Save a Fortune!!!

[nedflanders]

This has probably been covered but if you use these Coleman Disposable Lightweight Bottle - 465g - BCF (http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/products/Coleman-Disposable-Lightweight-Bottle-465g.aspx?pid=312040&menuFrom=20301#Cross)

Then buy one of these
Maccoupler Propane Refill Adapter LP Small Coleman GAS Cylinder Bottle Coupler | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MacCoupler-Propane-Refill-Adapter-Lp-Small-Coleman-Gas-Cylinder-Bottle-Coupler/251301464010?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D11%26meid%3D211332408706581357%26pid%3D1000 11%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D25129346 1162%26)

These work with normal Australian gas bottles and allow you to refill your disposable Coleman canisters.
A 9Kg bottle will refill one of these cannisters 15+times and at $10 a pop a considerable amount of money can be saved :D

[Blknight.aus]

every body say it with me...

Not legal..

if your going to do that do it right, buy the replacement adaptor hose that takes the place of the disposable bottle and then use a 1 or 1.5kg refillable bottle.

[nedflanders]

Jesus get a life FFS! A tip to save money, if you don't like it don't do it, perfectly safe as its an adaptor made specifically for doing it. If its illegal at least quote the relevant laws instead of looking like a knob. :mad:

[bee utey]

Wow, that looks dodgy as. Aren't most of the disposables isobutane? Not propane at all. Save lives not dollars.


I'll go with Blknight's recommendation.

[Ranga]

Here we go. We need a popcorn smilie!

[weeds]

pleanty of people decant out of the larger cylinders........and yes its not legal woopie doo, i'm sure we all bend the rules from time to time

my only quesiton is does the coleman cylinder have a bleed screw? this ensure you don't overfill the cylinder, if it doesn't have a bleed sscrew than i would use that type of cylinder.......infact being an ex-gas fitter i don't de-cant full stop but if you have enough commonsence about ya than all good i guess

now lets talk wheel spacers

[roverrescue]

bugger the wheel spacers - lets talk about running tubeless radials on 'fender rims that clearly say "tubed tyre only" ;)

S

[nedflanders]

The Coleman Cylinders have a PRV, you can bet with the American culture of sueing if one person got hurt they wouldn't sell them. It amazes me that no matter what you suggest the first person to jump up and down are the H&S nuts. Must be a blast living with them :D

[nedflanders]

Wow, that looks dodgy as. Aren't most of the disposables isobutane? Not propane at all. Save lives not dollars.


I'll go with Blknight's recommendation.

No the Coleman cylinders are Propane.

[bee utey]

OK I'll elaborate on my principal objection.

To get liquid out of a 9kg bottle you have to invert it. If you fully invert a used bottle any debris in it will* come out with the liquid and foul up your valves. Therefore you need to hold the 9kg bottle a little off vertical with the valve not quite lowest. Then you're connecting a little bottle rigidly to a delicately balanced 9kg bottle and then you have to turn on the tap. After that you have to remember the exact sequence of fitting removal or liquid LPG squirts out and burns your skin. If you're going to do this trick, make your own adaptor hose using a POL connector and 1 metre hose, and an inline tap and a coleman connector. Then you can put the big bottle up on a stand, and handle the small cylinder separately from the big bottle. You can isolate the small cylinder before disconnecting the adaptor, after which you return the bottle the right way up and bleed off the liquid after turning off the bottle tap.

Example hose:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LPG-Filler-Gun-Hose-To-Suit-BBQ-POL-Fittings-/330938745664?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d0d7c8340

Oh and this trick is far better with household 45kg cylinders, they are much cheaper per unit gas than 9kg bottles.

BTW without a bleed screw you always have to totally empty the small cylinder and you'll only ever get around 1/2 a fill unless you leave it standing for hours and risk a 100% fill. Bleed screws on refillable bottles are there for two reasons, pressure bleeding to allow filling and full level checking.

(* voice of experience here, 9kg bottles make good jerrycans for LPG only vehicles and this is the commonest problem people meet with inverting bbq cylinders. Happened to my big brothers RR only last month.)

[Blknight.aus]

Jesus get a life FFS! A tip to save money, if you don't like it don't do it, perfectly safe as its an adaptor made specifically for doing it. If its illegal at least quote the relevant laws instead of looking like a knob. :mad:

you mean apart from the very warning on the can your trying to refill?

and since you asked oh so nicely....
Try this on from the work cover documenation


Refillable gas cylinders, such as liquid petroleum gas (LPG) cylinders for barbecues or carbon dioxide (CO
2
) cylinders
for home brewing, must only be filled if they have a current, legible test mark of a certified gas cylinder test station.
The test mark indicates that the cylinder has been designed, design-registered, inspected, tested and can be legally
filled or refilled in accordance with Australian Standard (AS) 2030.

heres another

All LPG cylinders sold in Australia must meet strict specifications before they can be certified as safe to use for ten years. I'll let you find out which of the 7 states/territories governemtal regulations pages I pulled that from (its pretty much verbatim on all of them)

Portable cylinders can only be refilled legally if they have a valid ten year stamp on the collar, neck or foot ring. The stamp indicates the last time the cylinder was tested and shows the letter T followed by the month and year.
(thats the definition of the required date marking for the test and its from the standards)

The coleman style cans do not have
A, the stamp that certifies them as being safe for LPG and refilling
b, a operable control valve (its essentially a schreader valve)
c, a filling vent.
d, design approval for refilling or even having LPG in them
(I'll let you troll the regs to work out where b-d come from)

apart from that...
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/07/8.jpg
thats the instruction sheet that comes with them...

and nothing about that seems dodgy to you?

apart from the fact that it specifically says as point 6 that you dont use it to fill a different gas? (which you are if you're filling from generic LPG BBQ gas bottles)

or that you cant transport refilled cylinders?

[Homestar]

Here we go. We need a popcorn smilie!

Here you go Ranga...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/05/685.jpg (http://www.sherv.net/emoticons.html)

[nedflanders]

You really have got too much time on your hands, 'anal' springs to mind! Your not the H&S adviser for work are you? Bet its a real pain deciding which Hi Viz jacket to wear each morning :nazilock:

[bee utey]

Fools and their facial hair are soon parted.

[seano87]

You really have got too much time on your hands, 'anal' springs to mind! Your not the H&S adviser for work are you? Bet its a real pain deciding which Hi Viz jacket to wear each morning :nazilock:

Pretty sure Dave is actually a WHS advisers worst nightmare!

Having met him once, he is a actually a bloody sensible guy.

[pop058]

Fools and their facial hair are soon parted.


possibly as a result of a small explosion :D

[weeds]

a video on how to do
Home (http://www.maccoupler.com/)

notsure if this link is one page one
Propane Refill Adapter ALL Brass Copper Construction Tank Coupler Outdoor Stove | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321179458175'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

Dave....i'm sure you have done something illegal at some stagein your life??