long run.

Thereafter come other mods....:D

[Defender Mike]

ARB winch bar, Vision LED spots absolutely awsomme, Front Runner through Mulgo twin long range tanks withMulgo single side filler set up, Front runner roof rack, feather lite roof top tent and awning, Front runner gas bottle holder ,Front runner cuddy box under centre console, Custom removable Dual battery system with Fangpusen solar regulator and fold up 108 watt solar panel. built in High speed tyre pump. Trailblazer 60 litre fridge custom fit out in the rear with 6 Gumbo style boxes. cargo barrier net .Landrover Special vehicle stickers , Expedisonist rear sticker LOL

Still to come CDI on the go tyre pressure changer , difflocks , winch, better shocks and springs, Computer remapp to JAG specs , Decent GPS with hema mapps. Mud tyres .:)
Mike

[Cracka]

Defender Mike,

Not to de-rail this thread, but do you have any photo's of the fit out of the rear of your 90 you could post or have posted. I have scoured the forum for storage threads over the past week but I don't remember seeing it.

Did you use the Gomo boxes 440mm x 320mm?

I'm just in the planning stage with my 90 at the moment but not sure which way to go.

Any pics would be appreciated.

Mick

[rutmutt]

Back on topic... I just took Delivery of a new 110 2 weeks ago and this is what I've done.

On my 110 or in the garage awaiting installation

LR Sidestep
LR Winch Bar
LR snorkel
Replaced the PIAA (LR) Headlights with IPF Extremes that were laying around the shed.
Terrafirma Bumperettes. (supplied by Modern Motors, Dungog)
Mommouth chequer Wing tops (supplied by Modern Motors, Dungog)
Mud UK collapsible door Handles (supplied by Modern Motors, Dungog)

on order.
Drifta Rear Drawer (supplied by Drifta Kitchens, Gloucester)
Hayman Reece Towbar (supplied by Opposite Lock, Newcastle)
Redarc Dual Battery System (supplied by Opposite Lock, Newcastle)
Redarc Electric Trailer Brake (supplied by Opposite Lock, Newcastle)
Mulgo Seat rails (supplied by expeditioncentre.com.au)
Mulgo Ex-box (supplied by expeditioncentre.com.au)
Mulgo Door Adjustments (supplied by expeditioncentre.com.au)

and the wishlist never stops.......

[Cracka]

Defender Mike,

Not to de-rail this thread, but do you have any photo's of the fit out of the rear of your 90 you could post or have posted. I have scoured the forum for storage threads over the past week but I don't remember seeing it.

Did you use the Gomo boxes 440mm x 320mm?

I'm just in the planning stage with my 90 at the moment but not sure which way to go.

Any pics would be appreciated.

Mick


Disregard Mike, just realised which thread it was, doh........

[clubagreenie]

Better dig into the details of why they had to do this.
As to mods and additions, before anything else, now that the vehicle will be sparkling new still, take care of rust prevention.
1. Get it fully Dinitrolled, or if that is not available down there, use another reputable anti rust treatment.
2. Order a full set of SS nuts and bolts for your model and replace all existing ones by those. Nakatanenga are a good supplier of this, probably there will be a distributor in Australia who carries those.
3. Replace the standard headlamp bezels by SS versions, probably available also down there, if not, you can order those from the likes of Mobilecentre and 4x4 overlander in UK, Nakatanenga or Entreq in Germany.

By doing this, you make a good start at keeping the truck up to snuff for the long run.

Thereafter come other mods....:D

Eric,

We don't have the snow & ice issues seen in your neck of the woods and so don't have quite the same need for rust prevention as you would. Plus fish oil down the chassis from a schlitz gun is a method suited here.

[ericvv]

Eric,

We don't have the snow & ice issues seen in your neck of the woods and so don't have quite the same need for rust prevention as you would. Plus fish oil down the chassis from a schlitz gun is a method suited here.

Fish oil...:eek2:
Wow, unless it is desodorised it should also keep the thieving scum away from your trucks for a while I guess:coplight:

[voltron]

I was at the Dealership today when you picked up the 90 mate. Only saw you as you were driving out as I was in the service center.

