Pirelli Scorpion Verde

[John & Deb]

Hi All,

On my 2011 D4 2.7 the OEM 255/60R18 Wranglers are at the end of their life after 55,000km. I was told by the dealer that these tyres are no longer available, but that Pirelli Scorpion Verde are a popular choice.

Another well-known tyre dealer has also suggested these, but apparently they are only available in 265/60R18.

My priority is comfortable quiet highway driving, sometimes with a heavy caravan.

Has anyone out there any experience with the Pirelli Scorpion Verde (not the All-Season)?

Would the small increase in tyre size over the OEM tyre cause any issues?

Appreciate any comments.
Cheers,
John & Deb

[WhiteD3]

John,

The scorpion ATR will do the trick and they come in a 255/60R18. I've had two sets and they are nice and quiet.

[Tombie]

What price are they quoting?

A 265 won't make a big difference, but will make the speedo read about 2km/h closer to reality :cool:

[Crimdog]

265 shouldn't make any difference to the speedo as that relates to the tyre width, they are still a "60" so should still be the same rolling diameter. (I think) :)
depending on what you do with the car will influence the tyre you want. The verde are more road biased that the AT, pirelli are a good tyre though.

[Graeme]

265 shouldn't make any difference to the speedo as that relates to the tyre width, they are still a "60" so should still be the same rolling diameter. (I think)The 60 is the aspect ratio being the percentage of the width (265 in this case) so the diameter is slightly larger.

Check that the load index is high enough.

[sheerluck]

265 shouldn't make any difference to the speedo as that relates to the tyre width, they are still a "60" so should still be the same rolling diameter. (I think) :)........

No quite right I'm afraid. The "60" represents the sidewall height expressed as a ratio of tyre width. So a 255/60-18 has a 153mm sidewall, with an overall diameter of763mm, where the 265/60-18 has a 159mm sidewall and a diameter of 775mm. So half an inch larger in old money.

There's a 37mm difference in circumference too, so a 1.6% change in speedo reading.

[Crimdog]

:o well you learn something new everyday! Glad I put the "(I think )" in there or I would have looked really silly ;) thanks sheerluck. Is that why you are allowed a slightly different rolling diameter legally? To allow for different width tyres? Seems silly to have some literal measurements and some rational measurements on the tyre, why not call a spade a spade, would make it easier. Or I guess we can all just learn the right info haha :D

[sheerluck]

:o well you learn something new everyday! Glad I put the "(I think )" in there or I would have looked really silly ;) thanks sheerluck. Is that why you are allowed a slightly different rolling diameter legally? To allow for different width tyres? Seems silly to have some literal measurements and some rational measurements on the tyre, why not call a spade a spade, would make it easier. Or I guess we can all just learn the right info haha :D

Easy way to do it is use the calculator here: Tire size calculator (http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html)

[DiscoWeb]

Hi All,



Has anyone out there any experience with the Pirelli Scorpion Verde (not the All-Season)?

Would the small increase in tyre size over the OEM tyre cause any issues?

Appreciate any comments.
Cheers,
John & Deb

John&Deb,

1. Not heard of the Scorpion Verde but as mentioned the Scorpion ATR are a quality tyre that whilst being ATR (all terrain) have a pretty road oriented tread. Yokohama make a Geolander that might fit your bill as well.

2. The small increase in size from 255/60 - 265/60 will make no noticeable difference and are well within the legal limits.

Regard,

George

[NomadicD3]

Hi Deb and John,
I've been running the verde on the 19 inch wheels for nearly a year and almost 20 000k's. They are a great feel tyre, quiet and great braking ability on the road. The wear rate seems very good, they'll probably be good for over 70k. I don't run them offroad but given the tread pattern and as previously mentioned It, would probably be unadvisable.
As George has also mentioned, the scorpion would give you better road variety options and I was running them before the verde and found them to be excellent and surprisingly capable offroad. It's an ATR that does both on and offroad very well, brakes and handles well and good for mileage.

regards
Brian

[Graeme]

2. The small increase in size from 255/60 - 265/60 will make no noticeable difference and are well within the legal limits.Not much difference but enough to trigger ABS & steering angle sensor faults if mixed.

[Crimdog]

sticking with pirelli, have you looked at the scorpian zero? they come in the size you are after. They are a little bit more capable off road than the verde while still being high performance on road!

[John & Deb]

Crimdog,

Is that the Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico, with continuous central rib, or the Scorpion Zero itself?

Cheers

[Crimdog]

The zero itself. The other one doesn't come in the size you want and is not as good off road (better on road though). They are on the disco I am buying at the moment, the guy said they have been great only thing is he only got about 50k kms out of them which depending how you drive is probably on the slightly low side.

[DiscoWeb]

Not much difference but enough to trigger ABS & steering angle sensor faults if mixed.

Graeme,

Agreed.

Can not mix sizes with the D3/D4 as it plays havoc with the drive train and sensors as things are move at different speeds etc so constantly tries to correct it.

If all 5 are done there is no noticeable difference.

George

[Graeme]

I use 245/70-17 which are also just a little larger than stock sizes.

[BigJon]

Seems silly to have some literal measurements and some rational measurements on the tyre, why not call a spade a spade, would make it easier.

Makes about as much sense as having the wheel diameter measure din inches and the rest of the spec using the metric system.