Aussie 101 club.

[101 Ron]

OK there has been much behind the posts talk and grumblings.
Where are most of the 101s in Aust located ?
Are we geared for the next step, or do we just keep on going the way we are as a group of like minded people using this forum and get together where ever we can ?
Could the club be centred around AJs as he seem to be the aussie linch pin of aussie 101s ?
We seem to be building up a good store of information and how to mod parts or where to get them.
If we did the club thing it would be a big step with meetings and the paper trail etc and people willing to put in time.
Cowora for the AGM ??????
My personal feeling is just to keep using this site and try to make it better used and known ?
Lets just throw our Thoughs out there.
The UK site seems to have been the trigger for this thread, we all seem to have had bad vibes.
Ron

[stuee]

My 2c:

While AJ's still in business and Incisor is kind enough to keep this forum running I see no need for change. I do my bit by subscribing to the forum and now supporting AJ where possible.

If either of those two changes then I'd be more than willing to consider joining an Aussie based 101 club. Otherwise, the other clubs I'm part of seem like a lot of hard work and generally result in clashes between people where they would otherwise have no reason to disagree.

When my 101 is up and running I'll be making an effort to go for runs with the few other Perth based 101's, otherwise, unless I relocate over east I'm not likely to take the 101 across the Nullarbor for a while yet (unless someone donates a overdrive to me :angel: )


edit* this year my membership for the overseas 101 club will be lapsing. Be damned if I'm going to pay that much each year to access a substandard forum.

[Sitec]

Was just mulling over your suggestion Ron, and thought it was a good idea. Stuee has a point tho, but.. How's about you have a word with Incisor and see if we could get a 'Section' within the 'Clubs Sections' on this great forum.... This is one of the reasons for going down the diesel route.. Having the ability to cruse across to Melbourne and beyond at 110kph at 1200 rpm... and yes to a meet up. It'd be nice to get as many 101's together. Would love to have a good look around them all. Can't wait to get mine on the road!

[Sleepy]

I'm on board. I'm disappointed with the insular way the uk club runs. I will probably persist because I think it's not sinister but incompetence that causes the problems

Perhaps given the distance required a aus101 club would be difficult given everyone's localities. But maybe we could use some fancy computer trickery and have virtual meetings.

Anyway a collective down here would be good.

[Sleepy]

A bit more....


Stuee I agree that the current set up is good but I think it would be great to collate all the info and advice. Eg: fitting overdrives, making cables, tyre info and diff locks. All this stuff is here but would be good if we could do a resource.

Also we may have a better chance at negotiating stuff . Eg instead of buying one tilt we could order say 10 and get a better price maybe flog a couple off at a small profit or perhaps get them made locally. I have been looking at designing a front bumper.... Maybe we could make a few and sell 'em or at least share the specifications.

I guess it's a bit altruistic but would be nice to think someone will be preserving 101's for many decades to come.

[101 Ron]

May be a thread with specs, where, why and how to fit, just sort of like what we have been doing, but more organised so the information is easier to find for reference ????? and shared ??????
Yes that big distance thing would kill a 101 club.....we are too spread out.

[Sitec]

I have been looking at designing a front bumper.... Maybe we could make a few and sell 'em or at least share the specifications.

And no copying mine!! ;) What had you in mind re bumper? Something like mine to like that of the 'Rage Rover'?

[stuee]

Before I reply, consider the pot stirred :twisted:

I think you raise good points Sleepy, but I think we could achieve most of them without the hassles of forming an official club. I'm more than happy to spend time collating procedures etc into a nice format like a wiki or some such thing (I have a lot from this forum saved under my links, and have plenty of photos of the bits I have done) and I think most of us would be happy to contribute to group buys if we got off our bottoms and organised them (we practically held an unofficial one with the Zeus disc brake conversion!).

After seeing how clubs operate with committees and vote's etc, I find generally those with the loudest voices get their way and those with the most common sense sit back and worry about more important things. Eg. look at the foreign 101 club and some of the decisions it has come out with. Additionally, my concern is that any club could become insular (good word!) like the existing club and only serves its members not the 101 community.

In saying all that, if a local club did form (by the hard work of others) I can guarantee I will front up with the fees and join (providing they are realistic), I just don't wont to commit myself to to any of the positions that go along with running a club (president, treasurer, secretary, random club position guy etc). I'd also demand video conferencing for AGM's and other important meetings as an option. Ill even let the club fly me over east to set up a Skype session so those remote can get involved :wasntme:

[stuee]

And no copying mine!! ;) What had you in mind re bumper? Something like mine to like that of the 'Rage Rover'?

Whaddaya mean no copying! I'v been saving pics of just about every custom 101 bumper I've seen. I'm gonna copy all the goods bits and put them into mine eventually. So far its basically just going to have twin headlights and an electric winch but those are the only good bits I've found :p

I'll also be copying the roof bar that daslandroverguy posted up, just using LED's instead.

On a more serious note, where I have been not finding the required info or looking in the wrong direction I post a thread up with as clear as possible title for the issue. Maybe to get things going we could ask the moderator to allow one or some of us to compile a sticky thread with links and descriptions of many of the good technical posts???

[Sleepy]

Sounds like need a thread on bumpers. 😇 I only copy things that aren't copyrighted ....hahahaha .... Nah I just want a bumper that is roughly similar in dimensions as original but a bit stronger and capable of holding and electric winch and some decent recovery points.

Yeah maybe a club is too much work for probably a couple of dozen members .

[juddy]

I thought Mick :)had his own club?

[DasLandRoverMan]

Having been a member of the UK based club, and also a forum based 'informal club' I can offer the following:

The 101 club wasn't too bad over here, I got a free show pass out of it for a weekend, and met a few other decent and similarly minded guys, however there were more than a few you'd actively avoid being drawn into conversation with as you couldn't get away unless you could find someone else to attach them too.

I was also an early member of the forum 'club' at OLLR.net, again mostly a decent bunch of guys, and things were generally good natured with a few gatherings, book a field, turn up, pay something towards the hire of any facilities sort of thing.

