View Full Version : Special program's off! ..... Highway near disaster
herrBlick
29th August 2013, 03:01 PM
I was on my way to AB transmissions this morning when I got to 100kms I went into cruise control and all was good,( this was the first time on the freeway since remapping)
Then out of the blue "special program's off " flashed up and the car started to slow , I had to go across all the lanes to get to the hard shoulder, freighting !
Turned the car off and on again ... No problems and off I went.... This happened again four times.
I searched the forum for answers and found a topic with similar symptoms , the advice was...... Wait for it '!!!!!!!
Remove the rest of your keys from the car key as it pulls on the ignition,
So I did to no avail,
Called Ritter's and drove their to have them have a look. On the way my fuel light came on and I filled her up,
There was a running rich error on the reader ,and the mechanic couldn't replicate the fault
I then drove to AB transmissions everything was cool,
Until I got onto the freeway and gave it some. Yes! The same thing happened again. So I called Ritter's and they said come back and we shall put the you old program back in and see if its the remapping causing it...
Ok I thought very nice service...
So I continued up the freeway and decided to give it some again.
It was amazing the car drove like a dream at naughty speeds , I couldn't believe it. All was good , I decided instead to go home and keep an eye on it over the weekend and see
I informed Ritter's of my decision ,
When I arrived home and went to reverse my car I shockingly realised my gear stick had been in sports mode with out me shifting it,
Can you just drive your car in sports mode and just not touch it?
Has anyone else had the cutting out problem?
WhiteD3
29th August 2013, 04:34 PM
I had that warning after a wheel alignment once. The carputer was sensing something wrong in the front end.
Sports mode? No drama, it will just cost you more money in fuel.
Timj
29th August 2013, 06:24 PM
The other thing worth checking is your brake lights and the brake switch. Brake switch is a $20 part thanks to it being a ford part. Just a blown bulb can cause this sort of issue though.
TimJ.
herrBlick
29th August 2013, 08:09 PM
I think that since I got remapped that my engine us getting a little to much fuel. I will keep an eye on it over the weekend and treat accordingly,
NavyDiver
29th August 2013, 08:27 PM
Remapping on mine via a plug in tool which is a fault reader and holds original and improved mapping. No issues like yours. Sounds like a VW:eek: at least you drive it off the road unlike the poor VW lady who got killed by stopping in front of a truck
I have occasional left mine in sports mode or gear select mostly after having too much fun going slow.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/verandah/96808-tombie-now-doing-td6-tdv6-tdv8-chipping.html
Celtoid
29th August 2013, 10:12 PM
Hey mate,
What is your concern about Sports Mode? Did you just flick the lever across or did you actually change gear manually?
I'll try and cut off concerns at the pass...Bearing in mind I have a D4, but I assume it's the same.
If the shifter lever had just been selected to the left, there will be no issue, it automatically down selects and then changes gears normally (albeit at higher revs and down-selects more aggressively when you are slowing down) but I don't think the gear box will go into 6th. However, you'd have to be doing some very naughty speeds for that to be an issue....and the Red Line would be a give away.
If you had actually changed gears manually then forgot about the shifter position after that, I believe it should still change gear by itself but at much, much higher revs (like an emergency [don't break the engine] change). Still should be OK.
The car is pretty good at looking after itself.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Kev.
austeve01
30th August 2013, 12:54 AM
I think that since I got remapped that my engine us getting a little to much fuel. I will keep an eye on it over the weekend and treat accordingly,
Haven't had a remap to my D3 yet but about 15mths ago had similar issues to you regarding idiot lights on the dash flashing and vehicle slowing down to a crawl.
Short story is that both batteries were faulty (had them tested by battery specialist). Replaced main battery & then auxiliary later & everything has been fine since.
Cheers
Steve
101RRS
30th August 2013, 01:09 AM
If the shifter lever had just been selected to the left, there will be no issue, it automatically down selects and then changes gears normally (albeit at higher revs and down-selects more aggressively when you are slowing down) but I don't think the gear box will go into 6th. However, you'd have to be doing some very naughty speeds for that to be an issue....and the Red Line would be a give away.
The gearbox does go into 6th when in Sport mode - just takes a while. The car needs to be in a steady cruise situation for a little while - in the order of 20-30 secs but varies.
But you are correct - Sport is really no different to being in normal Auto - change points just change.
Garry
Glynhouse
30th August 2013, 07:29 AM
My D3 spends far more time in sports mode than it does in drive, up and down the Kuranda Range it saves half the gear changes.
When towing is always in sports, rarely gets into 6th, if in drive it is always trying to go up then dropping straight back again, usually on the straights lock it into 5th then does not go up or down of every undulation.
DD
herrBlick
30th August 2013, 07:33 AM
That's good news,
So what's the diagnosis ?
Why is my car stalling in normal gear shift if I floor it ?
