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herrBlick
26th August 2013, 11:44 AM
As you may know I have spoilt my self by test driving a new D4,
But all was not least as I just got the engine remapped at Ritters,
Great stuff indeed quite nippy compared to before, the Chap told me that they had been ripping a lot of Chips out D3 s as they where giving trouble to the car,
Very happy indeed
Pickles2
26th August 2013, 02:36 PM
As you may know I have spoilt my self by test driving a new D4,
But all was not least as I just got the engine remapped at Ritters,
Great stuff indeed quite nippy compared to before, the Chap told me that they had been ripping a lot of Chips out D3 s as they where giving trouble to the car,
Very happy indeed
What sort of remapping do they do? Any idea whether they do Puma Defender stuff?
Cheers, Pickles.
herrBlick
26th August 2013, 02:39 PM
You should just given em a call, they are very friendly
Pickles2
26th August 2013, 03:48 PM
You should just given em a call, they are very friendly
Yes, I've seen their website & passed their premises thousands of times...haven't even got our "90" yet (ordered,another 3 ms to wait!) so I guess unless I pick up some info on the Forum, I'll just wait till we've taken delivery.
Do you have a particular person there that you prefer?
Cheers, Pickles.
herrBlick
26th August 2013, 04:09 PM
Yes, I've seen their website & passed their premises thousands of times...haven't even got our "90" yet (ordered,another 3 ms to wait!) so I guess unless I pick up some info on the Forum, I'll just wait till we've taken delivery.
Do you have a particular person there that you prefer?
Cheers, Pickles.
Yes well Its the guy at the front desk with the gray ponytail his name is christopher I think..lovely fella
NavyDiver
26th August 2013, 06:51 PM
Yes well Its the guy at the front desk with the gray ponytail his name is christopher I think..lovely fella
Thats Craig with the grey hair & rats tail:D ( Just kidding mate), Jason younger gent and Owen the guru of all. :D
Rohan
26th August 2013, 07:30 PM
Yes well Its the guy at the front desk with the gray ponytail his name is christopher I think..lovely fella
Trust you to remember the haircut but not the name...........
herrBlick
26th August 2013, 07:32 PM
Well it was an impressive ponytail
Rohan
26th August 2013, 07:34 PM
Yes well Its the guy at the front desk with the gray ponytail his name is christopher I think..lovely fella
 
Trust you to remember the haircut but not the name...........
101RRS
26th August 2013, 07:40 PM
Sorry a bit confused - what did you get chipped - a D4??  I thought you haven't got one yet.
Garry
herrBlick
27th August 2013, 06:14 AM
No I got my D3 remapped, I was saying I spoilt my self by taking a D4 for a test drive, so bloody nippy and nimble, compared to the D3
101RRS
27th August 2013, 10:29 AM
Oh ok - did you consider the BAS remap which does seem to be the benchmark (best ?) for D3 maps.  I have one on my RRS and I find it particularly good.
Cheers
Garry
Pickles2
27th August 2013, 11:25 AM
BAS (U.K.?) seem to have an excellent reputation, but doesn't the vehicle have to be individually tuned?
I guess what I'm trying to say is how would you get a B.A.S. tune in Australia?
Cheers, Pickles.
101RRS
27th August 2013, 11:33 AM
Using either a Nanocom (or equivalent) or using BAS equipment you copy the standard map on your car and email it to BAS who reads it and remaps it to your requirements and then emails it back where you upload it to your car.  You retain both map files and can revert to the original when any work is required on the car.
Garry
Pickles2
27th August 2013, 01:16 PM
Using either a Nanocom (or equivalent) or using BAS equipment you copy the standard map on your car and email it to BAS who reads it and remaps it to your requirements and then emails it back where you upload it to your car.  You retain both map files and can revert to the original when any work is required on the car.
 
