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roverrescue
4th September 2013, 06:09 AM
Sooo,
Was looking through some photos of trips this year and came across this little gem.
Do you see what I see?????

Steve

roverrescue
4th September 2013, 06:10 AM
Perhaps this will make it a little easier...

S

munro
4th September 2013, 06:27 AM
Good morning Traveller. The waters fine, come on in.:ninja:

R Miller
4th September 2013, 06:39 AM
stuff that!

Redback
4th September 2013, 06:41 AM
Amazing the difference a polerised lense makes, nice little freshy lying in wait or hiding:)

Baz.

SBD4
4th September 2013, 08:03 AM
Sneaky bugger!

sheerluck
4th September 2013, 08:08 AM
I think I may avoid trying to cool my feet off in that particular little creek.

Lotz-A-Landies
4th September 2013, 09:42 AM
But do you know that polarised lenses and windscreens can create blind spots. Areas of usually clear vision that are absent to the eye when the two lenses interact. It is the oposite effect to the lens test where two polarised lenses are rotated until blackout occurs.

A number of senior Highway Patrol officers over the years have expressed the view that polarised lens glasses are the cause on numerous otherwise unexplained head-on crashes.

Eevo
4th September 2013, 09:59 AM
But do you know that polarised lenses and windscreens can create blind spots. Areas of usually clear vision that are absent to the eye when the two lenses interact. It is the oposite effect to the lens test where two polarised lenses are rotated until blackout occurs.

A number of senior Highway Patrol officers over the years have expressed the view that polarised lens glasses are the cause on numerous otherwise unexplained head-on crashes.

+1

as a pilot i wont fly with polarised sunnies

roverrescue
4th September 2013, 10:32 AM
Being the proud owner of a nice set of pterygiums, I essentially dont go outside up in this part of the world without my Spotters... they are photochromatic so I pretty well wear them from dawn till dusk.

I have heard of moto riders not liking polaroids due to the potential of missing water patches on the road. Airplanes definitely have an issue too but that is due to the curved plastic screens that are used on planes. The curvature and internal reflection in the plastic causes light to be split which can be exagerated or cancelled by the polarized sunnies.

I guess some new vehiles with special tinted, heated and heavily raked, curved glass might have similar internal reflections like aircraft. In a deefer with flat non tinted clear glass I have never had a problem, nor in the mrs VY commo which has raked and curved screen with a tint to it????

Either way in the case of walking a river chasing barra or toga - I think Ill keep the polarizers on my head ;)

S

roobar_and_custard
4th September 2013, 11:44 AM
I don't believe the car manufacturers use polarised windscreens for the very reason of safety associated with sunglasses... You can check by looking through your sunnies whist rotating them - if the windscreen becomes opaque(can't see through) then it is polarised.
I suspect the "real" reason for unexplained crashes is the lack of reasonable (honest) explanation from the driver.
I do find it much harder to see oncoming traffic with my eyes shut!
However, wearing sunglasses and not stepping into that creek...
Ian

Lotz-A-Landies
4th September 2013, 05:49 PM
As Roverrescue says, its the curvature of the glass or plastic screens that interact with the polarised lenses not innate polarising of the windscreen glass. If they were polarised, you would get the blackout effect.

As for pterygiums, polarised lenses will do nothing more than any other sunglass lens. What is important is that the lens is a wrap around style that prevents or reduces sunlight entering the eye through the outer canthis.

LandyAndy
4th September 2013, 07:56 PM
Im looking at getting a decent set of polarasing sunnies,mainly for fishing.
I lost my last pair overboard that wernt that special,Jarvis Walker cheapies.
I cant wear sunnies in the grader as the tint is too dark and I cant see the blade when its in shadow.
Would be very interested in any reviews you guys have of upper market fishing glasses.I like the idea of your photocromatic Spotters Roverrescue,I may even be able to wear them whilst grading.
Thanks
Andrew

roverrescue
4th September 2013, 09:13 PM
True Lotz that polarized offer no further benefit for eye damage than normal sunnies
BUT
as a general rule if Im out in the sun chances are Im either on the water, looking for fish, or wishing I was ;)
I have no need for sunnies that dont help me in those endeavours!!!!

Andrew,
In absolute all honesty - the best money I have ever spent on fishing gear -
Spotters Penetrators (photochromatic)
easily worth every cent.

A few months ago we were blasting along in the blue along a reef edge.
I was picking a line between the bommies at full noise
Had a mate being a bit twitchy next to me - asked him why and he said cos your pretty close to all these bommies.
For a test we swapped eyes... I could vaguely see some grey patches that would likely represented ugliness at 38kn... swapped back to the Spotters and voila clear as day bommies sticking out amongst the deep.

Prior to the Spotters I went from pair to pair of plastic lense "cheapies" which after 6 or so months would be scratched terribly. The Spotters glass is 10 times tougher and a zillion times better optics than any $30-$60 cheapy plastic polarized sunnies.

I cant recommend them enough and if mine were lost/stolen etc etc I would buy another pair straight away.