That was great until the membership expanded to a wider area and others with differing opinions came in.
I was eventually banned because someone had issue with me buying an Overdrive for a customers Series II, sticking £20 on the top plus a fitting charge, the guy I bought it from didn't give a **** as he got the price he wanted, the guy I did it for was happy as he had an overdrive fitted for half the cost he expected, but those in charge gave the impression that they expected me to buy it for the guy and fit it FOC, so after a major row I was banned.

In a case of double standards another boy whose face fitted who made a living doing similar work to myself fixed a 101 for a desperate owner who was at his wits end as to why it wouldn't run right and offered £1k to anyone who could sort it.
This lad realised the problem (fuel pump) took it away, changed the pump and returned it a week later, collecting the £1000 whilst he was at it.

Personally I wouldn't have charged him any more than £100 all in, but I'm the bad guy?

Anyways, 12 or so guys who all seem pretty level headed, informal group with access to useful information and group gatherings at the bigger shows? Seems sensible.

[Sleepy]

they expected me to buy it for the guy and fit it FOC,

This is my point to them. Why do we have to do everything FOC?

I was a member of a small (less than 100) Ham radio club. It was a fun little club and taught me heaps about radio. Then someone invented (built) a high gain HF multi band mobile antenna - it was a bloody ripper. The club had so much demand they turned it into a commercial venture. Great idea. I am no longer a member but I am sure they made a few bucks out of it. Including the blokes who built it.


HF Whip | FAMPARC (http://www.vk3frc.org.au/?page_id=24)

And that is a little club with bugger all money (I was treasurer in 1998 , we had less than $5000 total assets and about 65 members!)

This concept that clubs only have to work FOC or volunteer basis sees them wither, splinter and factionalise.

Another example is LROCV, their Field Day has grown into the Victorian 4wd show that (as I understand) turns over many many thousands every 12 months.

OK, better get of my soapbox lest it appear to be an election platform!!!!

[101 Ron]

Do we start a new sticky thread ???
What will it be called....the good oil 101 ?????( a quick reference how to thread to which good info is transferred into ????)

[Homestar]

Here's my 2 cents...

As a fairly new owner of a 101, I spent ages looking at every website, forum,thread and post I could find on them. After reading every thread - yes, EVERY thread - on the 101 Club workshop forum, and every thread here on the AULRO 101 FC forum, I found that there is far more useful information here to be honest, and more people who actively respond to questions and the work I have done to mine so far.

I started a thread on the 101 Club forum on my vehicle, and it has got just one reply, here I'm over 200 in the same time frame...:)

The local knowledge here on what will work, where to get stuff from, and how to do things has been invaluable. There also doesn't seem to be anyone here that is up themselves like elsewhere, just friendly helpful like minded folk who love their 101's as much as I do.

One thing that would be great, which has already been mentioned, is a somewhere to easily access all the info like where to get parts from, where to get parts made, how too's etc. maybe we could get a Mod to create a sticky here and we could use that to put links into about various items? Even though you may read something one day, it can be difficult to find again when you need it, which is just the nature of forums in general. If we could keep a list in a handy spot, it may prove useful - kind of like 'The Good Oil' specifically for 101's? Or, rather than reinvent the wheel, we could start sticking more links in here - http://www.aulro.com - forward control & lightweight info (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/101-forward-controls-variations/48061-forward-control-lightweight-info.html)

I would be happy to spend some time myself sifting through all the threads here and create some links in one common location?

As to a specific club, I would think that would be hard to do due to distances and the relatively few of us that own these here in Australia. While Inc is happy to host us here, I would just leave it.

I also will not be renewing with the 101 Club for reasons I have posted there. There are some very friendly and helpful people on that forum, but there are some others who aren't and don't want to listen to constructive criticism on how things could be improved. A post made there this arvo seems to suggest that they are in trouble as far as volunteers go, which is always a problem when you only have a very limited potential base for helpers.

Cheers - Gav.

[101 Ron]

Gav you can kick off the new thread with your snooker balls for gear shift knobs......I though that is a pearler of a idea.
Got get the Mod...... Diana to throw into the ring a good way to do it.
Whats a good name for the new sticky............to save time it can have just quick links to some preivous posts and then we can add new ones as time goes by ???????
humble 101 nut
Ron

[PeterP]

It would be good idea to consolidated the Oz 101 knowledge.


After seeing how clubs operate with committees and vote's etc, I find generally those with the loudest voices get their way and those with the most common sense sit back and worry about more important things.
I agree whole heartedly, just about every club I have been involved with is eventually hijacked by the power hungry, the empire builders and finally the control freaks.

May be a thread with specs, where, why and how to fit, just sort of like what we have been doing, but more organised so the information is easier to find for reference ????? and shared ??????
Yes that big distance thing would kill a 101 club.....we are too spread out.
YodaOz101Mk2 is basically on the money, information is what would be of real benefit to us all.

With a club we require a constitution, AGM's, fees, committee, commitments, blah blah blah. Not to mention the insurances to protect everyone including the committee from possible liabilities issues. (ranges from $300 to a realistic $700 a year.)
A collective of people that owns a domain name and runs a web site/forum is enough the give us 'cyber' credibility.

What would it involve you ask?:angel:
Domain name registration ~$15 a year
Hosting - this is one I have used before, helped with the original setup and have been very professional, sufficient storage and bandwidth ~$15 a month: 12 subscribers @ $20 a year would cover it all, some low-level advertising or sponsorship would also cover it (perhaps someone could put the bite on YodaOz101Mk1-alias AJ for startup costs) - Shared Windows Web Hosting for Businesses @UberGlobal (http://www.uber.com.au/business/windows_web_shared.php)

Bulletin Board software is open source (free). I have some experience with phpBB - https://www.phpbb.com/ as used by MVCA.com.au and the 101ClubUK. It seems easy to use and administer with all the options we would need.

