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jx2mad
4th July 2013, 09:51 PM
I have just installed Hema maps on my Ipad and the system works fine. However I want clarification as to whether the maps move if I go off thew map on screen, or are these maps static and you have to move them manually? Jim

Eevo
4th July 2013, 11:38 PM
mine is static and have to move manually.

not a big deal, move i once every 3 hours or so

iClick
5th July 2013, 12:14 AM
I'm currently touring outback NSW and the maps are doing a great job of keeping up with the vehicle. No need to touch the device. This is the first trip using the ipad mini and the Hema maps app and its been great so far. We're still on the blacktop but will hopefully see what it's like for off road navigation soon.

My only critism so far is that it doesn't record tracks in the background so when you switch apps you loose that segments data. This hasn't been an issue yet but might be annoying soon when I'd like to have complete GPX files of our travels. If anyone has a solution to this I'd love to her it :)

Reads90
5th July 2013, 05:25 AM
I have just installed Hema maps on my Ipad and the system works fine. However I want clarification as to whether the maps move if I go off thew map on screen, or are these maps static and you have to move them manually? Jim

I bought the Hema app the other day and went for a play and the dot stays in the Center of the screen the whole day.
So I don't have the move the map.

OffTrack
5th July 2013, 05:53 AM
I'm currently touring outback NSW and the maps are doing a great job of keeping up with the vehicle. No need to touch the device. This is the first trip using the ipad mini and the Hema maps app and its been great so far. We're still on the blacktop but will hopefully see what it's like for off road navigation soon.

My only critism so far is that it doesn't record tracks in the background so when you switch apps you loose that segments data. This hasn't been an issue yet but might be annoying soon when I'd like to have complete GPX files of our travels. If anyone has a solution to this I'd love to her it :)

In the GPS settings (gear icon on Memory-Map which is essentially the same thing) the first option is "Record track while app is backgrounded". It's off by default, so you just need to turn on.

cheers
Paul

OffTrack
5th July 2013, 06:01 AM
To the original poster - do you remember if you clicked "allow" when asked if the Hema App could use your current location? If you click "no" the app cannot use location services so can't access the GPS position. If the position indicator is grey the app doesn't have a gps lock - it turns red when the app has a valid gps signal.

If you are running IOS6 you need to go into the iPad Settings app, then Privacy > Location Services then check the setting for the Hema app is "On".

Add: The other thing to be aware of is that once you move the map manually the app will stop tracking the current position. To re-enable you need to tap the "cross hair" icon in the tool bar. This should recentre the map on your current location and the app will keep your the current position at the centre of the screen until you manual move it.

william mcallan
5th July 2013, 03:14 PM
I also have Hema, however I find TomTom much more useful, especially when in a new town and need to find a certain place

iClick
5th July 2013, 08:51 PM
In the GPS settings (gear icon on Memory-Map which is essentially the same thing) the first option is "Record track while app is backgrounded". It's off by default, so you just need to turn on.

cheers
Paul

Thanks for the tip, found it buried in the options.

Yorkie
6th July 2013, 06:50 AM
I have being using it on the iPhone and iPad. iPhone in a windscreen mount for on the move duties tracking, iPad for researching next days route or for wife and kids to see where we are, very happy. :)

gasman
6th July 2013, 07:59 AM
My wife has the non-wirless iPad, so does this mean I can still download the app and but access manually?
I mean does it allow me to choose any map, just like if I was using paper maps?
Thanks

jx2mad
6th July 2013, 10:11 AM
Hi Gasman. My ipad is non wireless and it has a gps module built in. I am not sure if this is the case in all models. Download the free app and try it first. If it works then go for the Hema if you wish. Jim

Westie
6th July 2013, 12:02 PM
My wife has the non-wirless iPad, so does this mean I can still download the app and but access manually?
I mean does it allow me to choose any map, just like if I was using paper maps?
Thanks

Yes - and you can also use an external gps unit to link to the iPad via bluetooth and use the iPad for navigation. You just need to make sure that the app recognises the external gps. I have a Bad Elf GPS Pro that is designed specifically for the iPad and it works well with the Hema app.

AnD3rew
11th July 2013, 08:24 AM
I also have Hema, however I find TomTom much more useful, especially when in a new town and need to find a certain place


They are different tools for different jobs. I have both and use both. If you want directions and city navigation then HEMA is not for you, you need a tomtom/Navman etc. but they are useless anywhere remote or off the beaten track, they just get lost and stay lost.

