Windscreen price RACQ for D2

[WingsOfToa]

I got stuck behind a truck with the tonneau covers spilling crap everywhere a few weeks back, monday, and got a few chips, and a hazy effect. One chip decided to run this morning, so dropped into RACQ workshop at Lawnton.

The fella said that they would like it to be in the shop as they need 2 guys, and need to remove the bonnet. As mine isnt a genuine screen (I have 1 free windscreen a year) they need to fit an after market in, but will replace the trim up the top of screen for free.

He also found both side column trims that are loose-ish, which are not covered, and may be just clips, or the whole trim could be damaged inside.

Since Mrs WingsOfToa is one of the head honchos of RACQ, I got a price for a genuine screen, both side column panels, and top trim fitted for $240.

Is a genuine screen worth paying the dollars for? Or should I just claim my non genuine screen and pay for the clips, or trims if need?

The price sounds good, and he sounds like a good guy, but am now wondering if I pay for a genuine, then next screen replaced can then be fitted genuine for free.

What do ya reckon?

[TJS-70Y]

Genuine all the way. The difference between them is massive. And that is a very cheap price for a genuine screen.

Thomas

[Yorkie]

i am just going through this with Youi, they have approved genuine screen but obriens say will take 2-3 weeks to arrive ex uk.
after all the reading on here i can wait. :cool:

[WingsOfToa]

Thanks matey, guess i'll be making that call then.

I dont know any better and drive with polaroids, looking forward to seing the difference..

Thanks Yorkie, I was told there may be a wait, I'll let you know how long they tell me..

[jafir]

I never had any issues with the aftermarket heated screen on my D2a, but I have heard stories of them leaking because they didn't fit well, but I wonder if they just weren't installed well.

Also, sometimes you can get an aftermarket that is pilkington brand, which is OE, but just without the land rover oval.

[WingsOfToa]

Looks like there has been some miscommunication (im sure I heard genuine). Price is 500 bux for genuine.

Ive just got off the blower and these are the things I was told, if anyone can relay whether I am being spun yarns would be good, as my wife can sort these issues out.

Firstly the timeline is about right Yorkie, 3 weeks ish for a UK delivery. Unfortunately I dont want to risk having a windscreen on my lap, so am getting a GJames one tomorrow morning.

This is what I was told: Land Rover dont make screens anymore, (not sure if its just for the Disco or all others). They take them to a glass mob in the UK that has the stamp, and an aftermarket is kilned and then fitted out of factory.

Secondly: The aussie ones ie: "aftermarket" are just as good as genuine as they meet aussie standards, I asked whether they met Land Rover standards, but couldnt get a definate answer.

I did make sure that the people I was dealing with, understood who they were talking to, and that I am fussy with my cars, and am happy to pay for better quality, (please dont think im trying to bignote myself) its not my intention.

So can anyone confirm or deny what ive been told for future reference? RACQ is a great motoring club, (looking forward to getting our gold membership in 20 something years), and I just want to know whether the information im getting is correct

[Yorkie]

have a search on here, in particular "fluids" posts from last year.
the original glass is pilkington opticool, now google that.
i just told youi the land rover glass is better for sealing and a/c operation so i wanted original, they agreed. :)

[WingsOfToa]

Ive been a bit of a pain to the boys at the windscreen shop. But theyve guaranteed that the aftermarket im getting has to meet worldwide UV ratings, and is not a thinner glass. Its exactly the same as LR specs. I won't know anyway I guess as mine is aftermarket, and ive been happy with it.

I dont have the luxury of waiting, as the crack dosnt feel right to me, so needs to be done.

Apparently Land Rover used initially a mob called XXX or triple X, then swapped over to Pilks after hassles.

[schuy1]

That is correct, Pilkington is the maker of the genuine artical under the "Opticool" name. The tint on opticool is said to make the sensor for the aircon( the little blackish Daleck head in the middle of the dash) work properly. Try sticking some tape or cover it up and feel how that affects the little sucker! :D Mine is a non gen screen and I have seen it beside another D2 with a gen screen and mine is much lighter tint . It will be very unlikely that your screen will "cave in" on you! :oUnless the crack is through both glass layers and even then most unlikely . If you can I would hold off for the real deal. :)
Cheers Scott

[WingsOfToa]

Bugga, now im really confused. Thanks though Scott:-)

If this sensor is an issue, then I will get the screen fitted, and argue the point later.