We would need to discuss structure and the mechanics of it all but once setup we could do initial posts that link to articles posted by current readers on other bulletin boards and the go from there. (i.e 101ClubUK, Aulro, etc.)

Bottom line is the best info I have received over the years on the beloved 101's is from 101 Oz owners. Food for thought I hope!

Cheers, Peter

[stuee]

Gav you can kick off the new thread with your snooker balls for gear shift knobs......I though that is a pearler of a idea.
Got get the Mod...... Diana to throw into the ring a good way to do it.
Whats a good name for the new sticky............to save time it can have just quick links to some preivous posts and then we can add new ones as time goes by ???????
humble 101 nut
Ron

Rather than just links a short spiel on what the thread has would be great.

You could then break up the thread into sections likes brakes, axles, electrics, members threads etc.

As an example:
Brakes
101 Disc Brake Conversion
Details the Zeus Disc Brake conversion kit for a 101 and the fitment of the kit to the front axles
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/101-forward-controls-variations/174377-disc-brakes.html
Dual Diaphragm Brake Booster
Explores the options of fitting a dual diaphragm brake booster to improve pedal feel or replace a faulty original booster.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/101-forward-controls-variations/173425-dual-diaphram-brake-booster-101fc.html



But then I guess some don't need a spiel like:
Members Threads
Sleepy - http://www.aulro.com/afvb/101-forward-controls-variations/133050-sleepys-101-a.html
Sitec - http://www.aulro.com/afvb/101-forward-controls-variations/177255-my-new-101-a.html
Stuee - http://www.aulro.com/afvb/101-forward-controls-variations/128433-stuees-101-rebuild.html

Wouldn't take long to get them together and if somehow the same post could be edited by multiple contributors it would be easy to keep up to date.

edit* the above only too 5-10mins. I'm happy to put my hand up to prepare some extra stuff with the links I have saved over the last 18 months while sinking a few beers over the weekend.

[101RRS]

How could you lot run a 101 club when you cannot even focus on the topic :o.

Here we have a discussion about maybe setting up a club but already the discussion has spread about who has the best bumpers and Ron is worried about his balls :o. Sheesh :p

Personally I think this is a discussion that had to be had -the club, not bumpers or Ron's coloured balls and clearly there are differing views.

For my part I was recently a committee member of a club that is scattered all over the countryside. It is surviving but not a lot of club spirit as meetings rarely happen due to geographic dispersion, though trips are often organised.

For the moment my view is that we all seem to communicate well through the 101 section here and do not have to hassles and politics of a club. If we want a trip - no issues to organise. With a club, people would want to be committee members and want to deal with the good bits as well as the crap.

As far as AJ is concerned I think we all have had dealings with him and know the strengths and weaknesses. I have always found his pricing reasonable, his help great but I guess because of the limited market parts sometimes limited. Maybe if we can get more 101 owners to use AJ then he will be able to stock more stuff.

In my view, to achieve what we want to do as a 101 community we are probably best staying as we are. I know there are a lot of 101 owners out there who are either not using AULRO or rarely come here - if we can encourage their participation then we will move even further forward.

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

A post made there this arvo seems to suggest that they are in trouble as far as volunteers go, which is always a problem when you only have a very limited potential base for helpers.
Was that my post offering to pack and send the spare parts.

I don't think we need an Australian 101 club. That is what I like so much about AULRO. It's not a club.
I belong to a few motoring clubs and have found they are more about politics and personalities than the car. To give an example, I would not be able to run a trip in the west on the same day as another trip out east is being run. On AULRO, who cares?
And, then there's the meetings and compliance. Yetch!

We seem to have a great, growing 101 community here on AULRO. There are even some here from the 101 forum. I think our community will grow as we pamper our treasures and the UK club will gradually shrink as the salt gradually rots their 101's away. I have seen this happen with another type of car. Who'd have thought Australia would be exporting old European cars to Europe. It does.

Bottom line for me is I'm in the 101 club for the parts. So far, I've not had an issue apart from being one hoodstick short in the delivery.

Oh, and everybody, Thank you for all your advice an help. It has been much appreciated.

Oh, and Garry, I thought it was Gav who had the coloured balls. He posted pictures of them.

[bobslandies]

Gav you can kick off the new thread with your snooker balls for gear shift knobs......I though that is a pearler of a idea.
Got get the Mod...... Diana to throw into the ring a good way to do it.
Whats a good name for the new sticky............to save time it can have just quick links to some preivous posts and then we can add new ones as time goes by ???????
humble 101 nut
Ron

What about 101.101

Bob

[Homestar]

What about 101.101

Bob

I like that.:)

[Homestar]

I have PM'ed Diana for advice on how this could best be set up and what limitations the rules, etc may have. I'll wait until we here back to start anything new. In the meantime keep the ideas coming.:)

Not sure if we can have a multi access post to edit the info, or if someone would need to oversee it and edit it as new info comes along.

If we just have a normal thread running, we may risk doing exactly what we are trying to avoid? I like Stuee's idea of a post that has different sections and links to the relevant threads.

[Sitec]

Dare I suggest 'Room 101'.... Coloured Balls and Bumpers! That has a ring to it too!!! Still giggling at the comments. Anyheww, as a few have said, this forum is great, and tho I now spend most of my time loitering in the 101 section, there is still a lot of time spent in the technical sections and now Projects section with the wife's Ser 2 Tdi.. The idea of a club is good but, we'd still be doing the same thing as we do here because not many of us would make the Fri Nite Pub Meet... and others would be there every wk/month.. What might work is an annual 101 meet up as was suggested somewhere before. Vic seems the logical place as there's a fair number of you there, its reachable for the 2..or 3 from SA, and the few in NSW. As for our QLD agents and WA agents, not so good... But it could rotate around states.... If a date or wk/w.e was locked in in roughly the same place every year then I think most of us would make the effort. If it was to coincide with the Melrose meet or what ever the Vic meet is then there'd b camping, activities etc as well and it would save a lot of planning and organisation. Just my thoughts. I'd still join the club tho!!! :D

[Homestar]

That bought everything to a grinding halt didn't it...:D

[Mick_Marsh]

We're sort of trying to get as many 101's at Corowa early next year.
Seems like a good spot. Good event too.

