Wheels and tyre advice

[4evershiva]

Hi guys, I would like to get some wheels with mud tyres especially for 4wd driving....am currently running 19inch with 255 on my discovery 3. what wheel size and tyre size shud i go for. will be happy with a second hand one...any suggestion as where to start my search...

[rb30gtr]

I have been doling a bit of research, so to shed some light on what I have been looking at.

All in a 17inch. However Graeme from GOE has some awesome 18inch wheel options for sale. Compomotive rims from memory. Bit exy for me, but look amazing on a couple of AULRO rigs.

In the wheel and Tyre section there is a set of 5, 17inch BB6 rims with Cooper St maxx, for a damn good price!
Also a set of 17inch king steel king wheels with the right offset for D3, no tyres though, for $400 and they are new.

I am looking at most likely Steel King rims in a 17 by 8 inch with Cooper St Maxx tyres, or possibly Mickey Thompson MTZ's, however I have seen some bad sidewall damage on these. I will be waiting till after the wedding and honeymoon to spend the cash though :(

Kingwheels (http://www.kingwheels.com.au/)
Cooper Tires - Tyres (http://www.coopertires.com.au/?page=tyres&tyre_id=15)

[rb30gtr]

I am selling my CBR1000RR and will get Tyre/wheel purchase approval!

Just getting a few quotes, I am trying to get all 5 wheels and tyres done for 2.5grand. That's 285/70/R17 Cooper ST maxx on King Steel 17/8 black wheels.
Id get the ones for sale in the market section on here but they are in WA, and with delivery on-top it blows my budget :(
So far Tyre Power are at $2750 for 5, waiting for a discounted price if they will do it.

And I just realised my spare might not fit if I get the 5th done. Oh well on the roof it will go.

Anyone know any well priced Tyre outlets near Sydney, preferably West?

[Boofla]

Jax sell the king wheels and try Tempe tyres for cheap coopers.

[NavyDiver]

Hi guys, I would like to get some wheels with mud tyres especially for 4wd driving....am currently running 19inch with 255 on my discovery 3. what wheel size and tyre size shud i go for. will be happy with a second hand one...any suggestion as where to start my search...

BMW X5 17 rims can some times be grabbed from BMW yuppies who ripped them off and put 19, 20 or even sillier rims on. Not that Landrover types or the company would ever do such a thing! ;)

Road rubber on my 18 inch and 17 inch MT Micky Thompson make my d3 almost unstoppable. I have only used my winch once with the 17 inch MTs one. Used it a lot with 18 inch ATs!

My 9 BMW X5 rims cost about $150 :o . You need to grab new nuts for the BMW rims. This would leave your budget a lot more options for off road rubber:D

[Boofla]

I'm selling some 18s of a RRS sport that fit a disco as well!

[sheerluck]

I'm selling some 18s of a RRS sport that fit a disco as well!

Be careful though, the RRS have a lower load limit than those for the D3/4.

[101RRS]

Be careful though, the RRS have a lower load limit than those for the D3/4.

Yes but still well within the load requirements for a D3.

[sheerluck]

Yes but still well within the load requirements for a D3.

I understood that they were underrated for the D3/4's higher GVM. See here http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/157207-load-rating-wheels.html

Happy to be informed otherwise.
[EDIT]
D3 weights:
- Max Front Axle Load 1450kg
- Max Rear Axle Load 1870kg
- Total Gross Vehicle Weight 3280 – 3330kg

RRS wheels are rated between 850 and 900kg depending on the style, so they could conceivably go on the front axle but not the rear.

Please note that this is not an area of expertise for me, this is based on doing a fair bit of reading and studying (I bought a pair of RRS wheels from eBay in error, they were advertised as D3), so if anyone who knows for sure, I am happy to be corrected.

[Boofla]

4 RRS wheel are rated more than the gvm of a disco anyway if I'm not mistaken.

[sheerluck]

4 RRS wheel are rated more than the gvm of a disco anyway if I'm not mistaken.

Have a look, it's marked on the wheel. I've put what I have found in my post above - if your wheels are rated higher than the range I found, please do post it here, I'm very happy to be corrected.