I also find the HEMA much better for touring as you get to see the picture of where Yu are heading, what the next town is how far away the next town or highway turnoff is etc which you don't get with the normal satnavs

jx2mad
12th July 2013, 11:58 AM
OK mine is now working well except... the toppo map is years old and a lot of roads are missing. Can this map be updated? Jim:):):)

OffTrack
14th July 2013, 07:39 AM
OK mine is now working well except... the toppo map is years old and a lot of roads are missing. Can this map be updated? Jim:):):)

If you mean the 1:250K mapping, it's based on the NatMap imagery which was released in 2008. There hasn't been any update from NatMap so this is the latest version at that particular scale.

There is additional mapping that is available from the memory-map store: Aus Maps : Topo maps | 4WD maps | Australia maps | PC : iPad : Android | Memory-Map Aus/NZ (http://memory-map.com.au/digital-maps/topographic-maps-australia.html)

To go beyond that you need to purchase the 3rd party map import option ( Memory-Map software features | Pro | AIS | Remote Tracking (http://memory-map.com.au/mapping-software/pc-mapping-software-topo-maps-marine-charts-4x4-maps/features-and-add-ons-for-memory-map-mapping-software.html) ) for the PC desktop application, which allows you import and calibrate additional mapping for use in Memory-map/Hema.

Problem with all these mapping "solutions" for iOS (memory-map/hema and mud map in particular) is they lock you into a mapping ecosystem that is designed to benefit the map makers and app vendors rather that providing a versatile navigation platform for the end user. :mad:

cheers
Paul

jx2mad
14th July 2013, 11:20 AM
There are a lot of roads in my area (and I dont mean street by street but main through roads ) that have been there for years but are not shown on this map. Jim

OffTrack
14th July 2013, 04:18 PM
Hi Jim,

The AusTopo 250K maps included with Hema map package are 1:250,000 scale mapping. If you relate this to a paper map it would mean 1mm on paper equals 250,000mm (or 250m) on the ground. At this scale you don't get much detail in cities or towns. So it's not a question of updating the 250K maps to show more information, rather it's a matter selecting a more appropriate map to use for the task at hand.

For street directory style mapping you can buy the UBD street maps on a state by state basis for $18USD. I used the NT package around Darwin last year and found them very well suited for getting around town. Obviously it's not turn by turn but the mapping is very clear and usable for this kind of navigation.

You can download the zipped map packages from here:

Packaged Map Download : Hema maps, Marine Charts, Topo maps for PC, iPad or iPhone | Memory-Map Aus/NZ (http://memory-map.com.au/digital-maps/digital-map-shop-dms/digital-map-shop-dms-download-packaged-maps-android-ipad.html)

The unzipped maps can be transferred to your iPad using iTunes. There is a 10 day demo period on all these maps.

cheers
Paul

OffTrack
14th July 2013, 04:49 PM
I'm posting up some screen shots of mapping to try to explain the difference in scales.

This first image is the Geoscience Australia 250K mapping that is the basis for a lot of the commercial 250K mapping.
This is available in a format that can be loaded into mapping software and modified extensively.
As supplied this mapping can be pretty hard to read.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=62969&stc=1&d=1373787394

The next image is roughly the same area but taken from the Hema AusTopo 250K mapping.
There has been a lot of work done to improve the legibility for touring navigation, but you still have essentially the same level of detail.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=62970&stc=1&d=1373787424

I'm cheating a bit here, as this next two images are from mapping that is only available in OziExplorer format.
This is taken from the Spatial Vision VicMap DVD and shows the area around Essendon Airport at 1:100K scale.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=62972&stc=1&d=1373787455

The Spatial Vision mapping covers some built up areas at 1:50K

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=62973&stc=1&d=1373787489

And finally, the Memory-map supplied VicTopo 1:25K mapping of a section of Essendon Airport.
There is much more detail BUT I find this mapping next to useless when driving.
If you zoom in far enough to see the track detail, you only have 300-400m of track on screen so it's hard to see the overall context.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=62974&stc=1&d=1373787530

cheers
Paul

OffTrack
14th July 2013, 05:19 PM
And one final image, taken from the UBD street map covering the same area.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=62978&stc=1&d=1373789852