Wheel alignment

[mtb_gary]

I've just been doing the ring around for pricing on a wheel alignment, range from $55 to $120??? When queried re the high price of one of the quotes the comment back was that they align the rears on Land Rovers therefore it takes longer. Now, correct me if I am wrong but the p38 does not have adjustable alignment for the rear.

Gary

[Fitzy2011]

They never touched the rear of mine when they did it!!!

[benji]

On the p38 that is correct. Toe in and out are the only adjustables. Castor and camber cannot be adjusted either, almost had an argument about that at Pedders.

However, any landrover with independent rear suspension will have an adjustable alignment on the back too, maybe he was thinking of the l322?

Make sure you get the print out of the alignment, as a LOT of alignment places simply put a few mm of toe in on all cars. 0.6 to 1.8mm toe out is correct for the p38.

[mtb_gary]

On the p38 that is correct. Toe in and out are the only adjustables. Castor and camber cannot be adjusted either, almost had an argument about that at Pedders.

However, any landrover with independent rear suspension will have an adjustable alignment on the back too, maybe he was thinking of the l322?

Make sure you get the print out of the alignment, as a LOT of alignment places simply put a few mm of toe in on all cars. 0.6 to 1.8mm toe out is correct for the p38.

Benji, you confirmed my thoughts!

Gary

[davidsonsm]

who came out cheapest?

[Hoges]

I mentioned one of these Trackace Laser Wheel Alignment Tool | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TRACKACE-Laser-Wheel-Alignment-Tool-/130951375096?) in another thread and got less than complimentary remarks from those who do it with strings and chalk marks... anyway it does work very well indeed.
cheers

[mtb_gary]

who came out cheapest?

Bob Jane Joondalup - it's booked in for 8:00 Thursday morning, not too far from home.

Gary

[Homestar]

What happened to the piece of string, bit of chalk and a tape measure?..:D:wasntme:

[benji]

What happened to the piece of string, bit of chalk and a tape measure?..:D:wasntme:

Lol, and I actually resisted biting, there's always one :p

[FANTOM P38]

Maybe they were thinking about adjusting rear panhard rod??

[Hoges]

Lol, and I actually resisted biting, there's always one :p

:eek::angel::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

[benji]

Maybe they were thinking about adjusting rear panhard rod??

Panhard rods aren't usually adjustable. You can get adjustable ones, but usually only for big lifts or modified diff housings.

Hoges have you found your neo-classical chalk and tape measure pretty accurate? My front tires are wearing heavily on the inside and outside (vc is all good).

[Keithy P38]

Tyre pressure!

I combatted early inner/outer tyre wear with my km2's by running 36psi up front.

Basically I adjust my rears to have a similar footprint to the front. Also, I put my more-worn tyres on the front to allow the higher pressures.

Cheers
Keithy

[Hoges]

Panhard rods aren't usually adjustable. You can get adjustable ones, but usually only for big lifts or modified diff housings.

Hoges have you found your neo-classical chalk and tape measure pretty accurate? My front tires are wearing heavily on the inside and outside (vc is all good).

I haven't tested the results against a commercial machine... however I made several measurements and averaged 1 deg 40min +/- toe in. The steering wheel was also way off centre due to repalcing the drag link. Having reset the steering wheel and altered the toe in/out to 0 deg +/- 5min as per spec, the tracking has improved considerably and it no longer pulls as heavily to the left as it did previously.

Once you get the hang of it, you can measure the alignment to within 5' (1/12th of a degree) in just a few minutes. It's really quick and far more precise than trying to measure toe in/out in terms of mm ...

cheers

[benji]

Sounds like that's me after I've recouped from the bar. Thanks.

[TheTree]

My front tires are wearing heavily on the inside and outside (vc is all good).

Hi

Under inflation wear for sure !

Steve

[benji]

Except for off road stuff I've kept them between 28 and 34; I was thinking the same thing about the pressures.. I'll try running 38 for the next few months and see how it goes, but they're barely legal know. I've got new road tires to go on but want to get this sorted first or in 12 months time I'll be looking for road tires instead of km2s.

Admittedly ive never checked the tie rod ends.
Do the upper and lower swivel balls wear and allow movement at all?

[mtb_gary]

Job done

Whilst not a huge change in geometry, there is less tramlining effect, overall pretty happy with the result :D. Note the car does have a 2" HRA lift kit installed. At the time of alignment I had the 18" road wheels and tyres, Toyo Proxes ST II 255 55 18.

Gary

[Keithy P38]

Looking good there! It wasn't out by a great deal!

[mtb_gary]

Looking good there! It wasn't out by a great deal!
That was judging by eye - no strings, chalk or lasers involved :D

Gary