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lewy
18th August 2013, 10:52 AM
Just had a tyre repaired that had a 4 inch nail through it,As per the pic it appears that they have just used a rubber spagetti repair.my question is it acceptable for the tyre repair place to just use this method i would have thought that at least they would have to put a patch on the inside of the tyre,And yes it is flat 2 days after the repair having not been put back on the vehicle.


http://www.aulro.com/app/data/500/thumbs/tyre2.JPG (http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/23393/title/tyre2/cat/500)

101RRS
18th August 2013, 11:24 AM
That looks like a proper repair (it is not a plug out of a self repair type kit) - the plug should look like a mushroom - the top of the mushroom is inside the tyre and forms the patch on the inside and the stork of the much room comes through the hole to provide additional sealing.

Garry

towe0609
18th August 2013, 11:35 AM
I'd take it back and ask them to 'have another go' - they might take a bit more care second time round and hopefully repair it so it holds air.


it is flat 2 days after the repair having not been put back on the vehicle.

wrinklearthur
18th August 2013, 11:41 AM
There are plugs available that have an integrated stem and patch.
The stem is pushed through from the inside and the patch tidies up the repair on the inside.

Get a bit of soapy water and brush some around where the sidewall of the tyre meets the bead and check for leakage there as well as the repair itself.
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Cobber
18th August 2013, 12:49 PM
Looks a bit rough, but doesn't look like they bodged it. Clearly something's still not right though if it's not holding air.

lewy
18th August 2013, 12:54 PM
thanks all,wasn't sure about the method and style of patch used these days.I will be taking it back tomorrow.you mean they dont use the Vulcanising patch anymore.

lebanon
18th August 2013, 03:16 PM
I have a relative who works for a major tire manufacturer he told me that this type of repair should be avoided unless in extreme situations other than that patches is the proper method to repair a tire.

101RRS
18th August 2013, 03:26 PM
I have a relative that works for a major tire manufacturer who told me that this type of repair should be avoided unless in extreme situations other than that patches is the proper method to repair a tire.

But the above type of repair is how tyres are repaired and patch and plug is the standard.

Garry

Blknight.aus
18th August 2013, 03:46 PM
thats still a plug patch and is intended to be temporary, but its less temporary than the string stuff with glue.

the correct method means demounting the tyre, inspecting preparing the inside of the tyre for repair work, and applying an internal patch.

Id be checking for other leaks before I took it back it may be as simple as the valve stem has unseated or the valve core failed to seat.

101RRS
18th August 2013, 04:02 PM
the correct method means demounting the tyre, inspecting preparing the inside of the tyre for repair work, and applying an internal patch.

That is how all my plug/patches have been done with the internal mushroom patch being glued. The area is cleaned and roughened, then glue appled and the plug pulled through from the inside, pulling the internal patch up to the inside of the tyre and glue.

Not seen it done, but is as explained when my last repair was done.

Garry

Blknight.aus
18th August 2013, 04:08 PM
yep, still not the proper repair as it adds no strength to the carcase, the proper patches are quite large,

http://www.beadelltours.com.au/tyre_report_2012.html

have a read on there, about halfway down

Observations from 2012
Failed "Rubber Only" Tyre Patch

and then further down shows a full blown repair., Remember that tyre shops are only supposed to repair the main area of the treadface and arent supposed to repair on the shoulders or sidewalls.

lewy
18th August 2013, 06:54 PM
I certainly paid for a full blown repair,I could have put a plug in it myself,If that is what it is.I will ask tomorrow.

superquag
18th August 2013, 07:36 PM
yep, still not the proper repair as it adds no strength to the carcase, the proper patches are quite large,

Beadell Tours - 2012 Tyre & Tube Report (http://www.beadelltours.com.au/tyre_report_2012.html)

have a read on there, about halfway down

Observations from 2012
Failed "Rubber Only" Tyre Patch

and then further down shows a full blown repair., Remember that tyre shops are only supposed to repair the main area of the treadface and arent supposed to repair on the shoulders or sidewalls.

Many thanks for the Beadell reference. - Well worth reading the complete site.

- And they use Land Rovers ... :p:p:p

Frm my own experience, cross-plies stood up very well against paddock damage/staking, on our farm utes and cars. (Very long time ago...:eek:)