[101RRS]

RRS wheels are rated between 850 and 900kg depending on the style,

18" RRS wheels are rated at 940kgs - so the same rating as D3 wheels.

I had a look at the link you put up - not sure where Gordon got his information from but that is not correct - some may be rated less than 940kgs in other sizes but 18s are 940kg.

Garry

[Boofla]

Have a look, it's marked on the wheel. I've put what I have found in my post above - if your wheels are rated higher than the range I found, please do post it here, I'm very happy to be corrected.

I just went out checked the wheels and learnt 3 things;
The inside of my wheels are pretty dirty!
They are made in Italy.
And they have a load rate of 940kg.

Cheers

[sheerluck]

18" RRS wheels are rated at 940kgs - so the same rating as D3 wheels.

I had a look at the link you put up - not sure where Gordon got his information from but that is not correct - some may be rated less than 940kgs in other sizes but 18s are 940kg.

Garry

Garry,

I've got a pair of 18s that are rated at 900kg. I believe (from the research that i did) they were from an early RRS, 2005-2006MY.

I've just been out to try and take a photo, but it's a little too dark in the shed to see the markings clearly.

I had mistakenly assumed, from reading the thread I quoted amongst others, that was consistent with other 18s.

As I said, very happy to be corrected, and have been by Boofla. :D

[sheerluck]

I just went out checked the wheels and learnt 3 things;
The inside of my wheels are pretty dirty!
They are made in Italy.
And they have a load rate of 940kg.

Cheers

All good to go then! And my apologies for spreading misinformation.

[101RRS]

Garry,

I've got a pair of 18s that are rated at 900kg. I believe (from the research that i did) they were from an early RRS, 2005-2006MY.

Are they original equipment or aftermarket? The genuine 18s on my RRS are as said 940kgs.

Garry

[sheerluck]

Are they original equipment or aftermarket? The genuine 18s on my RRS are as said 940kgs.

Garry

OE. I bought them on eBay, as they were advertised as D3 wheels. It was only when I looked the part number and rating up that I found (a few weeks after purchase :mad:) all was not well.

[MR LR]

The wheels were interchanged between the models anyway... I fail to see how some would be rated high enough and some wouldn't...

[4evershiva]

BMW X5 17 rims can some times be grabbed from BMW yuppies who ripped them off and put 19, 20 or even sillier rims on. Not that Landrover types or the company would ever do such a thing! ;)

Road rubber on my 18 inch and 17 inch MT Micky Thompson make my d3 almost unstoppable. I have only used my winch once with the 17 inch MTs one. Used it a lot with 18 inch ATs!

My 9 BMW X5 rims cost about $150 :o . You need to grab new nuts for the BMW rims. This would leave your budget a lot more options for off road rubber:D

Hi,I am thinking in the lines of 17 inch MT Micky Thompson, could you give some specs and offset requirement for the 17 inch....

[NavyDiver]

Hi,I am thinking in the lines of 17 inch MT Micky Thompson, could you give some specs and offset requirement for the 17 inch....

Nope but I can tell you mine rub just. Only when at full lock:D

Technical details from people with much more knowledge than I here http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/86757-legality-aftermarket-17-rims-d3-16.html

And center caps to remove BMW which might look odd on a D3 here
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/139292-rim-centre-cap-replacement-new-rims.html

[gghaggis]

The RRS only requires a load rating of 900kg. There certainly are some LR 18" RRS rims that are made to a lower rating than the required 940kg of the D3/D4, but this doesn't seem to be consistent.

So I guess don't assume the RRS rims are always going to be legal on a D4.

Cheers,

Gordon

[4evershiva]

will 265/70/R17 fit the D3 without any issues??

[4evershiva]

will 265/70/R17 fit the D3 without any issues??

[Discophil]

Yes, I have 265/70/17 KM2s and have no problems. I have a 2" dobinson lift as I have the base model with coils.

[sniegy]

Will have an issue tho' with the spare as it will need to be fitted flat or most of the air out anyway.
You may get a small rub here & there with full articulation out in the rough stuff.

Cheers

[murray073]

Hi Discophil, How do you find the 2" lift by Dobinsons. I am thinking of doing this as well, did you get coils & struts, did you upgrade to a higher load rating, does it change the ride, how long have you had them on, are there any unforeseen issues.