Steve

ps

That little gator stood out much clearer in my spotters than in that photo using a circ polarizer on the Nikon ;)

Dougal
4th September 2013, 09:21 PM
Polarised make it damn near impossible to read the stereo display too.

I'm perfectly happy living in a country without surprises like that one lurking in the water.

Eevo
4th September 2013, 09:22 PM
Polarised make it damn near impossible to read the stereo display too.

LED displays are polarised.

bee utey
4th September 2013, 09:33 PM
LED displays are polarised.
LCD you mean...

Eevo
4th September 2013, 09:36 PM
LCD you mean...

hi, my names veeo and im tired.

yes i do, lol

superquag
4th September 2013, 10:14 PM
Copper/Bronze seems to be the most favoured colour, certainly over brown which can cause headache/eyestrain problems for some folk. (I ditched my new pair of brown Zeiss Umbrals for that reason...)

The there's yellow polarized, - just to muddy the waters.... :eek:

LandyAndy
5th September 2013, 07:16 PM
Hi Steve.
Went to Perth today on a parts run,had to wait a few hours to pick up a secondhand Rodeo motor as it was still in the wreck.
Went to several camping stores and fishing stores,you would be surprised how little product knowledge the people selling them have.3 stores told me Spotters dont make photochromatic lenses,despite selling them.2 chains bagged Spotters,and wanted me to buy UglyFish.
In the end I got a set from a BCF store,the pimply face boy now knows what photochromatic lenses are.
They wernt cheap:(:(:(:(:(:(.I have been suffering quite a bit of eye strain,was almost ready to go and see if I needed glasses.These sunnies are brilliant,no eye strain on the 160km trip home,didt need to rub my eyes at all.
Went for the Halide lenses. Spotters - Halide Revolution | News (http://www.spotters.com.au/news/halide-revolution)

Now to get the boat serviced and the HDS 9 ordered:angel::angel::angel::angel::angel::angel:
Need to get out on the water now winter is gone:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

superquag
5th September 2013, 07:52 PM
Dr Land, inventor of Polarized lenses,was actually chasing a glare-free headlight solution, - His one invention that was never used...

Polarized headlights without glare (http://www.polarization.com/land/land.html)

Ancient Mariner
5th September 2013, 08:03 PM
After having a pterygium removed I think they used a 9"grinder and a bag needle for the stiches:( any sunglasses self tapped on would be better than going thru that again:cool:

AM

roverrescue
5th September 2013, 10:10 PM
andy,
The halides had just been released when i bought mine
Local bloke had none in so i went with penetrators
The sting of the price will fade. but the quality will remain :-)

S

LandyAndy
6th September 2013, 06:52 PM
andy,
The halides had just been released when i bought mine
Local bloke had none in so i went with penetrators
The sting of the price will fade. but the quality will remain :-)

S

Cloudy day here today.
Wore them all day in the grader without a problem so money well spent.
Eyes arent aching either:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

Reads90
6th September 2013, 07:01 PM
I drive all day every day for my job. Just today drive back from Rockhampton to Brisbane. So do about 60-70,000 ks a year in a car in North NSW , all over Qld and NT


So due to this i only wear Ray Bran Polarised sunnies. Main reason is they don't show the reflection on the inside of the windscreen of the dash. Also believe them to be a lot better than normal glasses

But understand the problem as can make crapy tinting look wired and funny and turn your iphone sideways and it will go dark or even go black.

Vern
6th September 2013, 08:28 PM
Im looking at getting a decent set of polarasing sunnies,mainly for fishing.
I lost my last pair overboard that wernt that special,Jarvis Walker cheapies.
I cant wear sunnies in the grader as the tint is too dark and I cant see the blade when its in shadow.
Would be very interested in any reviews you guys have of upper market fishing glasses.I like the idea of your photocromatic Spotters Roverrescue,I may even be able to wear them whilst grading.
Thanks
Andrew

My old man (rip) was a professional fisherman, part of his fishing season was spent up at "the lookout" on the cliffs of Portsea front beach spotting schools of fish (mullet, bay trout, Australian salmon) swim into there netting zone, where he would signal a fellow employee to row a dingy out whilst the net would spool off the back of the boat, and do a lap around the fish. He only used Polaroids which he would buy at the local chemist, now this goes back 20+ years, before you had these new breed of sunnies and before people would spend $200 on sunnies. All I'm saying, is he only needed $20 sunnies, he could spot a single fish from over 200metres. May be he ate his carrots, you never see a bunny wearing glasses now do you.
He was also good at spotting "white pointers", and no I don't mean the fish kind:D

roverrescue
6th September 2013, 09:18 PM
Vern,
I dont disagree but these days "polaroid" $20 sunnies are $50 - $60 and are made with plastic lenses. I use to buy them and was happy.
I would go through a pair every 6 months due to scratches from chucking them in the centre console, bashing through scrub etc etc

Spotters may be $200 but mine are now going on 2 years, scratch free and clear as the day I got them.

And besides $50 polaroids vs $200 Spotters is kinda like comparing a 300tdi to a zuzu
both are diesel, both rattle and make noise, both get you from a to b,
B..U..T...

