No5 trailer.. Rego'd

[extreme]

I picked up my new (as old as me ?) No5 trailer this morning from Grays online yard where I met fellow Aulroian chrisM. chrisM followed me to the motor registery to register my trailer and get a permit for his. We did turn a few heads traveling in convoy. We were sent off to Supa cheap to buy some letter/number stamps which chrisM bought (Thanks). The trailers were stamped with chassis numbers. Chris went back to his place and my trailer is rego'd. Great outcome :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/227.jpg (http://s341.photobucket.com/user/extremejnr/media/IMG_4734_zps9594462a.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/228.jpg (http://s341.photobucket.com/user/extremejnr/media/IMG_4733_zps1db442f3.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/229.jpg (http://s341.photobucket.com/user/extremejnr/media/IMG_4731_zpsf82b2485.jpg.html)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Did you stamp the correct number to match the ARN?

I was suggesting it be ADI-???? (with the "?" representing the correct chassis number and ADI representing the trailer's manufacturer name that the RMS has in the database.)

[extreme]

Not sure what numbers match ARN. There was a maintanance log in the tub,out of that log I used the 5x numbers under the section - Chassis number. There were no letters ADI.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The reason for the ADI is that there is a possibility that the original chassis was swapped at some stage. By adding the ADI at the front it is unlikely that if the original chassis turns up to be registered then the numbers won't conflict with all the legal issues that may create.

For those who don't know where to find the original chassis number (for Army trailers) they are listed on the REMLR website: http://remlr.com/ARN/ARNs_trailer.html

[extreme]

Thanks for the information. I will talk to my REMLR colleagues in QLD before getting it updated in the database.

[chris m]

First of all , hi Extreme, thank you for your help and guidance around the streets of inner north Brisbane. Photos are great. I'm very glad to read that you got the rego.

My story is that Extreme and I arrived to pick up our trailers at the same time and discovered we both had the same problem - no VIN or chassis number. So it was off in convoy to the DMT where they advised you can DIY the stamp. I got my number from the log book (and turns out it agrees with the REMLR database.) Though the database says 1966 built, but it is 1977 in the logbook which I would trust absolutely.

Anyway, so we went to Supercheap auto, bought some 6mm number punches and stamped the numbers onto the drawbars. Back to the Dept and they issued my permit (for moving unregistered vehicle), and just as well I had it as I got stopped on the way back to NSW when observed with no number plate by a Dept vehicle that usually look out for dodgy trucks.

So back home with what looks to be a trailer in VGC for a price that would otherwise buy maybe a couple of tyres or wheels.

[chris m]

Hi extreme, my email is acdmeagher@gmail.com
Send email to me and I will reply about correctness of the number stamping we did.
and noted lotz-a-landies suggestion which seems a good idea (to put ADI in front of the number). Also noted that the computer lady entered the trailer make as ARMY, LT102.

chris m

[UncleHo]

G'day chris m :)

Does your No5 Trailer still the ID plate riveted to the left front chassis if so it will state "Manufactured by Ordinance Factory Maribyrnong Victoria" and on the left (N/Side) front drain plug plate it will have a number stamped just above the plastic plug "1234"or whatever that is the chassis number,well that is where mine is/was,under several coats of paint, mine also has a modification plate riveted to it,as it has a tailgate cut into it (very crudely)
I gather it was a unit modifactation.

BTW.the plastic plug is a "Tinny" drain plug

cheers

[303gunner]

G'day chris m :)

BTW.the plastic plug is a "Tinny" drain plug

cheers
The plug is made by the Aust company RONSTAN (http://www.ronstan.com.au/marine5/range.asp?RnID=125) (plug only P/N RF738, whole fitting P/N RF737), and the trailers coming out of the auctions are a bit hit and miss regarding wether they have 1, 2 or no plugs fitted. They're cheap enough to buy a couple for spares. I suspect that more than a few have dissapeared on inspection days. :mad:

[chris m]

Hi Uncle Ho and 303 gunner

There is no plate attached anywhere, except for a mod plate on the front chassis. The ARN number has been painted on the drawbar, now faded. The service book say it has been repainted and also lists "replaced tray" !! The springs have been replaced three times, nato plug twice, maybe the chassis is the only original part. I am going to stamp ADI next to the chassis number already DIY stamped as suggested by Lot-a-landies. Have to check the wiring as reverse light comes on in place of side lights, then off to get an inspection next week I hope, will advise the result here.

[303gunner]

There is no plate attached anywhere, except for a mod plate on the front chassis. The ARN number has been painted on the drawbar, now faded. The service book say it has been repainted and also lists "replaced tray" !!
The "replaced tray" part sounds typical of the Tenix/BAe rebuild process where trailers were reduced to components, reconditioned and then rebuilt. very few trailers managed to be reunited with their original tubs.

The tub serial is usually stamped on the front left drain plug tab (see pic).

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Thats exactly the situation with my No.5 the only number is on the LHS outer tab as per the image, but I have also seen then on the LHS inner tab.

No GOF plate only remnants of the holes and can't find anything stamped on the chassis.

[Bigbjorn]

Mine has an aluminium plate Govt Ordnance Factory Maribyrnong and the serial number on the left rear. of the tub. There are numbers near that drain plug as pictured but so poorly stamped as to be illegible. Qld. Transport did not recognise GOF as a manufacturer even though hundreds of No. 5's must have been registered over the decades. So mine is registered as "home made".

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Mine has an aluminium plate Govt Ordnance Factory Maribyrnong and the serial number on the left rear. of the tub. There are numbers near that drain plug as pictured but so poorly stamped as to be illegible. Qld. Transport did not recognise GOF as a manufacturer even though hundreds of No. 5's must have been registered over the decades. So mine is registered as "home made".Same thing happened with my No.5 but NSW RMS does recognise ADI where it does not recognise GOF.

[extreme]

My trailer is registered ,got the plate. Waiting for the rego papers in the mail I did over hear the girl serving me get told by a supervisor to call the trailer home made

[UncleHo]

G'day Extreme & Brian Hjelm :)

I find that odd that Qld Tpt would want to call it home made, as I have just renewed my No 5 rego and it is listed as "Make:ORDANANCE FACTORY in Capitals :) if you want to change it, you an quote that there is already at least 1 is regoed as Ordanance Factory that is AI-1160 due date 5-5-14

cheers

[Lotz-A-Landies]

G'day Extreme & Brian Hjelm :)

I find that odd that Qld Tpt would want to call it home made, as I have just renewed my No 5 rego and it is listed as "Make:ORDANANCE FACTORY in Capitals :) if you want to change it, you an quote that there is already at least 1 is regoed as Ordanance Factory that is AI-1160 due date 5-5-14

cheersPitty QT can't spell "Ordnance" it may as well be home made! :D