Garry
Thanks for that.
But that still doesn't enable the tune to be "individually" tuned to your particular engine does it....or does it! It simply means that you have an "upgraded" ECU, from which the engine takes its orders?
I would've thought that the engine would need to be tuned & "adjusted" on a dyno, to get the best results?
Cheers, Pickles.
101RRS
27th August 2013, 01:36 PM
Thanks for that.
But that still doesn't enable the tune to be "individually" tuned to your particular engine does it....or does it! It simply means that you have an "upgraded" ECU, from which the engine takes its orders?
I would've thought that the engine would need to be tuned & "adjusted" on a dyno, to get the best results?
Cheers, Pickles.
Send an email to BAS and find out Diesel performance tuning and economy remap chip tuning for Landrover Defender Discovery TD5 Puma TDV6 TDV8 | Diesel tuning and performance remap for Landrovers (http://bellautoservices.co.uk/)
herrBlick
27th August 2013, 04:45 PM
Looked into that ? It's what Ritters do I think?
I had to wait as they downloaded my **** from my car and the send it off to get redone and then they uploaded it to my car ,
Sound about the same,
Anyway car rips along now ....love it
101RRS
27th August 2013, 06:52 PM
Looked into that ? It's what Ritters do I think?
I had to wait as they downloaded my **** from my car and the send it off to get redone and then they uploaded it to my car ,
Sound about the same,
Anyway car rips along now ....love it
Do you still have a copy of your original map so that the new map can be removed when your car goes in for work.  If not your new map can be overwritten and you loose it.
herrBlick
27th August 2013, 09:05 PM
Ummmmmmm....I don't think so...I will be taking it into Ritters from now on anyway , very friendly out there
101RRS
27th August 2013, 10:45 PM
Ummmmmmm....I don't think so...I will be taking it into Ritters from now on anyway , very friendly out there
And what if you are elsewhere and need to have work done and they reload the ECU software??  I have both my maps in the car with me and backed up on my home PC.
CaverD3
28th August 2013, 08:58 AM
Superchips Bluefin DIY they send you the map can be removed or changed as needed.
herrBlick
28th August 2013, 04:54 PM
Unfortunately I use mac so it's not an option for me,
CaverD3
28th August 2013, 05:35 PM
Borrow a lap top you only need it for putting the map on (or off)
austeve01
29th August 2013, 05:12 AM
Superchips Bluefin DIY they send you the map can be removed or changed as needed.
Just wondering what the cost is for one of these remaps?
Cheers
Steve
CaverD3
29th August 2013, 07:12 AM
I bought mine direct from UK but looks like they want you to go through dealer now.
This lot $640
Superchips – petrol and diesel engine tuning, ECU remap software for maximum driving pleasure. (http://www.mybluefin.com.au/)
Bluefin [BLUEFIN] - $439.00 : Tigersoft, Tuning - Coding - Styling (http://tigersoft.com.au/Store/index.php'main_page=product_info&products_id=72)
herrBlick
29th August 2013, 08:57 AM
It cost me 1000 dollars at Ritters
Disco4SE
29th August 2013, 02:28 PM
Ummmmmmm....I don't think so...I will be taking it into Ritters from now on anyway , very friendly out there
Hey herrBlick, when I had mine done on the D3 at Ritters, they offered to install the original mapping prior to taking it in for a service elsewhere.
As you mentioned, they are friendly.
 