I was told a few hours ago that the screen im getting is 781bux. Land Rover one was 520, and an Optikool one was 960bux..

[WingsOfToa]

Just wondering since you mentioned the daleck thing, ive placed a compass over the top of that, and my aircon isnt cold. Always thought it needed a regas and was gonna do that next.

Could this be the problem?

[jafir]

Just wondering since you mentioned the daleck thing, ive placed a compass over the top of that, and my aircon isnt cold. Always thought it needed a regas and was gonna do that next.

Could this be the problem?

Sunlight sensors usually just tell the auto a/c systems to behave differently. Blow harder, or run a couple of degrees colder than the set number, something like that. If you cannot get it to blow cold even by turning the temperature controls down more, you've got something else going on.

[schuy1]

As jafir says. The degree of tint just alters its behavior . the compass would just act like darker tint by shading it. In addition to a regas check your blend motors and doors are working correctly. There is a post on here about adjusting them.
Cheers Scott
Found it :)
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-2/166494-climate-control-why-so.html#post1831097

[mattyg]

Get a genuine one. I had mine replaced with an aftermarket one and the car got very noticibly hotter when parked for a length of time and it was also very hot when the sun was comming through whilst driving. The aftermarket screen then leaked due to a dodgy install and I hassled them about putting a genuine one in.

It took me a couple of days on the phone trying to convince insurance company that the aftermarket one was inferior ( my policy states that aftermarket can be used if it meets the specs). Ended up getting a service manager from
Austral Land Rover in Brissy to talk to insurance and send them pics of a genuine screen from another D2 that was in their yard.

It's was worth it. The car stays so much cooler now. And best thing is now I have a precedent should it happen again.

[bell1975]

x 3 on waiting for a Genuine Optikool screen.

You'll be able to tell if the crack has penetrated through both layers of glass by lightly dragging your fingernail across the crack. If you can't feel it then the crack is probably on the other side....

I had dramas with an aftermarket screen a while back. It leaked, although I put that down to the dodgy install. I don't know enough about the original windscreens in these vehicles to know whether the curvature of the aftermarket ones varies that greatly that it can cause leaks. I do know that the installers that put in my current one (different mob to the ones that did the first two) told me that the D2 is particularly tricky as there needs to be a double bead of sealant run around the mounting area - and most installers only put one).

If you don't follow through on the genuine screen what I can suggest is that you try and see if the installers can show you pictures/examples of the options available - I found that one of the brands that was put into mine had a very dark band at the top and the other didn't. If you are tall it is not enjoyable having the bottom of the band intrude on your line of vision. I was conscious of tilting my head forward to try and see under it. I made sure that the one they finally put in had a lighter band.

[WingsOfToa]

Thanks bell1975, Ive asked if I can take a look whilst the screen is done, as long as im not in the way. I want to check to see if there is any rust around the screen as the hood lining was replaced, and I had a few drops of water come in, if it rained for days. I fixed that by pumping sika in the holes that connect the pillar trim to the guttering.

The guy seems to be very knowledgable in LRs, he's a pom, and so far everything about fitting windscreens ive been reading on here, he has stated (apart from the confusion about the different prices in screens, I still dont get that). I feel bad hassling him. I guess if its wrong, it has a life warranty, and they can replace with the Optikool one. I trust RACQ as its a car club that is well respected, not bagging other insurers out.

Thanks schuy1/Scott, youve taught me another word (had to google blend motors). The amount of new words I have from this forum is incredible! I hope other stuff dosnt start falling out me noggin cause its too full ;-) Glad I dont own an RR, the blend motors dont seem to user friendly.

I shot a temp gun on all aircon outlets just then, and they all register 24 point something. Need aircon gas..

[WingsOfToa]

Screens in. Is a non genuine. Im finding it hard to get used to it today as it feels like driving without one.

Found a bit of rust inside top lip. I'll need to get that looked at.

Am gonna take it for a drive to a few dealers here that have discos for sale and compare looks, if they have originals.

If I find a substantial difference, they can pull it out and give me a proper one...

The black tint up the top of the screen is almost non existant, but it seems to work? Very sunny here today, and good to compare with my old one.

Cheers,
Mik

[Yorkie]

i am just going through this with Youi, they have approved genuine screen but obriens say will take 2-3 weeks to arrive ex uk.
after all the reading on here i can wait. :cool:

original windscreen arrived, o'briens called to say they broke the plenum under the screen, there fault and have ordered a new one so all will be ready tomorrow. :)