Why is my car fine when in sports mode?
Redback
30th August 2013, 08:05 AM
That's good news,
So what's the diagnosis ?
Why is my car stalling in normal gear shift if I floor it ?
Why is my car fine when in sports mode?
It may be gearbox software related, battery, I had a similar issue when in Sth Aust, took it to a dealer in Port Linclon and he upgraded the gearbox software and all was good.
I'd have the re-map removed to count that out first.
Baz.
herrBlick
30th August 2013, 08:44 AM
It may be gearbox software related, battery, I had a similar issue when in Sth Aust, took it to a dealer in Port Linclon and he upgraded the gearbox software and all was good.
I'd have the re-map removed to count that out first.
Baz.
Yes for sure that's what I'm going to do
Graeme
30th August 2013, 07:29 PM
If you had actually changed gears manually then forgot about the shifter position after that, I believe it should still change gear by itself but at much, much higher revs (like an emergency [don't break the engine] change)I downshifted just prior to overtaking then because it changed-up while the boot was still firmly planted I forgot that it was still in manual mode and wondered for second or 2 why the engine was revving so much when now on light throttle.
herrBlick
4th September 2013, 07:47 PM
Everything has been going well but haven't been on a freeway, I am hoping it was just dirty/ rich fuel
Redback
5th September 2013, 07:14 AM
Everything has been going well but haven't been on a freeway, I am hoping it was just dirty/ rich fuel
Are you coming to the D3/4/RRS weekend, would be a shame if you weren't, although you may not want to risk it I imagine.
Baz.
herrBlick
9th September 2013, 06:50 AM
Complete disaster this weekend the car completely did the same thing ...nightmare ...almost killed
herrBlick
9th September 2013, 06:59 PM
Thank god for Ritter's
Turned out to be a cracked turbo hose, all sorted now, been on the freeway all day testing no issues,,,, great.
Thank you
justinc
9th September 2013, 07:06 PM
Thank god for Ritter's
Turned out to be a cracked turbo hose, all sorted now, been on the freeway all day testing no issues,,,, great.
Thank you
Yup, thats a show stopper for the D3....:mad:, I recommend people replace them at 80K old/ 3years MAX!
JC
herrBlick
9th September 2013, 08:02 PM
Yes Justin I have asked if there is anything else lurking and the guy recommended replacing the injectors
justinc
9th September 2013, 08:08 PM
Seriously??:o How many km has it done now???
JC
Graeme
9th September 2013, 08:09 PM
Yup, thats a show stopper for the D3....:mad:, I recommend people replace them at 80K old/ 3years MAX!
JC
Any reports on the 3.0 hoses yet? Mine's heading for 120K.
jonesy63
9th September 2013, 09:56 PM
Yup, thats a show stopper for the D3....:mad:, I recommend people replace them at 80K old/ 3years MAX!
JC
JC - which hose? The long intercooler exit-to-inlet manifold hose? Or all of them?:confused:
justinc
10th September 2013, 06:38 AM
JC - which hose? The long intercooler exit-to-inlet manifold hose? Or all of them?:confused:
yes, the long hose intercooler to manifold/ throttle body.
JC
herrBlick
10th September 2013, 07:18 AM
Seriously??:o How many km has it done now???
JC
It's done 131000 kms
herrBlick
15th September 2013, 05:33 PM
That would be the problem then
65602
~Rich~
15th September 2013, 05:40 PM
Could be, also may not!
Have you read this:
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Go and clean you MAP Sensor NOW!!! (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic64159.html?)
herrBlick
15th September 2013, 05:42 PM
Yes I did that's how I found out about my symptoms
herrBlick
15th September 2013, 05:44 PM
Could be, also may not!
Have you read this:
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Go and clean you MAP Sensor NOW!!! (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic64159.html?)
I am furious Rich how can dealers say they are servicing your car when this happens .....they could have had blood on there hands
~Rich~
15th September 2013, 05:57 PM
Don't get MAF and MAP confused, MAF ( Mass Air Flow)sensor is at the airbox.
MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor is the one in your photo.
Depending on what year your D3 is the earlier models can have their EGR valves blanked to stop the gunk fouling this sensor and dumping crap back into the inlet manifold etc.
Don't touch the MAF one - pretty well problem free that one.
herrBlick
15th September 2013, 06:02 PM
Cheers Rich all good, I was getting annoyed as I am selling the car and did not want to pass on with a known issue , just to be safe I am getting the remap back to my original,
I have a potential buyer and I have been very straight with him about what's going on.. Which he appreciates.
I drove for 2 hours after cleaning trying to replicate special program's fault .....
ALL GOOD
Graeme
15th September 2013, 06:44 PM
Later versions of the MAP sensor have a larger hole, presumably so they don't clog so readily. Note that the 2.7 and 3.0 use the same MAP sensor.
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