[roobar_and_custard]

Is this the taste of things to come? Club gagging orders already...??

Keep up the posts on this forum! I enjoy reading these even though I don't own a 101. I used to, but now have something a little different, but all this info is great, the banter is excellent, and I don't want to be excluded if things change.

Is a Volvo allowed in a Land Rover club???

[101 Ron]

We are laid back here.;););););)
A Volvo?????/ if its a C303 and you promise to give us all a drive it should be OK to hang around.

[stuee]

I don't think there would be any issue with this place closing its doors to the public anytime soon.

Volvo's (the new crash avoiding kind) continually play havoc with my radar detector though. As long as you don't use your adaptive cruise control around me I'm fine with you hanging about.

[roobar_and_custard]

TGB13 - yes. It's a bit old for radar reflective paint, so shouldn't worry, and it is unlikely to crash whilst festering on the driveway. That and I'm in Melbourne and probably a little too far away.
For comparison, parked next to a 101 (AJ's I think).
One day I'll start a thread, but need to finish the house first, and build a garage...
Until then, I am watching with interest (and some degree of jealousy) the excellent work you guys put in.
Ian.

[Mick_Marsh]

TGB13 - yes. It's a bit old for radar reflective paint, so shouldn't worry, and it is unlikely to crash whilst festering on the driveway. That and I'm in Melbourne and probably a little too far away.
For comparison, parked next to a 101 (AJ's I think).
One day I'll start a thread, but need to finish the house first, and build a garage...
Until then, I am watching with interest (and some degree of jealousy) the excellent work you guys put in.
Ian.
Yep. That's AJ's. Back when the front bumper was more complete.

Nice Volvo. Please start a thread on it.
Bring it up to Corowa next year.

[Sleepy]

Well, so do I nominate for a 101Club committee position?

Thoughts?

(for those without access to 101 forum, the treasurer and others are pretty fired up with the colonials complaining about perceived favouritism of UK members over locals, but have suggested we could have "remote" or O/S committee members as they never have committee meetings anyway!)

P.S. they love mick <3

[Homestar]

Yeah, Mick is a favourite there isn't he.:D. But, all he has done is point out some legitimate points that some didn't like to hear too much. I haven't seen that person post in the last 24 hours so maybe he blew a gasket and retired to lick his wounds.

If you're up for helping out and being on the committee, go for it mate. At this stage I'm not planning on renewing my membership for reasons I've listed there, but who knows, I could change my mind if some balance is bought into the equation.

I am a bit heartened that there are some there that seem to have taken the messages put forward and are looking to work on a solution. I hope they can sort something out.

All the best - Gav.

[101 Ron]

I gather you are rocking the boat a bit sleepy ?

They would like Mic because he has not stired things up or stopped paying membership.?????????
I do know for a fact they would be looking at our posts.

[101 Ron]

I just read Gavs last post........what have I been missing>????????

[Homestar]

I just read Gavs last post........what have I been missing>????????

All sorts of fun mate:D.

Not sure if it would be right or legal to copy some of the posts, so lets just say things have been a bit heated at times by certain people - not so much from our side of the pond - well maybe a bit, but Mick's posts and replies to others rants have been calm, well thought out and intelligent - everything the other persons wasn't...:D

[Mick_Marsh]

Actually, I'm quite enjoying stirring that one person up. He deserves it. He was way out of line and from the PM's I've been getting from there, many others in the club have come to the same conclusion.

[101RRS]

Well, so do I nominate for a 101Club committee position?

Thoughts?

(for those without access to 101 forum, the treasurer and others are pretty fired up with the colonials complaining about perceived favouritism of UK members over locals, but have suggested we could have "remote" or O/S committee members as they never have committee meetings anyway!)

P.S. they love mick <3

Couldn't care less :(. They were not interested in our views a while back and only seem so now because they are having a few issues.

[DasLandRoverMan]

I've definitely missed something...

[Mick_Marsh]

I've definitely missed something...
Not really. Just another spat about spare parts.
The forum is full of them.

Actually, it wasn't really about spare parts. It was more about the dysfunctionality of the club/forum caused by lack of communication.
A new member inquired about when a listed spare part that was out of stock will be in stock.
It was then answered by people who hold office in the club with "I want some too" and "get series ones, drill, tap and engrave them".
Although helpful, did not answer the question so the new member asked again. This appeared to put a few noses out of joint so the member had to defend his enquiry.
Then the new member was told the person to ask was almost uncontactable.
Now getting a little annoyed because he can't get spares which he joined the club to get, the new member pointed out the dysfunctionality should be improved.
A committee member then pointed him to the "online parts shop". Not good advice as the new member is an overseas member and the "online parts shop" does not accept overseas orders.
Then a Member advised the new member he should try other suppliers (in a nice way) and acknowledged some of the membership appeared to be "grumpy old men". One of the previous postees protested "I'm not old" at which point I told my joke.
Things went downhill from there.
It went on for another two pages of posts. All in all, it took up four pages of a six page thread. Impressive.

[Homestar]

Nice synopsis Mick.:)

Oh, and even with those pages of replies, that member still hasn't got a response on when those parts will be available.:D

[101RRS]

Yes but the history goes back at least 3 years - the latest spat is exactly that the latest spat. The last lot involved non members being banned from the forum and prior to that is was members leaving because of the parts (or lack of parts) issue.

Old issues being revisited time and time again.

As I have said previously I would rather pay a bit more and get parts rather tahn buy through the club and very possibly not get them at all. As far as the knowledge base - Ron helped me a lot when I first got my 101 and over the years I have learnt more myself to the point I pretty well know it inside out and when I do need more information I can generally find it here.

