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worane
2nd July 2013, 09:26 PM
When I did my oil change last time,I bought my new filters from a local factor.
I have a 1999 TD5 and the new centrifugal filter made a fair bit of noise spinning down when the engine was turned off. At least I knew the thing was spinning! (But what was it wearing out)
The young mechanic at the local L/R service place told me something that surprised me when I bought a real OEM filter from him. He stated that the centrifugal filter should be changed every 10,000 Kms. and the spin on oil filter every 60,000 Kms.
Is this correct? I thought it was somewhat the other way around. Your comments welcome.( I run synthetic oil.)
Slunnie
2nd July 2013, 09:54 PM
I think the centrifuge is regular, but I'm not sure if the full flow is 60,000 though. To be honest, I do both every 10k because they are both cheap and it gives me peace of mind. That said, I think the centrifuge filters out to a level that the full flow could only dream of, so the full flow probably only catches anomalies anyway.
Disco Muppet
2nd July 2013, 10:00 PM
60k :eek:
I do both of mine between 10-12, same as air filters.
d2dave
3rd July 2013, 08:08 AM
As Slunnie said, filters are cheap. Having not had my D2 for that long I have only done mine once(both filters) but I will be doing both every 10K.
Apart from being cheap, they are also easy to get at.
numpty
3rd July 2013, 09:46 AM
I think it's the other way around ie full flow at 10 and centrifugal at 20.
I also change both of mine at 10 though.
Slunnie
3rd July 2013, 10:10 AM
I've just checked the service guide. It's centrifuge every 20,000km and full flow every 60,000km under what Land Rover determine as "normal" conditions.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/discovery-2/21718d1263595373-service-requirements-160000ks-mclt010x.pdf
Hay Ewe
3rd July 2013, 12:10 PM
Every 10,000KM or so done here - and both of them too
oil and filters are cheap
Hay Ewe
Xtreme
3rd July 2013, 12:58 PM
When I got my first Td5 I was also confused by the recommended oil filter change intervals. So I cut my first centrifuge filter open after 10,000kms and discovered there was a thin very fine paste like build up around the outside of the housing with heaps of room for further deposits/buildup. The second centrifuge was left in for 20,000kms before being cut open and examined with result being similar to the first one - buildup was probably 2mm thick so still plenty of room for further buildup.
As a result of these investigations I now change the centrifuge every 30k and the full flow every 10k.
Defender has now done 175k and D2 has 215k with no known ill effects.
worane
3rd July 2013, 07:27 PM
I don't think $160.00 an oil change is all that cheap every 10K.!
Slunnie
3rd July 2013, 07:38 PM
Air, centrifuge and full flow is about 60 total.
numpty
4th July 2013, 10:41 AM
Air, centrifuge and full flow is about 60 total.
Plus oil at around $60 to $70 for 5 litres, so probably close to $160 ;)
Slunnie
4th July 2013, 10:58 AM
Plus oil at around $60 to $70 for 5 litres, so probably close to $160 ;)
True. I use 1.5 bottes of oil per service which brings it to about your $160 with oil and filters (excluding fuel filter)
Tombie
4th July 2013, 11:06 AM
Testing has shown my oil is fine up to 20k
So I do a complete change at 20.
Filters and oil.
Ongoing testing confirms no issues so will be sticking to that...
Waste not, want not!
However, that vehicle does not tow so it's use isn't as strenuous as some, which may need changes at 15 or less.
worane
4th July 2013, 12:21 PM
When I bought the td5 last year i ordered 20 lts of the synthetic oil as recommended by Hunter & Cuthill here in Geelong.
I was surprised to find it cost $299.00 for the 20 lts =$14.99 per ltr.Not so bad when you look at it like that.
As 7.5 lts x 20, is not divisible by three I need some more for my next oil change.
Does anyone know what the name of this Land Rover friendly is?
worane
4th July 2013, 12:46 PM
I was charged $78.00 just for the two oil filters
OffTrack
4th July 2013, 01:33 PM
Testing has shown my oil is fine up to 20k
So I do a complete change at 20.
Filters and oil.
Ongoing testing confirms no issues so will be sticking to that...
Waste not, want not!
However, that vehicle does not tow so it's use isn't as strenuous as some, which may need changes at 15 or less.
The last revision of the LR service schedule has a range of arduous conditions listed on the back which warrant 10,000km oil changes:
- repeated short distance driving: trips under 8km, stop/start driving
- driving in dusty/sandy conditions
- extended periods of driving in hot conditions (above 35°C)
- towing or driving in mountainous conditions
Most of my day to day driving falls foul of the first, so I feel 10,000km is reasonable.
There is also an oil change interval of 400hrs if you spend more than 50% of the time idling or driving below 16kph.
cheers
Paul
OffTrack
4th July 2013, 01:36 PM
I was charged $78.00 just for the two oil filters
Not too bad if they are genuine. Just priced up genuine parts (two oil filters) shipped from the UK and these would come to $63 at current exchange rates.
Disco Muppet
4th July 2013, 01:46 PM
Not too bad if they are genuine. Just priced up genuine parts (two oil filters) shipped from the UK and these would come to $63 at current exchange rates.
Ahem.
Both of my oil filters are sourced from the local stealers, definitely genuine, got them both for $45 ;)
OffTrack
4th July 2013, 02:07 PM
I was just in at British Car components picking up an air filter ($23 for genuine) but forgot to check on the price of oil filters.... $45 is pretty good.
I'd checked prices on a certain central Victorian online seller forgetting they are usually my benchmark for most expensive local parts. Their prices are $40 for a Mahle centrifugal filter and $25 for genuine full flow. As a point of comparison they list the genuine air filter at $39.60 inc gst.
Disco Muppet
4th July 2013, 03:08 PM
both oil filters, air filter, and 5 sump plug washers total came to roughly $70 give or take.
Slunnie
4th July 2013, 05:55 PM
both oil filters, air filter, and 5 sump plug washers total came to roughly $70 give or take.
Comes out around the same in Sydney at Trivetts parts also.
Fraz
5th July 2013, 01:29 AM
All Fourx4 in Kotara sell a kit for $65
Both oil filters
Fuel filter
Air filter
washer
and a small bottle of injector cleaner
They are on eBay and also have same day postage. Pretty good!
(not affiliated)
Hay Ewe
5th July 2013, 07:53 AM
I have shopped around here in Cairns, SuperCheap, AutoBarn, Repco and Land Rover.
Land Rover genuine parts are usually the cheapest and always on the shelf. Where they are not the cheapest, its only by a few $ and they have them instock - which is what I want.
Hay Ewe
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