Here they go again...

[DasLandRoverMan]

For those who've missed it, once again some in the 101 club seem to have trouble with arses and elbows.

I did like Les Adams contribution though...

http://www.101club.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7444

[Mick_Marsh]

Hmmmm.....
Yes.
Some time ago, someone in the 101 club sent me an email. In this email he said "In the 101 club, a lot of the members are handbags." I have no idea what that means but I am beginning to.
They certainly are a strange lot. I put it down to cultural differences.

The servo unit described in that thread, I refer to as the brake booster. I assisted Alien in fixing the brake booster on the Inter. Seemed a pretty straight forward job.

[sheerluck]

Handbag is a good description. Stuffed with their own self importance.

Small minded, happy to bicker at the drop of a hat, they lurch from committee meeting to committee meeting with their sole worry in life being what variety of biscuits are being served at those meetings. :o

[Sitec]

Very amusing. Have also been following this, what's more amusing is that said 'Hand Bag' is not currently a club member!!! :D

[Mick_Marsh]

I am a member of the club and encourage the 101 owners I meet to join it. There is, however, a committee member who is undoing my efforts and driving people away.
There are a few people in the club and on the forum who are sullying the name of the club by carrying on in such a way as demonstrated in this thread. Who would join a band of tossers?
Before the end of the membership period they had over four hundred members. So far in this membership period, less than half have rejoined.
I reckon, if we got all the 101 owners in Australia to join, we'd be just about half the membership. That'd give the moaners something to post about.

[Homestar]

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The servo unit described in that thread, I refer to as the brake booster. I assisted Alien in fixing the brake booster on the Inter. Seemed a pretty straight forward job.

Yeah, it's not rocket science, and if you can get the thing apart you've done the hard part. You would think the way they were carrying on that someone was replacing the drums with saucepans...


I am a member of the club and encourage the 101 owners I meet to join it. There is, however, a committee member who is undoing my efforts and driving people away.
There are a few people in the club and on the forum who are sullying the name of the club by carrying on in such a way as demonstrated in this thread. Who would join a band of tossers?
Before the end of the membership period they had over four hundred members. So far in this membership period, less than half have rejoined.
I reckon, if we got all the 101 owners in Australia to join, we'd be just about half the membership. That'd give the moaners something to post about.

Nice thought, but I won't be spending my hard earned there again. The fact they lock up most of the forum unless you are paid up is stupid as well. As unfortunate as it is, while they carry on like this, their days are numbered...

I'm sure that some of them must check out this forum and see that we are talking about them like this - why don't they wake up and smell the roses.

[Sitec]

You would think the way they were carrying on that someone was replacing the drums with saucepans...

If you were to use Le Cruset they'd look smart... You have a choice of red or blue too... Deeper than 101 drums so we could use truck shoes and have better stoppers too.....

Oh, hang on, we'd have modified it from standard... That might invalidate the warrantee, cause concern for the insurers, and upset someone!! :D

Jokes aside, it is a pity as there is a lot of good info there, some that I'd love to add too, and some I'd like to know more about!! Still giggling about the saucepans.. Wonder if Jon's upgraded master cylinder would keep up with them!

[Homestar]

Red would look good...:D

[Homestar]

Maybe I'm wrong here, but how would anyone know you have even changed the booster anyway? My insurance company had to google 'Land Rover 101' to know what they were going to insure, even though I'm pretty sure there are more than 1 101's insured by them.

Even if the vehicle was involved in a serious accident - unless a brake failure had caused it, then the investigators wouldn't even worry about it - they check the brake system, if they find it was in operable order, then they move on.

Complete paranoia in my opinion. I will be doing a booster upgrade at some point - who will I upset by doing that?

[DasLandRoverMan]

Red would look good...:D

Red ones make em go faster...

[Mick_Marsh]

Red ones make em go faster...
Not down here, mate.
Red ones make them stop quicker.
And they make the car look fully sick.
(It's a cultural thing.)

[Sitec]

"Fully Sick" ..... Love it!! Now then, who's going to be the first to post a link to this thread in 'said thread' over there? Das.......? :wasntme:

[DasLandRoverMan]

So how comes (the Australian) Kevin 'Bloody' Wilson refers to a car that's 'faster than yours, 'cause 'ims a red one' in 'living next door to Alan'?

livin next door to allan - YouTube (http://youtu.be/6_M5geUtb2Y) <- if you've never heard it.

Or is that a different cultural thing?

[Mick_Marsh]

So how comes (the Australian) Kevin 'Bloody' Wilson refers to a car that's 'faster than yours, 'cause 'ims a red one' in 'living next door to Alan'?

livin next door to allan - YouTube (http://youtu.be/6_M5geUtb2Y) <- if you've never heard it.

Or is that a different cultural thing?
Yep. A different cultural thing. Everybody knows red cars go faster but......
anyone with a rex (WRX), HSV or FPV will understand
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=64638&stc=1&d=1377335022

[jazzaD1]

how about these? haha
Brembo Caliper Cover | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/bhp/brembo-caliper-cover)

[101RRS]

I am not sure what people's in the 101 club are on about - boosters can be rebuilt as can master cylinders from freely available parts.