Cheers,
Murray

[Redback]

So these rims are for a D3/D4 2.7l WILL NOT FIT THE 30Lt

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/wheels-tyres-suspension-sale/167387-d3-steel-rims-five-17-x7.html

At $400 for 5 it's a bargain, Larry(Mark) is a nice bloke and honest, been on the forum for yonks.

Baz.

[Redback]

I am selling my CBR1000RR and will get Tyre/wheel purchase approval!

Just getting a few quotes, I am trying to get all 5 wheels and tyres done for 2.5grand. That's 285/70/R17 Cooper ST maxx on King Steel 17/8 black wheels.
Id get the ones for sale in the market section on here but they are in WA, and with delivery on-top it blows my budget :(
So far Tyre Power are at $2750 for 5, waiting for a discounted price if they will do it.

And I just realised my spare might not fit if I get the 5th done. Oh well on the roof it will go.

Anyone know any well priced Tyre outlets near Sydney, preferably West?

I hope you mean 265/70/17, cause 285/70/17s won't fit without a lot of rubbing.

Baz.

[Discophil]

Hi Murray,

Love the lift, was the best thing I did to the car. I found I was scraping on everything, not any more. I got the coils and struts and had installed at Graeme Coopers for around $1200. I didn't get the heavy duty ones as I was afraid of making the ride too harsh. The ride is slightly firmer and even though it sits higher, it feels like it corners better due to the stiffness. 90% of my driving is around town so I was worried about the ride, however I have to say I am very happy with it and would highly recommend it. I have had them on for about 2 years now and have had no issues at all.

Phil

[Redback]

Hi Murray,

Love the lift, was the best thing I did to the car. I found I was scraping on everything, not any more. I got the coils and struts and had installed at Graeme Coopers for around $1200. I didn't get the heavy duty ones as I was afraid of making the ride too harsh. The ride is slightly firmer and even though it sits higher, it feels like it corners better due to the stiffness. 90% of my driving is around town so I was worried about the ride, however I have to say I am very happy with it and would highly recommend it. I have had them on for about 2 years now and have had no issues at all.

Phil

Is your Disco Black by any chance??

Baz.

[Discophil]

No its a blue one.

[murray073]

Thanks for the info Phil. It's good to hear someones first hand experience. Been thinking about it for a while. I would need to go slightly heavier onthe rear as I tow an of-road camper that weighs about 1400 kgs when loaded to the max with full fuel & full water. Thanks again,

Murray

[Gords]

So just to clarify, what is the general consensus or most popular choice when selecting tyre sizes for the D3's.

I'm currently about to make the switch to MT's & 17's I think- well now that I'm only a few hours from the high country anyway :)

I cuttently have 265/60/18's, these are pretty much spot on in terms of correct speedo reading and they easily fit in the spare wheel space.

Comparing these with the 17" sizes;
- 265/60/18 = 2438mm circumference
- 265/70/17 = 2520mm circumference as mentioned bit bigger and will scrub on full articulation / lock and will require to be somewhat deflated to fit in spare tyre well.
- 245/70/17 = 2432mm circumference so just smaller than the 265/60/18.

Is there any other preferred sizes? How much over is the 265/70/17's in terms of speedo wise?

Furthermore, has anyone got any general comments about D3 performance (I've got a SE TDV6) when changing from AT's to MT's in either sizes? Obviously gained offroad performance but change in onroad performance I.e. fuel consumption / accelleration etc.

Thanks in advance!
Rob

[Redback]

So just to clarify, what is the general consensus or most popular choice when selecting tyre sizes for the D3's.

I'm currently about to make the switch to MT's & 17's I think- well now that I'm only a few hours from the high country anyway :)

I cuttently have 265/60/18's, these are pretty much spot on in terms of correct speedo reading and they easily fit in the spare wheel space.

Comparing these with the 17" sizes;
- 265/60/18 = 2438mm circumference
- 265/70/17 = 2520mm circumference as mentioned bit bigger and will scrub on full articulation / lock and will require to be somewhat deflated to fit in spare tyre well.
- 245/70/17 = 2432mm circumference so just smaller than the 265/60/18.