I left the club because it was not suiting my needs but continued to be on the forum where I happily contributed more to their knowledge base than I ever got out of it then was essentially accused of bludging on their forums when they decided to close it to non members - their loss not mine.

They did not seem to under stand that the forum would help their club grow like it has for the Series 1 Club and other clubs like the E-Type club.

Anyway - their loss not mine.

Garry
Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

Yes but the history goes back at least 3 years - the latest spat is exactly that the latest spat. The last lot involved non members being banned from the forum and prior to that is was members leaving because of the parts (or lack of parts) issue.

Old issues being revisited time and time again.

As I have said previously I would rather pay a bit more and get parts rather tahn buy through the club and very possibly not get them at all. As far as the knowledge base - Ron helped me a lot when I first got my 101 and over the years I have learnt more myself to the point I pretty well know it inside out and when I do need more information I can generally find it here.

I left the club because it was not suiting my needs but continued to be on the forum where I happily contributed more to their knowledge base than I ever got out of it then was essentially accused of bludging on their forums when they decided to close it to non members - their loss not mine.

They did not seem to under stand that the forum would help their club grow like it has for the Series 1 Club and other clubs like the E-Type club.

Anyway - their loss not mine.

Garry
Garry
Yes. I can see you're rather worked up about that. You signed your name twice.

Closing up the forum was a backward move for the club. They saw it as an attempt to force people to join the club. At first, it appeared to work but now I think the club is driving people away from the forum and the club. We've noticed a few join up here (and they are welcome).

What I think the club should do is split the club from the forum, only in the way they administer.
If you are a member of the club, you have access to all areas of the club, forum, spare parts, magazine, etc.
If you are a subscriber to the forum, you have access to the forum & spare parts but not the "club only" section of the forum.
If you join the forum for free, you have unrestricted access to the forum except the "subscribers only" and "club only" sections. Oh, and no spare parts (for legal reasons, apparently.)

The club fees will remain as they are. The subscriber fees perhaps a little less.

Well, that's what I would do if I was dictator.

The parts issue is not really a parts issue. It is a communication issue. It's so clear even Blind Pew could see it.

Oh, well. What can you do? Something about blind horses and water springs to mind.

[Sitec]

Mmm, all good fun!! Well, I never got to joining in the UK because I heard similar stories over there... which put me off joining now... Reiterated by these last comments/issues.. Pitty really, thinking it'd be money well spent joining up now just so I could read those four pages!! :D... IPad.... Screenshot and post here anyone?... ;) On a brighter note, my 101 is somewhere between Montrose and Cockatoo Valley, having just been overtaken by another forum member who's carrying the tyres for the 101 he's just overtaken... He'll be going back with an engine and gearbox... Not the ones out of the 101 he's just overtaken!!! :p

Returning to the first issue of parts availability.... I used to know a guy in the UK called Graham Holding.. He had a yard full of 101's and other treasures, and used to deal in them, Pink Panthers and Lightweights... I could try and catch up with him and see if he'd be interested in sending stuff over here... Maybe a box every 6 months to Our 'Melbourne agent' and it gets distributed from there?? Just a thought.

[DasLandRoverMan]

Nice synopsis Mick.:)

Oh, and even with those pages of replies, that member still hasn't got a response on when those parts will be available.:D

It is, but just like reading a plot summary for a big action film you can't help but feel that seeing it would actually be better?

Still, as mentioned before, happy to work as a rally point/proxy over here for parts or vehicles before sending stuff on.

Perhaps you'd get stuff quicker if it went to a UK address first?

[Sleepy]

Well just written to the committee offering my services. We'll see what happens. Very surprised they don't have committee meetings . How does that work?
Sounds like they are very overloaded with too few helpers.

[Homestar]

Sounds like they are very overloaded with too few helpers.

Overloaded by what? I can see why the parts department is busy with only one guy doing that in between working and getting married, but what do the rest of them do? Not being a smartarse here, I genuinely don't know what anyone does.

I don't even know what places are up for grabs?

[Mick_Marsh]

Overloaded by what? I can see why the parts department is busy with only one guy doing that in between working and getting married, but what do the rest of them do? Not being a smartarse here, I genuinely don't know what anyone does.

I don't even know what places are up for grabs?
I think Darren just takes the money an passes it on.
Martin then packs and agonises over saving a few pence in the selection of transit.

If it was me I'd just send it by post. They deliver to post boxes.

I think Darren restocks as well.

[Sleepy]

No idea what they do Gav but I presume they are elected positions. Not even sure of the structure. I am happy to keep " glass half full" on this.

[Homestar]

No idea what they do Gav but I presume they are elected positions. Not even sure of the structure. I am happy to keep " glass half full" on this.

Well good on you for having a crack. Keep us all up to date on what you learn, it may help myself and others try to understand some of the thought processes going on there.

[Sitec]

Hi guys. Whilst perusing the 101 UK forum I found a link to this company who seem to have a reasonable amount of spares. Might be worth looking into.. They are called N K Recovery Services. They 'specialise' in 101's and parts for 101's. have a few other 'nice to have's' as well... Still not got my head around attaching a link on here so here's a screen shot of their 101 page! :)

[Mick_Marsh]

Hi guys. Whilst perusing the 101 UK forum I found a link to this company who seem to have a reasonable amount of spares. Might be worth looking into.. They are called N K Recovery Services. They 'specialise' in 101's and parts for 101's. have a few other 'nice to have's' as well... Still not got my head around attaching a link on here so here's a screen shot of their 101 page! :)
Been recommended to me before. They don't return my emails.
Let us know how you go.

[ajge]

Hi guys. Whilst perusing the 101 UK forum I found a link to this company who seem to have a reasonable amount of spares. Might be worth looking into.. They are called N K Recovery Services. They 'specialise' in 101's and parts for 101's. have a few other 'nice to have's' as well... Still not got my head around attaching a link on here so here's a screen shot of their 101 page! :)

Here is the link N K Recovery Services, Land Rover Parts and MOD spares, recovery, generator, vehicle and trailer hire. (http://www.nkrecovery.co.uk/index.html)
I have used Nick a couple of times for parts. Friendly service and no issues.
regards
Andrew

[chazza]

Still not got my head around attaching a link

Click on the icon at the start of the web address at the top of your browser;
When the address is highlighted go to File;
Click on Copy;
Go to your post and put the cursor where you want it;
Go to File click on Paste.

