Help needed!

[tyler durden32]

Evening all
I've just signed up to this forum and was looking for some help from fellow Disco 3 owners.

I have a '07 Disco 3 SE and was looking for a small lift (approx. 2" to 2.5"). I have read about Johnson Rods and they sound like a cheap option of getting this lift, was wondering if anyone has used them or know what they're like?

Also, if I go up in tyre size my ratios are going to be out of whack, has anyone adjusted ratios on a LR3 or is that even possible?

Any help would be much appreciated!

[discotwinturbo]

If you have airbags, go to www.greenovalexperience.com GOE shortened rods is what you need. Easy to fit and swap over as needed. The most inexpensive lift kit on this planet!

For an electronic option go to www.llams.com.au

Both vendors on this site.

Both work very well.

Brett....

[tyler durden32]

Thanks for that! GOE rods sound like the Johnson Rods, I'd be happy to fit either as it gives you the lift for a super cheap price

But what about the diff ratios? With larger tyres it would make the LR3 much slower and with less "go"

[~Rich~]

In relation to the gearbox ratios, for the amount of variation in tyre size (approx 7% max) the standard ratios will be fine.

[tyler durden32]

Do any of you guys use the GOE rods or Johnson rods? If so, do you run all the time or just when going offroad?

Sorry for the amount of questions haha :D

[101RRS]

You should only use them when needed - saves wear on your CVs and wear on tyres.

With LLAMs everything can be done with a push of a button where with the rods you need to get out in the mud and move them to the right spot.

Garry

[phl]

The GOE rods are on all the time, but in the upper hole, so,normal height. When I need more height off road, just swap to the lower hole for a lift.

I also have IID Tool, which can also increase the height via re-calibrating the suspension to fine tune the height.

[tyler durden32]

Great! Thanks for the info, will look into the LLAMS as just pressing a button sounds a lot better thsn getting out in the mud haha!

Cheers

[AnD3rew]

Love my Llams three just the Llams alone gives you three different standard height options without speed limitations and in combination with the standard height controller and the special programs switch you get even more options although speed limited

[Epic pooh]

As Phl mentioned, a third approach is to use something like EAS Control or IIDTool (from Gap Diagnostic) both of which let you store three suspension "profiles" - eg. standard, up a bit, up a lot - both plug into the OBDII port and load the profile as you want to use it. IIDTool also has the benefit that it is a reasonably capable diagnostic tool that can do things like read/clear faults, live values and suchlike.

On the + side, no getting in the mud, nothing to install, and both have a range of other uses,

On the - side, expensive.

HTH

[phl]

On the - side, expensive.

HTH

You actually need both GOE rods and IID Tool together. The calibration usually has +/- 50 mm, but due to variation, it's usually +40 and -50, so easy enough to use the rods to go +50, and IID Tool to bring it back -50, giving you the standard road height. Then when going into the rough stuff, you can go up to +90, but I suspect that's too extreme.

I got the new IID Tool BT delivered from the UK for A$640; not that expensive considering what else it does.

[discojools]

"I got the new IID Tool BT delivered from the UK for A$640; not that expensive considering what else it does."

Just remind me who makes this tool and where in the UK did you get it from?

Jools

[SBD4]

"I got the new IID Tool BT delivered from the UK for A$640; not that expensive considering what else it does."

Just remind me who makes this tool and where in the UK did you get it from?

Jools

IIDTool for Land Rover - GAP Diagnostic (http://www.gap-diagnostic.com/products/iidtool.html)

Plenty of places sell it in the UK.

[Epic pooh]

I have found that standard, +20 and +40 are enough for me. My main goal is being a bit higher at speed so I do less harm to my mudflaps. I'm not hardcore and 90mm sounds like it would be boneshakingly stiffn - but awesome looking !

I have the older non-BT model IIDTool that I got from LRDirect in the UK delivered for around $400. They were awesome, delivered the next working day from the UK to Wollongong - admittedly ordered on Friday and delivered on Monday, but excellent service. Mine is one software revision behind Phl's but I hope they will release an update soon (promised clear adaptive learning Trans module and Engine module as well as drive park brake into service position and a few other things).

Agree it is not expensive for what it does - particularly compared to Hawkeye (in my albeit desktop exercise). Would have loved to be able to justify Faultmate ... but it is three times the price (albeit with significantly greater functionality).

[phl]

"I got the new IID Tool BT delivered from the UK for A$640; not that expensive considering what else it does."

Just remind me who makes this tool and where in the UK did you get it from?

Jools

Any reseller for BritParts will do. I actually got it from Salop 4x4 via eBay, but then asked for an ex-VAT pricing, which meant directly from them.

There is another reseller from DISCO4, but his postage cost was a lot more than I'd pay.

[phl]

Mine is one software revision behind Phl's but I hope they will release an update soon (promised clear adaptive learning Trans module and Engine module as well as drive park brake into service position and a few other things).


One update I'm looking forward to is the CCF edit for fuel consumption. Should be released soon. I'm actually impressed with their support; they discovered a fault with the hardware, and a new one was sent out immediately. They, like BBS, are also updating their firmware, which is a plus.

I did look at Faultmate, but as I wasn't looking at doing quite that much, so decided the extra cost could not be justified.