Is there any other preferred sizes? How much over is the 265/70/17's in terms of speedo wise?

Furthermore, has anyone got any general comments about D3 performance (I've got a SE TDV6) when changing from AT's to MT's in either sizes? Obviously gained offroad performance but change in onroad performance I.e. fuel consumption / accelleration etc.

Thanks in advance!
Rob

The popular sizes are 265/70/17, 265/65/17(factory fitted to Prado's) and 245/70/17, consumption does go up slightly when fitting MTs, but I think it's more due to the increase in size of the tyre really, because when people do fit MTs they normally go for a bigger tyre, if you fit the 265/70s your speedo will be closer to correct, probably 2kph out.

Baz.

[Graeme]

My 3.0's consumption seemed to increase with local driving but not at freeway speeds with Duratracs fitted in the same 245/70-17 size as my usual Yoko ATS. I suspect that wind drag at freeway speeds is a far greater influence than tread patterns.

[Gords]

Thanks Baz!

Great to know. To me that sounds like the 265/65/17 is the berries given the speedo / fitting into the spare and also likely to be in stock for many outback tyre shops (if its the Prado standard size).

Cheers,
Rob

[Boofla]

I just put 265/65-17s on and wouldn't go a bigger profile.

I'm going to fix my winch/replace thing before I can fit a spare to see if it fits.

The conti ats I put on seem pretty good so far (only 2 days) and very happy with the price I payed.

[NavyDiver]

265 70 r17 Micky T MT give my D3 a perfect speedo reading according to my GPS. The 18 inch ATs are off or under by about 4kph. Speedo shows 103 or 104 when I am doing 100kph on the 18inch. The 265 70 r17 Micky T MT do rub only at full lock.

[rb30gtr]

I do have a question around offset and rims,

To get a 285/70/17 to fit and not rub on the inside at lock on the front, what offset of the wheels can we go to within reason of not looking ridiculous hanging out of the guards, and will the tyres then rub on the outer and inner guards at all?

I do understand this won't be entirely legal, but seriously looking around at 95% of vehicles with M/T's, half an inch or an inch poking past the guards surly wont even get a look in by the constabularies on a Landie.

And going wider, a 285 or even up to a 305, I'd assume if the rolling profile is similar they can still be lowered in pressure to fit in the standard spare spot?

Thanks
Ben

[Redback]

Thanks Baz!

Great to know. To me that sounds like the 265/65/17 is the berries given the speedo / fitting into the spare and also likely to be in stock for many outback tyre shops (if its the Prado standard size).

Cheers,
Rob

Just a bit more info on the sizes, if you are remote and do need to have a tyre replaced and your 265/65s are not available, you can get by with 245/70/17 if that's all they have in stock and you need to get going, the rolling diameter for it is 774.8mm, the 265/65 rolling diameter is 776.3mm, 1.5mm difference.

I have 245/70/17s on my D4, I was given this info by the local tyre guy, as we do alot of remote stuff I thought it would be good if we ever get stuck somewhere and our tyre size was not available, I could get by with the 265/65 as an alternitive.

Baz.

[rb30gtr]

Just a bit more info on the sizes, if you are remote and do need to have a tyre replaced and your 265/65s are not available, you can get by with 245/70/17 if that's all they have in stock and you need to get going, the rolling diameter for it is 774.8mm, the 265/65 rolling diameter is 776.3mm, 1.5mm difference.

I have 245/70/17s on my D4, I was given this info by the local tyre guy, as we do alot of remote stuff I thought it would be good if we ever get stuck somewhere and our tyre size was not available, I could get by with the 265/65 as an alternitive.

Baz.

Hi Baz,

Wouldn't the rolling diameter of a 65 be less than a 70 on the same rim?

Cheers,
Ben

[sheerluck]

Hi Baz,

Wouldn't the rolling diameter of a 65 be less than a 70 on the same rim?

Cheers,
Ben

No, because that 65 or 70 is the sidewall height expressed as a ratio of the tyre width. So 65% of a 265mm width versus 70% of a 245mm width.

[rb30gtr]

No, because that 65 or 70 is the sidewall height expressed as a ratio of the tyre width. So 65% of a 265mm width versus 70% of a 245mm width.

