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Lotz-A-Landies
7th August 2013, 04:45 PM
I was going through sorting some images for the SME Museum and a series of photos intrigued me.
It was a number of images of a WWII NAZI German V2 rocket being dismounted from display in the grounds of the SME in Moorebank and being relocated to an alternate location in what appeared to be a public park. Probably in the Liverpool area.
Does anyone know of this piece of WWII history and does it still exist?
Diana
UncleHo
7th August 2013, 04:59 PM
Isn't that now at/in the AWM in Canberra
Lotz-A-Landies
7th August 2013, 05:07 PM
That would make sense.
Shows you how long it has been since I've been to the AWM! :BigCry:
snowbound
7th August 2013, 06:15 PM
That would make sense.
Shows you how long it has been since I've been to the AWM! :BigCry:
May be in the Treloar Annex in Mitchell? This is only open to the public on the odd occasion, possibly once a year. It has a lot of interesting stuff including a nice display of Landies! I may have some pics on my computer, I shall post them if i can find them!
Jez
snowbound
7th August 2013, 06:40 PM
That would make sense.
Shows you how long it has been since I've been to the AWM! :BigCry:
May be in the Treloar Annex in Mitchell? This is only open to the public on the odd occasion, possibly once a year. It has a lot of interesting stuff including a nice display of Landies! I may have some pics on my computer, I shall post them if i can find them!
Jez
DeeJay
7th August 2013, 07:25 PM
I believe they used the skeletons of most of them as playground equipment. I used to play in one in Box Hill as a kid after WW2.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/1292.jpg (http://www.google.com.au/url'sa=i&rct=j&q=playground+rocket+ship&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=F3FNRQRNvpvh4M&tbnid=Cp7i5zDpDXvU6M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.abc.net.au%2Flocalradio%2F2 009%2F09%2Fquirky-local-landmarks.html&ei=LCACUtmDKIqykgWqv4DoBA&bvm=bv.50310824,d.dGI&psig=AFQjCNEJ3NAQ-iN2QCWVw640Nixn-JMEJw&ust=1375957405649221)
snowbound
7th August 2013, 07:31 PM
I believe they used the skeletons of most of them as playground equipment. I used to play in one in Box Hill as a kid after WW2.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/1292.jpg (http://www.google.com.au/url'sa=i&rct=j&q=playground+rocket+ship&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=F3FNRQRNvpvh4M&tbnid=Cp7i5zDpDXvU6M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.abc.net.au%2Flocalradio%2F2 009%2F09%2Fquirky-local-landmarks.html&ei=LCACUtmDKIqykgWqv4DoBA&bvm=bv.50310824,d.dGI&psig=AFQjCNEJ3NAQ-iN2QCWVw640Nixn-JMEJw&ust=1375957405649221)
So your main childhood sickness was the "Doodlebug?"
Lotz-A-Landies
7th August 2013, 07:44 PM
I believe they used the skeletons of most of them as playground equipment. I used to play in one in Box Hill as a kid after WW2.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/1292.jpg (http://www.google.com.au/url'sa=i&rct=j&q=playground+rocket+ship&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=F3FNRQRNvpvh4M&tbnid=Cp7i5zDpDXvU6M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.abc.net.au%2Flocalradio%2F2 009%2F09%2Fquirky-local-landmarks.html&ei=LCACUtmDKIqykgWqv4DoBA&bvm=bv.50310824,d.dGI&psig=AFQjCNEJ3NAQ-iN2QCWVw640Nixn-JMEJw&ust=1375957405649221)Hmmm
I rather think those ones would have let all the rocket fuel out!
http://www.constable.ca/caah/v2a.jpg
101RRS
7th August 2013, 07:58 PM
There was a V2 in the AWM Annex last December when I was there last.
Garry
DeeJay
7th August 2013, 08:48 PM
So your main childhood sickness was the "Doodlebug?"
:D:D
Lotz-A-Landies
7th August 2013, 09:00 PM
So your main childhood sickness was the "Doodlebug?"
Just being pedantic but the doodlebug was the V1 "Buzz bomb"
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
JDNSW
7th August 2013, 09:03 PM
I believe they used the skeletons of most of them as playground equipment. I used to play in one in Box Hill as a kid after WW2.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/1292.jpg (http://www.google.com.au/url'sa=i&rct=j&q=playground+rocket+ship&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=F3FNRQRNvpvh4M&tbnid=Cp7i5zDpDXvU6M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.abc.net.au%2Flocalradio%2F2 009%2F09%2Fquirky-local-landmarks.html&ei=LCACUtmDKIqykgWqv4DoBA&bvm=bv.50310824,d.dGI&psig=AFQjCNEJ3NAQ-iN2QCWVw640Nixn-JMEJw&ust=1375957405649221)
While very indirectly patterned after the V-2, these playground rockets have no other connection to them. My sons in their preteens enjoyed climbing up the outside of them, much to their mother's distress!
John
DeeJay
7th August 2013, 09:16 PM
While very indirectly patterned after the V-2, these playground rockets have no other connection to them. My sons in their preteens enjoyed climbing up the outside of them, much to their mother's distress!
John
No No John -- you mean to tell me my father was kidding me all those years ago ??