[Sitec]

101 spares 1 (http://www.nkrecovery.co.uk/1011.html)

Ah... Excellent! Even works on an Ipad.

[Homestar]

Ok, things have progressed. I'll be starting a new thread soon and it will be a sticky, so it will always be there to see.

I will start it out similar to what Stuee suggested in an earlier post. My thoughts are - to keep it just to the info required - is that there be minimal posts in the new thread, and all the information and links in just a few posts so we don't get back into a situation that you can't find anything you are looking for.

To this end I was thinking that as things are needed to be added, amended, a new idea or though for that thread that it is posted as a reply, and I'll update, add etc this detail to the main posts and then move here or delete that reply. That or you can PM stuff and I can just update it from there.

Does this sound like a workable start? Remembering that it won't be my thread, but an accumulation of all our ideas and thoughts.

I just don't want it to get so big and messy that we loose what we were looking for in the start. If it becomes a free for all and we end up with 100 posts, we will again be looking for a way to rationalise things.

I'll make a start on it and we can make it up as we go along.:)

Just to add a quick note that if you hadn't noticed that I am now a Mod for this and a couple of other forums here, so sing out if you need a hand with anything - I am here to help.:)

Cheers - Gav.

[Sleepy]

Thanks Gav,
Nice work. Great to have a sticky as a receptacle of all things 101.

I would like to leave this thread running as a chat area. It's good to have somewhere to post general 101 chit chat without having to graffiti on others threads. (Especially if your 101 knowledge is a bit slim :angel:)

You're the mod now so I will leave that in your hands.

On another note I have had contact from 101 Club in UK and they have sent me rules etc. It is interesting to see the "club" is not really a "club" as we would know it. There appears little requirements as one would see (and I have seen) here in Aus - Incorporation, Insurance, Meetings, AGM's , minutes of meetings, conduct of meetings etc. I find it quite interesting.

Nonetheless I have offered them my services, and I will be hoping to form a conduit for Aus....maybe AUS/NZ or maybe even AUS/SE ASIA/Pacific section wiithin the UK Club. Maybe just a pipe dream but I will give it a go. My aim is to become a Ordinary Committee member. We'll see what happens. Not sure they realise how serious I am

I'll try to keep posting here (who knows who's reading this :angel:) to keep the aulro 101 owners abreast of matters.

Who knows, I may even be able to get a few to join (re-join) ......(don't answer that Garry!:p)

[stuee]

Just to add a quick note that if you hadn't noticed that I am now a Mod for this and a couple of other forums here, so sing out if you need a hand with anything - I am here to help.:)



Better be nice to you now I guess :p

Sounds like a plan though, good work!

[Homestar]

I'm not going to get heavy handed by any means- I'm here to help and make sure this forum is what everyone wants it to be and to encourage usage and ideas to make it even better.:) I'll let everything run its course here - this is a nice easy forum with pleasant people. This thread is a good spot - as you mentioned - for off topic tid bits that come along now and then.

[Homestar]

Better be nice to you now I guess :p


When were you ever not nice to me????:D

[bobslandies]

Ok, things have progressed. I'll be starting a new thread soon and it will be a sticky, so it will always be there to see.

I will start it out similar to what Stuee suggested in an earlier post. My thoughts are - to keep it just to the info required - is that there be minimal posts in the new thread, and all the information and links in just a few posts so we don't get back into a situation that you can't find anything you are looking for.

To this end I was thinking that as things are needed to be added, amended, a new idea or though for that thread that it is posted as a reply, and I'll update, add etc this detail to the main posts and then move here or delete that reply. That or you can PM stuff and I can just update it from there.

Does this sound like a workable start? Remembering that it won't be my thread, but an accumulation of all our ideas and thoughts.

I just don't want it to get so big and messy that we loose what we were looking for in the start. If it becomes a free for all and we end up with 100 posts, we will again be looking for a way to rationalise things.

I'll make a start on it and we can make it up as we go along.:)

Just to add a quick note that if you hadn't noticed that I am now a Mod for this and a couple of other forums here, so sing out if you need a hand with anything - I am here to help.:)

Cheers - Gav.

Hi Gav,

Congrats on you elevation to Modship! IIRC if you start the thread you can continue to edit your initial post beyond the normal editing period for general posts.
That way you should be able to update any of those sticky threads as you come across more info or links, etc.

You are right about threads becoming unmanageable, drifting or going completely off-topic so a reference area would be great if it could not get "polluted" - no offence meant;).

Bob

[Homestar]

Just a quick update to let everyone know I haven't forgotten about the 101 101 thread. There have been some discussions with the other Mods for this forum on the best way to manage that thread/idea.

Will let you know what is going on next week. Sorry for the delays in this.:)

Cheers - Gav.

[stuee]

Since this is a bit of a general chit chat section now does anyone mind PM'ing me (or posting up) the price they paid for the Detroits (including delivery) from GBR? I see a few have recently purchased them when I was on the 101 forum.

Very close to buying one if I can get the brake bits reconditioned at the right price.

[101RRS]

Since this is a bit of a general chit chat section now does anyone mind PM'ing me (or posting up) the price they paid for the Detroits (including delivery) from GBR? I see a few have recently purchased them when I was on the 101 forum.

Very close to buying one if I can get the brake bits reconditioned at the right price.

You had better get in quick - I have it on good authority that detroits for the 101 are no longer being made and GBR only have a few left.

Garry

[DasLandRoverMan]

You're not wrong. It's certainly down into single figures.

[stuee]

You guys should be salesman. As soon as I read that last night I emailed Bill. Waiting now for billing details and will have a Detroit on the way. May as well hold off on the rear hubs until it arrives now.