Steve

Reads90
6th September 2013, 09:32 PM
Vern,
I dont disagree but these days "polaroid" $20 sunnies are $50 - $60 and are made with plastic lenses. I use to buy them and was happy.
I would go through a pair every 6 months due to scratches from chucking them in the centre console, bashing through scrub etc etc

Spotters may be $200 but mine are now going on 2 years, scratch free and clear as the day I got them.

And besides $50 polaroids vs $200 Spotters is kinda like comparing a 300tdi to a zuzu
both are diesel, both rattle and make noise, both get you from a to b,
B..U..T...

Steve

Totally agree

I was playing golf with a bloke the other day who was wear a $50 pair of plastic polarised sunnies and he asked what was so special about my Ray Bans so I let him wear them. He was shocked and said they were like wearing nothing , they were so clear. He admitted that they were worth the money after wearing them.

I have four pairs one in each car. Can't live with out them love them.

isuzurover
6th September 2013, 11:38 PM
Hi Steve.
Went to Perth today on a parts run,had to wait a few hours ...

Could have dropped in Andy...

Tombie
7th September 2013, 02:51 AM
I'm an avid fan of Rudy Project gear...

Interchangeable lenses :)

On site, the darkest, polarised, photochromic lenses live in the frame...

Vern
7th September 2013, 08:03 AM
Vern,
I dont disagree but these days "polaroid" $20 sunnies are $50 - $60 and are made with plastic lenses. I use to buy them and was happy.
I would go through a pair every 6 months due to scratches from chucking them in the centre console, bashing through scrub etc etc

Spotters may be $200 but mine are now going on 2 years, scratch free and clear as the day I got them.

And besides $50 polaroids vs $200 Spotters is kinda like comparing a 300tdi to a zuzu
both are diesel, both rattle and make noise, both get you from a to b,
B..U..T...

Steveyeah totally agree, but 20+ years ago there wasn't much around, and in the fishing game, $200 sunnies would have died pretty quick. I wear cheap sunnies for work, and good sunnies for looking cool (Otis). I like the real glass lenses, so much better than plastic, I was looking for sunnies last week (cool dude looking ones:)) and all the plastic lenses $200 sunnies just felt cheap and way over priced, so once again I opted for Otis eye wear sunnies, made in WA, but couldn't justify $300 for polarized ones, so just got there normal ones, this is my third pair, so nice to look through, but the only problem with glass, it smashes:(

kenleyfred
11th September 2013, 10:53 AM
For those of you with Spotters, I'm after a decent pair of sunnies.
I've tried the Penetrator and Halide, they are both fantastic and I'm struggling to choose between the two.
Are there any reasons why one is better than the other?
Kenley

Stuck
11th September 2013, 04:20 PM
And you post this this side of fathers day :censored:.

Just joking.

roverrescue
11th September 2013, 07:14 PM
For those of you with Spotters, I'm after a decent pair of sunnies.
I've tried the Penetrator and Halide, they are both fantastic and I'm struggling to choose between the two.

Kenley,
Just this week wifey and I just went down to the local guy and bought a pair of Spotters for her...
The difference between Penetrators and Halides is simple
Both are photochromatic crown glass lenses with a "brown" tint.
Halides are a darker tint than Penetrators
Sooo in middle of day Halides will be darker, in low light Penetrators will be less dark.

Kris preferred the look of the halides and went with them

I still prefer Penetrators - they are dark enough in full midday sun for me and I love that while walking through closed in rainforest scrub I can still keep them on and save my eyeballs from stinking wait-a-while!!!!!

I reckon it will come down to a personal choice. Go to a friendly stockist grab a pair of each and go outside and play with both pairs. If they wont let you do this find someone who will!!!!!

Steve

Ean Austral
11th September 2013, 07:33 PM
When I was fishing I tried many different brands of sunnies, in the end I went to a optical technician and got him to make me some sunnies.

Sounds expensive but wasn't anywhere near the price of ray-bans or Bolle etc, and got him to make the frames to suit my needs... I don't like wrap around sunnies, but got him to fill in the sides for me cause that's what I needed.

They were by far the best sunnies I ever had, lasted me for 4 yrs till they ended up going to the bottom of the gulf of carpenteria and if I was still at sea I would track down another tech and get the same done again.

These days just wear the standard polaroid from the cancer council stand.

Just my 2c

Cheers Ean

LandyAndy
11th September 2013, 07:57 PM
For those of you with Spotters, I'm after a decent pair of sunnies.
I've tried the Penetrator and Halide, they are both fantastic and I'm struggling to choose between the two.
Are there any reasons why one is better than the other?
Kenley

I just bought the Halide.They are awesome,only used them for work sofar,BUT I have stopped at creek crossings and looked into the waters,have seen yabbies crawling around,cant see them without the glasses.
Looking forward to a sea test;);););)
Andrew

kenleyfred
18th September 2013, 04:35 PM
WOW. Thanks for putting me onto Spotters, and for the advice on which type. Although side by side I think I preferred the penetrator I ended up buying the halide today. I think the more advanced glass might serve me better.
Only used them for the short drive home so far, but what a difference over the old crappy pair I had. Can't wait for work tomorrow to give them a prolonged test.
Kenley