Lotz-A-Landies
7th August 2013, 09:31 PM
No No John -- you mean to tell me my father was kidding me all those years ago ??
Father knows best!
I remember my father telling me he and mum used to do ice ballet and I believed them. How dissillusioned was I when I found out it wasn't true.
snowbound
8th August 2013, 07:02 AM
Just being pedantic but the doodlebug was the V1 "Buzz bomb"
http://knovelblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/buzzbomb.gif
I actually knew that, but the chance of the pun was too tempting! The V1 was launched from France, aimed at London and simply flew until it ran out of fuel. as long as the poor blighters below could hear it it was OK! They were very effective as our fastest fighters could only attempt an interception but never really had much chance at hitting them as they were so fast. The later V2 were the first ballistic rockets they went briefly into orbit and made no noise on re-entry. 1 second a neighborhood was there, the next it was obliterated, no sirens or warning of any sort, I'm not sure that many were deployed as they were developed quite late on in the war. Interesting stuff!
Pickles2
8th August 2013, 07:45 AM
I actually knew that, but the chance of the pun was too tempting! The V1 was launched from France, aimed at London and simply flew until it ran out of fuel. as long as the poor blighters below could hear it it was OK! They were very effective as our fastest fighters could only attempt an interception but never really had much chance at hitting them as they were so fast. The later V2 were the first ballistic rockets they went briefly into orbit and made no noise on re-entry. 1 second a neighborhood was there, the next it was obliterated, no sirens or warning of any sort, I'm not sure that many were deployed as they were developed quite late on in the war. Interesting stuff!
It is indeed very interesting stuff.
As an Englishman, I have known lots of people who experienced the V1 & V2......anyone living in London during WW11 would know all about them..my mother in law's family home was obliterated by a V1...and yes, when ya couldn't hear them....you had a problem.
As a little boy growing up in England after the war, we knew all about V1s & V2s, Focke Wolf 190s, Messchersmitt 109s, Spitfires, Hurricanes, Lancasters etc.
Interesting to note that the designer of the V2, Werner Von Braun, along with his team, after surrendering to the Americans, went to the U.S., and put the Americans on the moon.
Some of the German scientists are still around...one was extradited to Germany very recently, on a charge of using slave labour during WW11.
Cheers, Pickles.
Lotz-A-Landies
8th August 2013, 10:43 AM
It always gets me that the Europeans are still chasing down supposed NAZIs.
If these scientists are still around today, they would have been very young, very junior scientists in WWII and in positions where they just did what their supervisors told them to do, to not do it would have been treason with imprisonment or execution as the result.
The architect and NAZI Armaments Minister, Albert Speer was in charge of production and the one responsible for the slave workers. Even he only did a few years in prison before he was released and spent his retirement in New Guniea.
How many of you have a Hugo Boss suit? He was the tailor to the NAZIs, designed the SS Uniform, made uniforms for all the German services and used slave labour to do it.
p38arover
8th August 2013, 01:21 PM
I'm pretty sure I have a pic of one that I took at the AWM in the late 60s or early 70s.
Lotz-A-Landies
8th August 2013, 01:30 PM
Hi Ron
It appears that it would have been about that time the pics were taken (B&W images), but the relocation was to an outdoor site which looked like a public Park, no buildings.
Perhaps if it's the same one it moved twice.
Diana
Pickles2
8th August 2013, 01:36 PM
It always gets me that the Europeans are still chasing down supposed NAZIs.
If these scientists are still around today, they would have been very young, very junior scientists in WWII and in positions where they just did what their supervisors told them to do, to not do it would have been treason with imprisonment or execution as the result.
The architect and NAZI Armaments Minister, Albert Speer was in charge of production and the one responsible for the slave workers. Even he only did a few years in prison before he was released and spent his retirement in New Guniea.
How many of you have a Hugo Boss suit? He was the tailor to the NAZIs, designed the SS Uniform, made uniforms for all the German services and used slave labour to do it.
I've read books on all these guys, including Speer....but NEW GUINEA...never heard of it...ever. Where did you read that?....I'm curious, because this time in History is one of great interest to me...always has been.
Cheers, Pickles.
Lotz-A-Landies
8th August 2013, 01:59 PM
Didn't read it but it was in a doco on Speer shown on the Hitler Channel on Foxtel, it surprised me at the time and now I too will have to check my myth/facts! :o
DeeJay
8th August 2013, 02:08 PM
I've read books on all these guys, including Speer....but NEW GUINEA...never heard of it...ever. Where did you read that?....I'm curious, because this time in History is one of great interest to me...always has been.
Cheers, Pickles.
This BBC Series was aired recently on ABC, very interesting ( I have my serious hat on today:angel:)
blitz street - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/results'search_query=blitz+street&oq=blitz+street&gs_l=youtube.1.0.0l9.11332.17677.0.22193.32.18.0.2 .2.5.225.2556.3j10j3.16.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube .1na9-mBydXA)
And a short sequence from it.
1t of ANFO (1000kg) [Simulation of V2 rocket explosion] - YouTube
Jeff
8th August 2013, 06:21 PM
There was a V2 in the AWM Annex last December when I was there last.
Garry
According to a mate who works for the AWM, it is still there.
Jeff
:rocket:
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