Cheers, Craig
herrBlick
29th August 2013, 02:31 PM
Yes indeed I was there today again as my engine kept cutting out on the free way. They offers to reinstall it whenever if it got wiped elsewhere
herrBlick
29th August 2013, 04:16 PM
Just thought I'd post this on here instead
I was on my way to AB transmissions this morning when I got  to 100kms I went into cruise control and all was good,( this was the first time on the freeway since remapping)
Then out of the blue "special program's off " flashed up and the car started to slow , I had to go across all the lanes to get to the hard shoulder, freighting !
Turned the car off and on again ... No problems and off I went.... This happened again four times.  
I searched the forum for answers and found a topic with similar symptoms , the advice was...... Wait for it '!!!!!!!
Remove the rest of your keys from the car key as it pulls on the ignition, 
So I did to no avail,
Called Ritter's and drove their to have them have a look. On the way my fuel light came on and I filled her up,
There was a running rich error on the reader ,and the mechanic couldn't replicate the fault
I then drove to AB transmissions everything was cool,
Until I got onto the freeway and gave it some. Yes! The same thing happened again. So I called Ritter's and they said come back and we shall put the you old program back in and see if its the remapping causing it... 
Ok I thought very nice service... 
So I continued up the freeway and decided to give it some again.
It was amazing the car drove like a dream at naughty speeds , I couldn't believe it. All was good , I decided instead to go home and keep an eye on it over the weekend and see 
I informed Ritter's of my decision , 
When I arrived home and went to reverse my car I shockingly realised my gear stick had been in sports mode with out me shifting it, 
Can you just drive your car in sports mode and just not touch it?
Has anyone else had the cutting out problem?
CaverD3
29th August 2013, 04:43 PM
It cost me 1000 dollars at Ritters
And you have to go back to have the map replaced if it gets overwritten by a software update from dealer or autologic.
You could have bought a windoz laptop with the difference.
I think the map is at fault, you can dive in sport mode without issue, it just changes the gear change points ( I think D4 also changes mapping)
Too rich is overfueling, either map didn't take or a badly written map.
rufusking
29th August 2013, 05:51 PM
Too rich is overfueling, either map didn't take or a badly written map.
Or issue with MAF meter.
101RRS
29th August 2013, 06:00 PM
The above issues highlight why I went with the BAS Map - is a known, proven player in the D3 world, is much cheaper, and with the included device I can change maps in a couple of minutes wherever I am without the requirement to go somewhere to get it done.
Also - I have had mine for a year and absolutely no issues and the extra zoom zoom is great.
Garry
herrBlick
29th August 2013, 06:09 PM
MAF meter?
SBD4
29th August 2013, 07:01 PM
MAF meter?
Mass Air Flow Sensor, On the air intake duct -  measures air temperature/volumes etc the ECU adjusts accordingly. If this is up the crapper then your engine will be sick.
jonesy63
29th August 2013, 08:54 PM
Has the MAP sensor ever been cleaned? (Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor, in case you wonder!). :p
This should be a part of routine service schedule - probably every 30-40,000km... but no. :(
Takes about 5 mins to remove, clean and reinstall - and can make a massive difference.
101RRS
29th August 2013, 09:00 PM
This should be a part of routine service schedule - probably every 30-40,000km... but no. :(
Takes about 5 mins to remove, clean and reinstall - and can make a massive difference.
I will second that (also clean out the manifold as the amount of crud that builds up for the same reason as it builds up on the MAP sensor is huge) - not an issue for me any more as I have my EGRs blanked.
Garry
~Rich~
29th August 2013, 09:20 PM
Yes third that, however never poke anything down the centre hole. 
It is too easily damaged.
Have a good read here:
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic64159.html
This is not your remap problem though, just something else to be aware of.
Tombie
30th August 2013, 12:58 AM
You have been given a generic "Autologic" remap.
A one fits all tune.
No problem with that. But it won't be tailored to your specific wants or mods.
Pickles2
30th August 2013, 07:40 AM
You have been given a generic "Autologic" remap.
 
A one fits all tune.
 
No problem with that. But it won't be tailored to your specific wants or mods.
Those are my thoughts too, but having said that, where would one obtain a specific "your car" tune?.....Plenty in the U.K., but is there anyone say in Melbourne, that can individually re-map a Puma?
Cheers, Pickles.
Tombie
30th August 2013, 08:15 AM
Those are my thoughts too, but having said that, where would one obtain a specific "your car" tune?.....Plenty in the U.K., but is there anyone say in Melbourne, that can individually re-map a Puma?
Cheers, Pickles.
BAS...
He sends you the module, you download your Vehicle, and send him the file. Along with a list of mods, use etc.
He emails a modified file to you, you load it on the vehicle.
herrBlick
30th August 2013, 08:42 AM
The above issues highlight why I went with the BAS Map - is a known, proven player in the D3 world, is much cheaper, and with the included device I can change maps in a couple of minutes wherever I am without the requirement to go somewhere to get it done.
Also - I have had mine for a year and absolutely no issues and the extra zoom zoom is great.
Garry
I have contacted Tombie
101RRS
30th August 2013, 09:55 AM
Send an email to BAS and find out Diesel performance tuning and economy remap chip tuning for Landrover Defender Discovery TD5 Puma TDV6 TDV8 | Diesel tuning and performance remap for Landrovers (http://bellautoservices.co.uk/)
I have contacted Tombie
Why not contact Pete Bell at Bell Auto Services through the above2 site.
Tombie
30th August 2013, 09:56 AM
Why not contact Pete Bell at Bell Auto Services through the above2 site.
And I aimed him direct to Pete at BAS :)
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