Also seeing if AJ has any ARB side gears. I sent that email before so I may end up spending my tax return rather quickly :o

[Sleepy]

Also seeing if AJ has any ARB side gears. I sent that email before so I may end up spending my tax return rather quickly :o

Very happy with Bill's service Stuee. I understood the ARB side gears were all gone. Would you shoot me a PM if AJ has more , I'd be interested. Like wise if we need to get a few interested and have some made up I would like to pop an ARB up front.

[Sitec]

It always surprises me how many of us are thinking along the same lines!! Have the Detroit on the shelf, have an ARB coming in in the back of a 110, and had asked AJ about half gears to replace the smaller ones... Heard nothing yet but would be defiantly interested if there is a batch being done up! Would prefer a Truetrac but I believe there is not one to suit the 101 axle..... Talking of batches... There is still a stack of Rocky Mountain Door Tops available in the UK if anyone is interested.... Bout to have a few sets sent over.. The fella over there said that a certain club expressed interest in 'said' door tops so a batch was especially made but a lot of them are still there!! Stuee, did your front diff end up being ok?

Oops! Kinds gone off track with this thread a bit! Sorry!

[Sleepy]

What do you know of the RM Doortops? I nearly bought a pair but
then read a few threads about poor build and not fitting too well. Mine arent too bad so will prob. just refurb them.

[101 Ron]

It always surprises me how many of us are thinking along the same lines!! Have the Detroit on the shelf, have an ARB coming in in the back of a 110, and had asked AJ about half gears to replace the smaller ones... Heard nothing yet but would be defiantly interested if there is a batch being done up! Would prefer a Truetrac but I believe there is not one to suit the 101 axle..... Talking of batches... There is still a stack of Rocky Mountain Door Tops available in the UK if anyone is interested.... Bout to have a few sets sent over.. The fella over there said that a certain club expressed interest in 'said' door tops so a batch was especially made but a lot of them are still there!! Stuee, did your front diff end up being ok?

Oops! Kinds gone off track with this thread a bit! Sorry!

Do you have any idea of cost of a set of door tops ????

[101RRS]

Do you have any idea of cost of a set of door tops ????

Me too - mine are all rusted out.

[stuee]

Thread is pretty much chit chat anyway so I dont think it matters too much if we stray from the original topic.

Got an email from AJ (or Bev). Since ARB have changed the air locker model for the Salisbury, they now get a factory ARB locker and get the gears modified for you on an as required basis.

Not sure on the front diff yet. Its cleaned up nicely but wont really know until I've given it a run. I dont imagine it will do too many kilometers before I pull it down so happy to know I can get an ARB easily enough.

My door tops are actually pretty good so not a worry for me. Door bottoms on the other hand need a fair bit of work :(

[Sitec]

Hello all. Door tops are £250 excluding VAT (same as GST) per pair, but we wouldn't have to pay any VAT as overseas. I've sent an Email to see what the postage is going to cost. Will keep you all informed. Re fitting/quality I'd always been led to believe they are well made... Has anyone heard different.....?

[Mick_Marsh]

AJ has some door tops, well, he had some a couple of years ago.

[101RRS]

Hello all. Door tops are £250 excluding VAT (same as GST) per pair, but we wouldn't have to pay any VAT as overseas. I've sent an Email to see what the postage is going to cost. Will keep you all informed. Re fitting/quality I'd always been led to believe they are well made... Has anyone heard different.....?

A silly question - can you confirm these are 101 tops and not series 3 tops. Also are they just frames or the completed item? The pic would indicated the completed item.

Garry

[Sitec]

The price is for a pair of complete (inc glass and latches etc) extruded aluminium door tops to suit the 101. He's yet to get back to me on postage costs. By all accounts there was a lot of interest and requests for them in the UK, so when they imported a batch of Series type tops, they ordered a load of 101 door tops, had them made and imported.. Funnily enough, when the time came to pay for them, those that wanted them all went quiet!!! Might be time for a bulk order...

[stuee]

I remember a post on the UK forum about a pair of these being fitted. Big gaps that needed lots of adjustment and some slight modification to get an acceptable fit. Not sure if it was in the club section but don't have any access anymore to check. Could just be inconsistent land rover build quality???

[stuee]

Nope just checked they appear to be Craddock items.

edit* Seems like its Craddock and Rocky Mountain - or Craddocks sell Rocky Mountain. Just found this in the sections I can still view. Perhaps this is why the interest dissapeared:
http://www.101club.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6657&hilit=rocky+mountain

Its viewable by non-financial members - i.e. me.

And this thread is where all the interest came from:
http://www.101club.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3139&hilit=door+tops

[stuee]

Bump. Did anything happen with the door tops? Interested to her what the fit and finish is like from local members.

[Mick_Marsh]

GG has Rocky Mountain door tops. I'll post up a pic next week.

[The ho har's]

GG's door tops were fitted here and painted;) Ours are here as well, they didn't come with rubber around the top, HH has sourced some rubber to do the job, they don't have the channel to fit the rubber like regular 101 door tops. GG's looked good though. Will let you know about ours.

Mrs hh:angel:

[stuee]

GG's door tops were fitted here and painted;) Ours are here as well, they didn't come with rubber around the top, HH has sourced some rubber to do the job, they don't have the channel to fit the rubber like regular 101 door tops. GG's looked good though. Will let you know about ours.

Mrs hh:angel:

I don't have any seals for my existing door tops and cant get hold of any at a reasonable price so going to run pinchweld type seals from clark rubber on the door surrounds.

Really, mine only need some new window channels and some small rust holes patched but I'm entertaining the idea of getting some new ones.

[Mick_Marsh]

Well, apparently there is a new 101 club in the UK.
http://www.the101club.org/

[stuee]

I've started following them. Interested to see where it goes and what membership offers.

[nicktulloh]

They've trademarked that name. That's enough for me to steer clear.

