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bob10
5th August 2013, 08:58 AM
Apparently the chatter around the terror networks is at the level of 9/11 Bob [ From NBC News]


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'Significant' al Qaeda threat remains unclear as embassy closures extended

NBC's Andrea Mitchell gives David Gregory the latest developments on the global terror alert affecting U.S. embassies worldwide.

By Kristen Welker and Daniel Arkin, NBC News
Top U.S. officials on Sunday said the exact nature of the suspected al Qaeda threat that temporarily shuttered key U.S. diplomatic posts across the Middle East and North Africa remains unclear, and that intelligence suggests the "significant" event could mean either one large attack or simultaneous attacks across the globe.
Meanwhile, officials late Sunday said 19 embassies and consulates would remain closed through next Saturday.
Officials told NBC News that the threat appears to be linked to Yemen, but State Department spokespeople have only confirmed that the warnings are generally tied to al Qaeda.
Yemen is home to perhaps the most dangerous terror network affiliate, known as al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). The lethal wing is considered responsible for several terrorist strikes on the United States, including the foiled Christmas Day 2009 attempt to bomb an airplane over Detroit.


Some European countries — including Britain, Germany, and France — temporarily shut down their embassies in Yemen as officials moved to tighten security.
Security officers and soldiers blocked roads outside Western embassies in the capital of Sanaa Sunday, only allowing residents through following thorough inspections, while troops with automatic rifles were on hand outside the French embassy, according to Reuters.
"There is a high level of coordination with the American side, and these measures have been taken due to fears of attacks by al Qaeda," a Yemeni security official told Reuters.
On Sunday, the State Department announced that "out of an abundance of caution," the closure of several embassies and consulates would be extended.
"Given that a number of our embassies and consulates were going to be closed in accordance with local custom and practice for the bulk of the week for the Eid celebration at the end of Ramadan, and out of an abundance of caution, we've decided to extend the closure of several embassies and consulates including a small number of additional posts," spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in a statement.
"This is not an indication of a new threat stream, merely an indication of our commitment to exercise caution and take appropriate steps to protect our employees including local employees and visitors to our facilities."
The closure extensions week include 15 posts that were already closed Sunday and four additional posts.
Posts in Abu Dhabi, Amman, Cairo, Riyadh, Dhahran, Jeddah, Doha, Dubai, Kuwait, Manama, Muscat, Sanaa, Tripoli, Antanarivo, Bujumbura, Djibouti, Khartoum, Kigali, and Port Louis are instructed to close for normal operations Monday, August 5 through Saturday, August 10, the State Department said.
U.S. offices in Algiers, Baghdad, Kabul and six other cities are authorized to reopen Monday.
Meanwhile, U.S. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle made the rounds on Sunday morning talk shows to shed light on the threat.
The threat represents the most serious in years and harkens back to the “chatter” that preceded the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, a top Republican lawmaker said Sunday, as officials at nearly two dozen U.S. embassies tightened security.
“The one thing we can talk about is the fact that there’s been an awful lot of chatter out there,” Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R.-Ga.), the ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Sunday morning on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” (http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/04/19861474-threats-against-embassies-very-reminiscent-of-pre-911-chatter?lite) He added that the chatter is “very reminiscent of what we saw pre-9/11.”
“This is the most serious threat that I’ve seen in the last several years,” Chambliss said.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/1425.jpgKhaled Elfiqi / EPA
A general view of the US Embassy in Cairo, Egypt. The USA have issued a warning to its citizens and travelers following message intercepts by senior Al Qaeda members discussing attacks against American targets, warning to avoid crowded areas such as stations and travel areas, after the US State Department announced plans to close dozens of US Embassies and Consulates in the Middle East and North Africa.


Rep. C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.), the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, told ABC’s “This Week” that the threat information intercepted from “high-level people in al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula” concerned a “major attack.”
Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), who heads the House Homeland Security subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence, told ABC that “al Qaeda is in many ways stronger than it was before 9/11, because it’s mutated and it spread and it can come at us from different directions.”

“The threat was specific as to how enormous it was going to be and also that certain dates were given,” King said.

Barefoot Dave
5th August 2013, 09:24 AM
And when nothing happens at all, we will be told it is a triumph of the Big Brother data-mining system!
meh!

Eevo
5th August 2013, 09:55 AM
Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a
charm.
Lisa: That's spacious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.

Barefoot Dave
5th August 2013, 10:33 AM
Q: How do you mess with 1,000s of 'Infidels' around the world, cause hundreds of extra flying hours for drones and overwatch fighters, shut down embasies across the globe and scare millions, WITHOUT using any resources or risk prosecution?
A: Make some phone calls to your mates.

In this day and age, probing is done with phones and key-strokes.
The trouble with ElInt is you still need HumInt to contextualise the data, otherwise you will perpetually imitate Chicken Little.

Disco Muppet
5th August 2013, 10:41 AM
Kind of feels like they've won without doing anything doesn't it?
Isn't that the point of terrorism? Instill fear and maximise disruption?

Barefoot Dave
5th August 2013, 10:55 AM
G'Day Muppet*waves*
Yep,spot on. Hearts and minds, one way or the other, is the key.

I'm not saying there is no success to be had, just that the timing is 'Interesting' given the bad publicity month that US Intel has had.

Disco Muppet
5th August 2013, 12:08 PM
G'Day Muppet*waves*
Yep,spot on. Hearts and minds, one way or the other, is the key.

I'm not saying there is no success to be had, just that the timing is 'Interesting' given the bad publicity month that US Intel has had.

Hey there Dave *nods*
That's an interesting point, perhaps this is a "we're still useful" type display.
Problem with SigIng type systems is they leave no room for context.
I.e, Echelon type system picks up chatter about a terrorist attack, puts it all over the media.
Joe blogs jumps on the phone/internet and starts talking with his mates about all this terrorist hoo-haa on the news, suddenly the keyword filters are being set off thousands of times a second.
No substitute for boots on the ground/eyes on IMHO. :D

Eevo
5th August 2013, 12:57 PM
sorry guys, my fault.

last week i was using TOR, with my endpoint in the middle east, and i googled how to bomb an american embassy. it was a typo, i meant to type how to build an american embassy.

Disco Muppet
5th August 2013, 01:16 PM
sorry guys, my fault.

last week i was using TOR, with my endpoint in the middle east, and i googled how to bomb an american embassy. it was a typo, i meant to type how to build an american embassy.

:Rolling: :Rolling:

bobslandies
5th August 2013, 03:50 PM
sorry guys, my fault.

last week i was using TOR, with my endpoint in the middle east, and i googled how to bomb an american embassy. it was a typo, i meant to type how to build an american embassy.

Turn off predictive text.:twisted:

Bob

Chucaro
5th August 2013, 06:07 PM
It is all about NSA eavesdropping and try to prove that spying on the friendly countries business it is necessary to stop terrorism.
What ever they do I doubt that they are going to convince Putin to give them Edward Snowden.