Thanks Dave, that makes a lot more sense :twobeers:

So will I fit 285/70/17's in my guards at off-road height, with different offset rims of course?

So the D3 is a +52mm, I was thinking of going to a +40 or less so more rim is on the outside of the stud location pushing the Tyre outwards instead on inwards?

Or am I playing with fire in a scenario not worth it?

Cheers,
Ben

[Boofla]

Don't forget if you go above 50km/h your car will lower to normal height and you might not have enough clearance!
Plus it's not just height, you might not have enough width in your wheel arch either.

[sheerluck]

Don't forget if you go above 50km/h your car will lower to normal height and you might not have enough clearance!
Plus it's not just height, you might not have enough width in your wheel arch either.

Fitting LLAMS will solve the height and lowering issue, in terms of width, the extra 10mm that the tyre will protrude will still be inside the arch.

[rb30gtr]

Don't forget if you go above 50km/h your car will lower to normal height and you might not have enough clearance!
Plus it's not just height, you might not have enough width in your wheel arch either.

GOE rods :) Best hundred and a bit bucks I ever spent!

[Boofla]

Fitting LLAMS will solve the height and lowering issue, in terms of width, the extra 10mm that the tyre will protrude will still be inside the arch.

Depends on what rims you run.
With my 265/65-17s and wheels with a 30mm offset they just stick out past the arch's.

[rb30gtr]

Depends on what rims you run.
With my 265/65-17s and wheels with a 30mm offset they just stick out past the arch's.

Do you get any rubbing?

Also What wheels?

Cheers,
Ben

[sheerluck]

Depends on what rims you run.
With my 265/65-17s and wheels with a 30mm offset they just stick out past the arch's.

Fair comment. I was talking of wheels with the standard +53 offset. Reducing the positive offset will make them stick out further.

[gghaggis]

Be aware that in most states, there are legal implications to changing your rim offset by more than 12.5mm.

The standard +53mm offset LR 18" rim will allow fitment of a 285-width tyre without rubbing, so I wouldn't think you'd need to have a different offset for the 17" rim.

I think your real problem with 285/70R17's will be the diameter - that equates to 32.7" (831mm). Without spring spacers, this will rub fairly hard at access or whenever a wheel is compressed, and may foul at the front on lock.

Cheers,

Gordon

[Boofla]

Do you get any rubbing?

Also What wheels?

Cheers,
Ben

No rubbing.

King wheels, Tera in 17x8.

[rb30gtr]

The standard +53mm offset LR 18" rim will allow fitment of a 285-width tyre without rubbing, so I wouldn't think you'd need to have a different offset for the 17" rim.

I think your real problem with 285/70R17's will be the diameter - that equates to 32.7" (831mm). Without spring spacers, this will rub fairly hard at access or whenever a wheel is compressed, and may foul at the front on lock.

Cheers,

Gordon

Thanks Gordon,
That was the info I was chasing. I'm pretty set on getting as close to 33inch tyres as I can, and the BFG KM2's in a 285/70/17 look almost spot on.

And any time the KM2's are on I will be leaving the GOE Rods on the heightened setting,
Do you know if I would still get rubbing without going below off road height? If so then there goes the idea of the 285/70/17's.

I could always go for the 245/70/17's, considering they are 300 a tyre at Tempe at the moment, but to go to the 285/70/17 would be much more cool and awesome.

Cheers,
Ben

[rb30gtr]

No rubbing.

King wheels, Tera in 17x8.

Legend, thanks Boofla.

You haven't tried a 33inch on those rims have you?

[Boofla]

Legend, thanks Boofla.

You haven't tried a 33inch on those rims have you?

No and I wouldn't to be honest. Not on a sport anyway.

I've got 285/75-16s on my patrol and the other thing you need to know is the bigger the tyre the slower off the line you are going to be, more wear on the gearbox as well with extra strain.

Thanks
Brent

[Boofla]

Forgot to mention, I'm not sure if you saw my thread on bob Jane but get a price from them and they will match any price and take off 10% of the difference between there price and your quote.

Cheers

[rb30gtr]

No and I wouldn't to be honest. Not on a sport anyway.

