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DasLandRoverMan
4th September 2013, 04:27 AM
Possibly of interest, possibly not, I'm currently pricing up having some fuel tanks made as a vehicle I'm working on for a customer has developed the standard 'porous tank' problem.
Spec is 3mm steel, either standard size or 40mm deeper than the standard tank for extra capacity.
I should have a definitive price in the next day or so, but rough guess is around £350, if there's enough interest we can no doubt sort a decent price for shipping and distribution over there.
These will be made to order and will require a reasonable chunk of money up front as I can't afford to get them made on a promise and be left with a pile of the things because minds have changed, something like the rocky mountain door tops, although it seems the Aussies are willing to out their money were there mouthes are in this sort of case.
I can price them in stainless if there's interest, although I'm of the opinion that 3mm steel would be more than substantial enough, and with a good coat of paint, suitably long lasting.
Anyways, please register your interest and I'll supply more details as I get them.
101RRS
4th September 2013, 11:19 AM
So are these designed to fit in the tank cradle like the OEM tanks did or like the aussie tanks that do not use the cradle and bolt directly to the chassis outriggers with their integral mounts.
The Aussie system is superior to the UK system and indeed I have no heard of any aussie tanks rusting out.
roobar_and_custard
4th September 2013, 11:52 AM
I bet the Aussie 101's would rust if used on English roads in winter...
The lack of rust on old cars here in Australia is quite remarkable. I have a 1956 Series 1 with the original chassis, with only surface rust! That would never happen in the UK!
101RRS
4th September 2013, 01:31 PM
Maybe but the OEM have a cradle where the dirt and moisture gets in and rusts the metal - aussie ones do not have the rust trap and are made of very thick steel - not tin.
DasLandRoverMan
4th September 2013, 03:07 PM
Having them done Aussie style, hence building them in 3mm.
Sitec
4th September 2013, 03:39 PM
Here's one of my tanks ready for testing! It's 690mm long (to make room for an air tank which will become part of it shortly), 290mm deep, which matches the air tank depth, and 490mm wide. 3mm ends, and 2mm bottom and sides all out of one piece. Just got to fit the angle for the front and a few other things to the rear and its good to go.
101RRS
4th September 2013, 03:45 PM
Why the cut corners when looking at the cross section? Seems you loose a bit of capacity. I assume you need air tanks for the engine you are putting in - seems a shame to also loose fuel capacity because of these - surely they would have fitted elsewhere - like the front of the rear wheel arches - or under neath or in the tunnel in front of the radiator.
Garry
Sitec
4th September 2013, 04:03 PM
The cut corners are to allow for a side 'rock slider' type rail which is planned further down the track. These tanks are deeper and wider than the original, and only 300 mm shorter. As there will be a pair, the capacity will increase considerably.. Not only that it gives me room for the air tank on the right (air clutch, air locker, air for tyres, air for train horns...), and I can mount 2 x N70ZZ batteries behind the left tank, getting them out of the cab and lowering the weight. Sorry to have hijacked this thread Das! :wasntme:
DasLandRoverMan
5th September 2013, 11:45 PM
Spoke to the fabricators earlier.
Price per unit is £350 for it done by them in steel, although I might be able to get it down if there was an order larger than one.
I also ended up in contact with another company who could do the same thing but in 3mm aluminium for similar money, but would want a drawing sending over to allow them to cost it properly.
Worth me doing?
Anyways, both compare well to the 101 clubs stainless copy of the original at £425+VAT.
Coincidentally they seem to have taken offence and deleted my post about the tanks over there.
Sitec
6th September 2013, 06:21 AM
Really???? That's sad!! Why wud they delete it???
00ec25
6th September 2013, 08:33 AM
Really???? That's sad!! Why wud they delete it???
in exactly the same way that the AULRO forum has rules about commercial advertising it was considered that a non member advertising items specifically made with the intention to sell was unacceptable as it was done for personal gain and furthermore was an item that at least partly competes with the club's own item, given that one is SS and one is MS
Given your attitude to the club i suspect you will reject this explanation but you did ask why and that is the reason
spongie
6th September 2013, 08:34 AM
I could do drawings if needed Dave
Sitec
6th September 2013, 12:03 PM
in exactly the same way that the AULRO forum has rules about commercial advertising it was considered that a non member advertising items specifically made with the intention to sell was unacceptable as it was done for personal gain and furthermore was an item that at least partly competes with the club's own item, given that one is SS and one is MS
I would have thought that if someone is offering to make heavy duty tanks for the figure mentioned, they are doing it to help others with a fairly unique vehicle, and not exactly making huge coin out of it. I am also lucky enough to have the skills to make tanks etc, and would have done exactly the same.... if I had the time and energy. I understand exactly what you are saying though.... I've not seen your tanks, but, if they are modelled on the original 101 tank which is soldered together, and sits in a moisture trapping cradle then an 'Aussie Spec' heavy steel tank would be my choice. That said, I'd like to see pics of your tanks and prices to make a fair comparison.....
Homestar
7th September 2013, 09:12 AM
in exactly the same way that the AULRO forum has rules about commercial advertising it was considered that a non member advertising items specifically made with the intention to sell was unacceptable as it was done for personal gain and furthermore was an item that at least partly competes with the club's own item, given that one is SS and one is MS
Given your attitude to the club i suspect you will reject this explanation but you did ask why and that is the reason
That would be the reason, as there is a for sale section there. And probably quite rightly. The 101 club runs a parts department, so I can see why they wouldn't want competition to that.
Mick_Marsh
7th September 2013, 10:07 AM
Given your attitude to the club i suspect you will reject this explanation but you did ask why and that is the reason
My attitude to the 101 club is well documented elsewhere on this site.
I am a member of the club and encourage the 101 owners I meet to join it. There is, however, a committee member who is undoing my efforts and driving people away.
You wouldn't happen to know this recalcitrant fellow, would you?
So the 101 club has their S/S fuel tanks in stock. Some tome ago I made enquiries to buy a S/S tank. There were none in stock and at the time there were doubts as to whether the stock would be replenished. I had to make other arrangements.
All three of my 101's have the original factory fuel tanks. I wouldn't mind an Aussie spec'd one or two.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1412.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/Lake%20Goldsmith%20April%202011/DSCF1370.jpg.html)
DasLandRoverMan
7th September 2013, 04:40 PM
I'll have a steel tank to take a few pictures of before it goes on the vehicle in a week or so (by which i mean I'll get it in around a week).
Looking at that photo it'll be pretty much the same as Aussie spec, although perhaps a little deeper.
Single unit price is still £350, might get a discount from the fabricator for a multiple order, and will price ally properly if there's interest.
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