In early 2009 I put my booster into ACT Brakes for both the be rebuilt - they sent it to Sydney and I picked it back in Canberra the next day all rebuilt and ready to go - still in and no issues.

So I take it that 101 specific parts are not needed if it they can be rebuilt overnight in Sydney from parts in stock.

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

how about these? haha
Brembo Caliper Cover | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/bhp/brembo-caliper-cover)
Now they are fully sick. Got to get them for the hybrid. I'll have to chrome the sunraiser rims. Then I can hold my head high cruising around the northern burbs with the doof doof.

[Mick_Marsh]

I am not sure what people's in the 101 club are on about - boosters can be rebuilt as can master cylinders from freely available parts.

In early 2009 I put my booster into ACT Brakes for both the be rebuilt - they sent it to Sydney and I picked it back in Canberra the next day all rebuilt and ready to go - still in and no issues.

So I take it that 101 specific parts are not needed if it they can be rebuilt overnight in Sydney from parts in stock.

Garry
The previous owner of mine had it rebuilt somewhere in Sydney.
Wish I knew where.

[101 Ron]

There is a mob in Sydney who overhaul vacuum brake gear and other things.
I have the phone number at work somewhere.

[bobslandies]

Simon,

You could try these guys in SA:
Power Brakes South Australia for brake parts and service you can't get anywhere else (http://www.powerbrakes.com.au/)

Garry and Mick,

The company in Sydney is:
Ratcliff Brake Services (Sales) Pty Ltd., 46 Adderley St East, Silverwater, 2128. Ph. 96472177.

I googled it and used to deal with them, so presume they are still in business. Very happy with their work in the past.

Bob

[123rover50]

I just recieved three rebuilt boosters from Hydroboost to put on the 6x6 FC. They came back looking like new.
Terry on 03 54800886. He does Mastervacs too.

Didiman

[Disco Muppet]

Now they are fully sick. Got to get them for the hybrid. I'll have to chrome the sunraiser rims. Then I can hold my head high cruising around the northern burbs with the doof doof.

Need a blow-off valve too Mick

[Mick_Marsh]

Need a blow-off valve too Mick
Now ya talkin. I see you're a dab hand at it.

[00ec25]

I am not sure what people's in the 101 club are on about - boosters can be rebuilt as can master cylinders from freely available parts.
Indeed they can and the Club has the tools to do so however the UK has (and enforces) rules about product liability meaning that if the club supplied rebuilt safety critical items and one failed our insurance cover would be invalid and the club would be bankrupted.

it is therefore much safer for the club not to supply them. bearing in mind that the club operates as a formal company whose own rules forbid it to jeopardise the members as they would be liable if it was bankrupted.

If Australian rules (or attitudes) are more lax then so be it, as you know from the other thread individuals (or their companies) within the UK may offer rebuilds themselves, but that is their own commercial decision and it is up to them to check if their insurance cover would be valid. I can say with certainty that the club's is not and there is no commercial sanity for the Club in rectifying that position

[101RRS]

Indeed they can and the Club has the tools to do so however the UK has (and enforces) rules about product liability meaning that if the club supplied rebuilt safety critical items and one failed our insurance cover would be invalid and the club would be bankrupted.

it is therefore much safer for the club not to supply them. bearing in mind that the club operates as a formal company whose own rules forbid it to jeopardise the members as they would be liable if it was bankrupted.

If Australian rules (or attitudes) are more lax then so be it, as you know from the other thread individuals (or their companies) within the UK may offer rebuilds themselves, but that is their own commercial decision and it is up to them to check if their insurance cover would be valid. I can say with certainty that the club's is not and there is no commercial sanity for the Club in rectifying that position

We are not talking about backyard operators here - we are talking major brake companies who are able to rebuild these things - the 101 club modifies other gear to fit (doesn't it sell modified series 3 units - I don't really know as I no longer have anything to do with the 101 Club) - might be legal over there but would be considered questionable here.

The point of the post was based on comments here, that people on the 101 club forum were claiming these 101 components were not rebuildable and 101 club supplied components had to be used when clearly they are rebuildable - in Aust the practices of the 101 club could be considered anti competitive and investigated by the ACCC.

Garry

[chazza]

Indeed they can and the Club has the tools to do so however the UK has (and enforces) rules about product liability meaning that if the club supplied rebuilt safety critical items and one failed our insurance cover would be invalid and the club would be bankrupted.

it is therefore much safer for the club not to supply them. bearing in mind that the club operates as a formal company whose own rules forbid it to jeopardise the members as they would be liable if it was bankrupted.



Thank you for clarifying the legal position in the UK - in Australia the onus of responsibility for failed components, usually remains on the manufacturer not the end-user, or in this case a car-club.

However, I think what most people here couldn't understand, was the comment by a forum member that the booster cannot be repaired, when they quite obviously can be.

Anyway; it is a good reminder to us all, that quality repairs and parts for a safety-system are a must, and dodgy repairs or parts, can put ours and others lives at risk,

Cheers Charlie