[Mick_Marsh]

They've trademarked that name. That's enough for me to steer clear.
Interesting first post, Nick.
Welcome to the forum. I assume you have a 101. There are a number of 101's in America now.
You may wish to start a new thread in the 101 section of the forum and post up pictures of your 101. We love pictures.
In fact, there is an unwritten rule on this forum, "It didn't happen without pictures."

[Sitec]

Yup... I'm in agreeance with Mick! Pictures please!!

[Sitec]

Hi all.
There's been a bit of movement over in the UK re 101 clubs/groups as no doubt a few of you are aware... Anyway, a friend over there messaged me on Facebook yesterday about the subject. His first message was this:-

"Simon, if instead of the 101 FCC&R there was a Global Association of 101 Clubs - for the sake of harnessing purchasing power and unity. Would your Aus. Club nominate a person to sit on the Associations governing panel ?"

I replied with this:-

"Yeah, I recon so. AULRO is a forum, so doesn't have the club rules, but there's been talk of an Aussie club, so I could add a post about there being a Global Club/Association option and c what feedback we get.. Let me know if that suits u, and if so how you'd like it worded and with what points, and we'll go from there. My email is sitec74@icloud if you want to get hold of me directly. Cheers for now."

And this is the reply:-

"Simon, The principle would be that localised Clubs could start anywhere and everywhere and run under there own governance and once they've met some criteria, would be eligible to join the Global Association. The Global Association would not operate as an owners Club but as an association of them. This would allow more flexibility and accountability. It would reduce operational costs. The problem of difficult members would become a localised issue. A small local
club disbanding and reforming to eject a rogue members is better than losing a whole global operation. Time and time again. Global communications is now supporting terrorism in many aspects of sociology and we are suffering one of them. I'm just fielding a concept. Due to the way you chaps have been treated in the past, as a nation and a continent, I thought you should be the first to be asked. How you word it is up to you. As at some point someone there will become the representative of it. So please offer up the concept and see if people would help to build this.

Steve"


I'm not exactly sure how it'd work with us, not being a club, but as I've been asked, I thought I'd 'put it out there' for discussion. Mods/Inc, value your thoughts as its not something I know the logistics of what's involved etc etc. The Global Group has been started on Facebook, tho Im assuming/hoping it will migrate from there to a more secure and permanent place. So, guys.. Fire away.. R we interested, how do we go about it? Thoughts, issues etc.

[Brute]

After going through the process of turning TeamW4 from 4 or 5 mates on Aulro to an incorporated club with 60 odd members and affiliating with the WA 4x4 association and council of motoring clubs, I can attest that it is not an easy task and still takes a fair bit of managing. However it was necessary to achieve our objectives so we worked through it. If the 101 club / register wanted to be a governing body/ association for 101 owners, maybe any incorporated Land Rover specific club could become a member. It may fragment the 101 comunity a bit but would still meet their criteria for purchasing power etc. and encourage more owners to be a part of them.

[101 Ron]

I have not bothered to look at the UK 101 club site and see whats going on as I find everything I need here.
Yes distance and time is our killer in this part of the 101 world.
I think we should go as....... AULRO 101 group....... and Sitec can be our rep to wave the flag with other clubs.
We should be friendly enough and wise enough to communicate though this forum.
The back up for us going this way if things get out of hand, Incisor can come along and pull us back into line as at the end of the day it is his web site and he is a ultimate governing independent power.
I feel that any communication should be open to all on this forum site so everyone knows what is going on and cannot say they didn't know or were left out of the loop and everyone has a voice.
Three golden Fs count here very much ...Firm,Fair,Friendly.
I see the advantage of being a group is if some one gets a mod or a part made, then more could be manufactured and we share the information and throw in between ourselves to cover the costs etc.
It must be a fully open system.
We have done similar in the past.......like the winch cables of many years ago.......or shared specs and where to get winch shift and tranfercase cables made.
Using the word group covers us for many things and accurately describes what we are without the running problems of a club and the time needed to run it.
Our over seas voice (sitec) if he wants the job ,should be reviewed on this forum once a year and the offer of some one to do the job if they want it.
I think we should get AJ posting on this forum on a regular basis and he can tell us what he is up to spare parts wise and importation wise of vehicles.
AJ being a dealer and making his living in trading in Landrover parts I wouldn't expect him to share everything he knows as he depends on it to survive.........I have found in the past AJ is just as much devoted to the 101 cause as we are and could be less helpful and line his pockets more if he wanted too.
We need Incisor to have his say on this post.
Ron

[101 Ron]

As a AULRO 101 Group we can use the name and this site to encourage get together meetings even if it is through other clubs and groups like Corowa and Melrose.
In the past we have had 4 101s and a FC series landrovers on a winter rallie of another club all organised though this forum and many others.
Just do what we do now but just a little bit more under a name AULRO 101 Group all open and friendly.
We may have to have a big Group decision on the number and design of the AULRO 101 group beer mugs :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:angel:

[101 Ron]

Green 101 beer mugs to have a out line of a 101 done in a gold out line .
underneath.....Firm, Fair ,Friendly
AULRO 101 Group

Just thinking out loud.........or am I mad .
Ron

[Mick_Marsh]

Green 101 beer mugs to have a out line of a 101 done in a gold out line .
underneath.....Firm, Fair ,Friendly
AULRO 101 Group

Just thinking out loud.........or am I mad .
Ron
You own a 101. You are mad.

Mmmmm.... Beer mugs.

A mate got a set of personalised coffee mugs. They were cheap and on the internet. A small batch were made. We might be able to get a few better quality ones made for a reasonable price.
Worth looking in to.

[Brute]

I think what Ron is saying is absolutely right for the sharing of information and parts sourcing etc, but I would assume the "Global 101 association" is going to want financial input from its " member groups" to enable it to operate as do most associations etc.
I think the financial part of it would be difficult though something informal like Aulro.

Ian

The mugs sound great though :-)

[incisor]

this is why i built aulro in the first place...

if you do a run of mugs, i'll have one as a momento...