I've got 285/75-16s on my patrol and the other thing you need to know is the bigger the tyre the slower off the line you are going to be, more wear on the gearbox as well with extra strain.

Thanks
Brent

Yeah another good point, don't want to put any more strain than necessary on the balsa wood auto box.

Cheers,
Ben

[gghaggis]

Thanks Gordon,
That was the info I was chasing. I'm pretty set on getting as close to 33inch tyres as I can, and the BFG KM2's in a 285/70/17 look almost spot on.

And any time the KM2's are on I will be leaving the GOE Rods on the heightened setting,
Do you know if I would still get rubbing without going below off road height? If so then there goes the idea of the 285/70/17's.

I could always go for the 245/70/17's, considering they are 300 a tyre at Tempe at the moment, but to go to the 285/70/17 would be much more cool and awesome.

Cheers,
Ben

Hi Ben,

Neither LLAMS nor rods will stop 285/70R17 tyres rubbing when the wheel compresses up into the wheel-arch. On a D3, the only real solution for fitting 33" tyres are spacers between the air-spring and turret + rods, but that will need all the geometry re-aligned and reduces the reliability of the car. One of the US owners did it, but they're pretty lax on vehicle mods over there .....

The largest MT tyre you'll fit (in 17" rim size) is a 265/70R17. The individual tyre makes vary in actual diameter (versus calculated diameter). The largest I ever found was the Interco Super Swamper SSR, but I had to import them from the States (although Procomp did sell them for a while). It was just under 32.5" in diameter. It will still rub, but some creative cutting of the inner wheel liners will help.

Cheers,

Gordon

[101RRS]

Yeah another good point, don't want to put any more strain than necessary on the balsa wood auto box.

Cheers,
Ben

Since when is the gearbox weak - exceptionally reliable with few breakdowns - issue is lack of fluid changes causing issues not mechanical issues.

[rb30gtr]

Since when is the gearbox weak - exceptionally reliable with few breakdowns - issue is lack of fluid changes causing issues not mechanical issues.

Same or similar box as the FG turbo falcons?

[101RRS]

Got no idea about Falcons - we are talking Discos etc and overall they work fine in these vehicles as long as you ignore the Land Rover service schedule and service it about every 80,000km or so or as recommended by the gearbox makers.

Garry

[rb30gtr]

Hi Ben,

Neither LLAMS nor rods will stop 285/70R17 tyres rubbing when the wheel compresses up into the wheel-arch. On a D3, the only real solution for fitting 33" tyres are spacers between the air-spring and turret + rods, but that will need all the geometry re-aligned and reduces the reliability of the car. One of the US owners did it, but they're pretty lax on vehicle mods over there .....

The largest MT tyre you'll fit (in 17" rim size) is a 265/70R17. The individual tyre makes vary in actual diameter (versus calculated diameter). The largest I ever found was the Interco Super Swamper SSR, but I had to import them from the States (although Procomp did sell them for a while). It was just under 32.5" in diameter. It will still rub, but some creative cutting of the inner wheel liners will help.

Cheers,

Gordon


Thanks Gordon.

I'll play it safe and stay under 265/70/17, really appreciate the info.

Cheers,
Ben

[rb30gtr]

Got no idea about Falcons - we are talking Discos etc and overall they work fine in these vehicles as long as you ignore the Land Rover service schedule and service it about every 80,000km or so or as recommended by the gearbox makers.

Garry

Id better be doing a flush/service on mine then, she is at 182k's.


Cheers,
Ben

[Redback]

Same or similar box as the FG turbo falcons?

Similar as in same manufacturer only I would think, as far as I have seen over the last 8 years, the D3/D4/RRS ZF box is pretty reliable, as said above, give it a service at 80,000ks as recommended by Land Rover UK for harsh conditions, (ie) Middle East, Sth Africa, Australia.

Baz.

[jonesy63]

Check this out:
Ford 6R transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[~Rich~]

Id better be doing a flush/service on mine then, she is at 182k's.


Cheers,
Ben

Wow!
I've been getting mine flushed and serviced every 50,000 to prolong life.

(Getting off topic a bit!)

