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clintox
21st July 2013, 02:25 PM
My tdi300 (now my daily workhorse instead of weekend warrior) i noticed has been loose in the back end when up to speed on the hwy, feels like wind blowing you around. So today on whilst inspecting the truck i noticed this 63283 the trailing arm bushes seem to be loose on chassis ends on both sides these were replaced along with all bushes a year ago. Is this my boat like feel. And is there a difference between 110 and 130 bushes chassis end
clintox
21st July 2013, 02:26 PM
I should mention you cannot tighten nut any more either
Bush65
21st July 2013, 03:37 PM
It's not the clearest pic ..., but from the best I can make out, the bush appears to be bolted onto the incorrect side of the chassis mount. May also be
I can't see what you are describing, but others have reported poor life from the bushes that are being supplied now, so I'm not disputing what you have described. And if this is the case, then it will affect your handling in that way.
Going by the recent quality of the rubber used, then the best advise is to get replacement poly bushes from Fulcrum. They should last much better and will flex better off road into the bargain.
clintox
21st July 2013, 06:46 PM
Sorry crappy pic when enlarged. Taken on phone it's on the right way round. Where is best place for poly bushes
460cixy
21st July 2013, 06:49 PM
Looks pretty normal best I can tell from the crapy pic  don't get talked in to plastic bushes by the sheeples especially if you don't need them
rick130
21st July 2013, 07:40 PM
Get a decent lever in somewhere and see if there's any play there and at the A frame to chassis bushes, any play in either spot will result in rear steer.
My original rubber ones had compressed badly and needed replacing at around the 90,000km mark, the slop at that point was bad, the rear end rear steering and particularly roll steering terribly.
I'm a sheeple and fitted Super Pro bushes at that point ten years ago and have not needed to touch them since. Roughly 220,000km later and they're still fine, with better flex into the bargain.
No, actually I'm not a sheeple as at that time poly bushes were frowned upon by the Landy community and I was told I'd wreck my ride quality, crack my chassis and was probably a Land Cruiser mole, particularly after advocating the SP bushes on an open forum. :angel:
uninformed
21st July 2013, 10:12 PM
Looks pretty normal best I can tell from the crapy pic  don't get talked in to plastic bushes by the sheeples especially if you don't need them
plastics aint plastics ;)
460cixy
22nd July 2013, 06:44 AM
I gave em a go and six months ago they all went in the bin  the front end clunked and banged like a boss  the radius rod bushes at the diff end were all distorted out of shape pan hard rod bushes I went throu 2 sets of those before seing the light. The rear faired much better except the the aframe bushes  now the only plastic junk in there is the diff end of the trailing arms  I had a heap of pics but there gone AWOL
rick130
22nd July 2013, 06:57 AM
I gave em a go and six months ago they all went in the bin  the front end clunked and banged like a boss  the radius rod bushes at the diff end were all distorted out of shape pan hard rod bushes I went throu 2 sets of those before seing the light. The rear faired much better except the the aframe bushes  now the only plastic junk in there is the diff end of the trailing arms  I had a heap of pics but there gone AWOL
What brand ?
IMO only SP make decent PU bushes, most anything else are the wrong duromoter (ie. generally too hard) and they only mimic the OE design bush, Fulcrum/SP redesign the style of bush in most spots and inevitably it's better.
rick130
22nd July 2013, 07:09 AM
Here's an SP front radius arm bush, can't find a photo of the rear trailing arm ones ATM.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/general-chat/45442d1333482333-sourcing-bushes-imga0289.jpg
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/technical-chatter/57189d1361842718-superior-engineering-superflex-arms-rovers-imga0290a.jpg
That circumferential groove allows a touch more flex with the radius arm.
Don 130
22nd July 2013, 08:32 AM
My 130 began to rear steer, and investigation showed the rear end of the link where it mounts to the axle had flogged the hole out on the axle mount. I welded the holes up, redrilled (with difficulty) and refitted all with new bolt and rubber bush. All good now.
Don.
lokka
22nd July 2013, 09:00 AM
The Fulcrum/SP bushes are the best thing you will ever fit to your rover suspension hands down they are the best all round poly bush and are far superior to factory rubber even if the lubricant dries out or washes off over time they still work effortlessly and if they squeak a quick spray with INOX with lanolin shuts them up :D
Super Cheap auto i found at one stage had the best price around even the local rep for fulcrum had to really struggle to beat their prices but that was about 6 years ago now they can be had off ebay so the price war will be even better for the buyer :D
Look here this is only about 25 bucks more than what i payed for the same kits for rangie and county 6 years back and it was the best price going at the time for the full kit 
Land Rover Defender 93 03 Front Rear Full Suspension Bush KIT Superpro | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Land-Rover-Defender-93-03-Front-Rear-FULL-Suspension-Bush-Kit-SuperPro-/130775302952?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e72d0c328)
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