Looks pretty awesome. How was the trip home?

[JamesB71]

Great mate. Really surprised at the engine. Far quicker and quieter than I expected. Took about 10 mins to get used to driving it. Initially kept grabbing 3rd when I was looking for 1st, but soon sorted that.

[Pickles2]

C'Mon James....after all this time....pics of you & the "90"??
Have you done a thousand ks yet?!!!
Forgotten all your "issues" now?
Happy Defendering, Pickles.

[Blade74]

Hey James,

Congrats mate. The day has finally come.
I bet your going for a few drives this weekend.
Show us some pictures.

[cooperrat]

pics or it didnt happen......Enjoy

[bemm52]

I drove mine out of the dealers with the diff locked in high range:eek:

Had been playing with the transfer lever before I took off.

Couldn't work out why steering was so heavy till I noticed dash icon:o

Had to pull over and read hand book to rectify the situation

Enjoy your new car.

[JamesB71]

They forgot to give me the handbook, so I've been trying to work things out on my own. Worked out the light adjustment knob that adjusts the headlight position, but still stumped on the one to the right of the rear window washer button.

[Cracka]

They forgot to give me the handbook, so I've been trying to work things out on my own. Worked out the light adjustment knob that adjusts the headlight position, but still stumped on the one to the right of the rear window washer button.

Rear fog light, right hand side rear red, left side same position is the reversing light.

[bemm52]

This might help

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/773.jpg img121 (Medium).jpg (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=64339&stc=1&d=1376727339)

Cheers Paul

[JamesB71]

Thanks guys! That's great.

[dawsey]

Thanks guys! That's great.

only works when the head light are turned on..

[justinc]

Hey James, Would like to hear more of your music, those clips on your website are difficult to hear, are there any other sources at present?
TasD90 on here is a guitarist, and teacher too....and another Def owner :)

You guys had better be careful; hearing loss from driving a 110 won't do your music careers any favours :p

Love accoustic Blues:)

JC

[clubagreenie]

only works when the head light are turned on..

First he has it coming, then he has to turn it on.

Am I still on AULRO?

[JamesB71]

Yeah Justin, those clips are terrible. Im recording a CD at the moment.

Even better is a campfire and some port. :-)

[Lagerfan]

Hi James, congrats on the new 90, if you love it half as much as we love ours you are really in for a treat!

Temp solution to your handbook problem for you... go here: TOPIx - TOPIx (http://www.landrovertechinfo.com) and create yourself a login, enter your VIN and you'll get access to the online versions of the handbook and quickstart guide. For a few euro you can also get the workshop manual I believe - haven't tried that yet.

Enjoy!

[voltron]

Just fitted my seat extension rails mate. Makes a world of difference. Just need to change the steering wheel now and it will be perfect. Get onto it if you haven't already.

[JamesB71]

Way ahead of you. Seat rails were put in on the first day. (I ordered them in advance).

Steering wheel? Is the standard one no good?

I just ordered some leather door handles to replace the plastic ones that dig into your leg.

[JamesB71]

Oh.... just did some research and learned that a smaller wheel will give me some more much needed elbow room. Im 6'1 and 110kgs so all the room I can get is welcome.

Im going to order a 14 inch one from the UK next payday..... :D

[clubagreenie]

Disclaimer: Only for information and it's personal choice, especially not having experienced a new defender wheel.

There is a limit on the amount of size change that you can make top a steering wheel. Never seen it picked up at an inspection but it is a defectable thing.

[andy_d110]

What would you consider your first ports of call in regards to mods and accessories?

What do you consider absolutely necessary, and what have you done that has given you the most joy?

First up I am considering the bulkhead mod and seat rail extensions for extra foot room. Im 6'1 so figure that will be vital.

What would be on your list?

James.


Roadside assistance cover.

[Blade74]

So I guess that means he should make sure he keeps the original steering wheel for inspections just in case ;-)

[voltron]

I thought all new Defenders came with free roadside assistance for period of warranty??

[JamesB71]

Way ahead of you there with regard to roadside assist. Havent needed it yet, but its only been 6 days....