[scarry]

Just a bit more info on the sizes, if you are remote and do need to have a tyre replaced and your 265/65s are not available, you can get by with 245/70/17 if that's all they have in stock and you need to get going, the rolling diameter for it is 774.8mm, the 265/65 rolling diameter is 776.3mm, 1.5mm difference.

I have 245/70/17s on my D4, I was given this info by the local tyre guy, as we do alot of remote stuff I thought it would be good if we ever get stuck somewhere and our tyre size was not available, I could get by with the 265/65 as an alternitive.

Baz.

The stock size on the Prado GX is 245/70/17,so they are fairly common as well.Most of the hire Prados are GX.
I also run 245/70/17 on D3 rims.
Will 265/65 fit the same rim?

[Boofla]

Don't forget more importantly because it's easier to be checked is that in most states you can only increase diameter by 2 inches or less.
With my RRS the tyre placard has the 275/40-20, which has a diameter of 28.66 inches and my 265/65-17 are 30.56 which comes in at 1.9 inches change.

Something else to keep in mind!

[Geedublya]

Don't forget more importantly because it's easier to be checked is that in most states you can only increase diameter by 2 inches or less.
With my RRS the tyre placard has the 275/40-20, which has a diameter of 28.66 inches and my 265/65-17 are 30.56 which comes in at 1.9 inches change.

Something else to keep in mind!

NSW is max 15mm diameter increase only. You can go up to 50mm with an engineers approval.

Width can increase by 25mm.

[Redback]

The stock size on the Prado GX is 245/70/17,so they are fairly common as well.Most of the hire Prados are GX.
I also run 245/70/16 on D3 rims.
Will 265/65 fit the same rim?

Yes 265 is the max for a 7" rim.

Baz.

[Redback]

Don't forget more importantly because it's easier to be checked is that in most states you can only increase diameter by 2 inches or less.
With my RRS the tyre placard has the 275/40-20, which has a diameter of 28.66 inches and my 265/65-17 are 30.56 which comes in at 1.9 inches change.

Something else to keep in mind!

Isn't there a couple of different rims sizes for the RRS, the D4 2.7L tyre diameter on the 255/60/18, 30.0"

255/55/19 is 30.0" also

[Gords]

I have 245/70/17s on my D4

Cheers guys,

Baz- can I ask why you went these instead of the larger 265/70/17's?

I just cant make up my mind whether to go big being the 265/70/17's or the 265/65/17's. The 265/65/17's are probably more practical as these are the same size as my 265/60/18's so I would have a choice of 6 complete spares to take on remote trips and would save me paying through the nose for a tyre that wasn't my first choice in the bush. Come to think of it, would you even bother getting a 5th spare wheel / tyre? They only get out of whack anyway if you don't rotate them and they are the same circumference so theory suggests that they would suffice for a while until you got back to town and could pick up a suitable replacement.

I guess what I am really asking is this: How better would it be to have an extra inch or so? (talking tyres here guys... nothing else :D:p)

[Redback]

Cheers guys,

Baz- can I ask why you went these instead of the larger 265/70/17's?

I just cant make up my mind whether to go big being the 265/70/17's or the 265/65/17's. The 265/65/17's are probably more practical as these are the same size as my 265/60/18's so I would have a choice of 6 complete spares to take on remote trips and would save me paying through the nose for a tyre that wasn't my first choice in the bush. Come to think of it, would you even bother getting a 5th spare wheel / tyre? They only get out of whack anyway if you don't rotate them and they are the same circumference so theory suggests that they would suffice for a while until you got back to town and could pick up a suitable replacement.

I guess what I am really asking is this: How better would it be to have an extra inch or so? (talking tyres here guys... nothing else :D:p)

Mainly because I tow a camper most of the time, I thought I would try them to see if there was a difference in economy and whether it made towing easier, there's not a lot of difference really between the 265/70, 31.6in and 245/70, 30.5 in rolling diameter, and to be honest fuel economy hasn't really changed that much, if at all.

I think either of the 3 sizes will be fine, it really comes down to price, the 245s are a bit cheaper, but if that's not a concern then go with whatever your personal preference is.

Baz.

[maverick]

Great advise on the options of sizes.
The 245 will be cheaper...