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Danjeffery
10th September 2013, 06:00 PM
Hey guys I know this has probably been asked a thousand times before but... I did a search and nothing came up that I was after...
I'm after a lift kit, or separate components to lift my 2010, 130. Am looking for something decent (as always)
I'm coming from a SWB Patrol that had a huge lift and 35" tyres and locked. I just want a lift that will pick it up a little so a 2" will probably do (all that's legal now anyways)
Cheers
Dan

chook73
10th September 2013, 06:07 PM
Lifting a 2010 defender is possible but a potential world of pain, more than likely you will need a double cardon shaft, drop your sway bars and move them forward change your radius arms and ideally your trailing arms.

I had a 40mm lift and I ended up doing all of the above and still had a few unresolved bugs.

Drover
10th September 2013, 06:12 PM
Terra-Firma do some good kits (4 springs, 4 shocks) from about $640. You can up grade shock to TF Pro Sports or the big Expiditions and springs to their heavy duty versions.

Try these guys, easy to deal with and sponsor this site

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Be aware that if you lift a PUMA you will need a Double-Cardon front prop shaft. The static angle of the front shaft at stock height is right on its limit. With a lift it will bind at full drop and vibrate from 80km/h on wards.

Danjeffery
10th September 2013, 06:15 PM
Thanks guys
I was speaking to one of the guys at Ricks 4wd centre today at Nerang and he said that a 40mm lift is about the maximum without changing a lot... He was only using king springs which concerned me.
Might try some bigger rubber and see if the lift is necessary.
I wouldn't mind keeping the heavy duty springs in the rear as at the moment it's rated to carry over a tonne. Pity about the front drive shaft, double cardon jacks the price up pretty quick

isuzurover
10th September 2013, 06:16 PM
Body or spring lift?

A body lift is difficult and unnecessary on a 130. AFAIK there are no off the shelf kits.

Spring lifts have been done, however you need to have a read of the threads on lifting a puma, in essence you need a DC front prop as the standard prop binds easily when lifted.

That said, you can fit up to 37's without any lift.

Danjeffery
10th September 2013, 06:20 PM
That said, you can fit up to 37's without any lift.

Was talking spring lift, do you know what offset rims you would need to run to fit 35" ? And sure they would scrub on full suspension squat

chook73
10th September 2013, 06:26 PM
That said, you can fit up to 37's without any lift.

:eek: I run 4" portals on stock height suspension and I think I could just stuff 37" in there. 37" on stock suspension would have no travel......

This is a 35" with 4" portals heavy duty springs and no load.....

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1185.jpg

Drover
10th September 2013, 06:41 PM
I've got 33's with a 50mm lift and had to change the stock flares because excessive rubbing on the rears. Oh and they stuck outside the guards.

Sitec
10th September 2013, 06:44 PM
:eek: I run 4" portals on stock height suspension and I think I could just stuff 37" in there. 37" on stock suspension would have no travel......

This is a 35" with 4" portals heavy duty springs and no load.....

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1185.jpg

Thought my old 130 looked good with 75mm at the front, 40mm at the rear and 285's, but that thing looks great!! More pics please!! :)

chook73
10th September 2013, 06:49 PM
Thought my old 130 looked good with 75mm at the front, 40mm at the rear and 285's, but that thing looks great!! More pics please!! :)

Have a look at my build thread, heaps of pics there

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-rides/85537-chooks-defender-110-a.html

isuzurover
10th September 2013, 06:51 PM
:eek: I run 4" portals on stock height suspension and I think I could just stuff 37" in there. 37" on stock suspension would have no travel......

This is a 35" with 4" portals heavy duty springs and no load.....



EDIT: Just checked back through old threads on pirate...
Micka used to run 37's on a Td5 110 with 4" lift.
CAL415 used to have 37's on a county with 2" lift
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1184.jpg

LowRanger
10th September 2013, 06:56 PM
Micka (not sure of his username on here) used to run 37's on a Td5 110 (IRC with no lift).

37's on a 110 with no lift = no suspension travel:confused:

newhue
10th September 2013, 08:19 PM
maybe sell it and buy another patrol.

Danjeffery
10th September 2013, 08:24 PM
If I wanted another patrol I would have bought one

justinc
10th September 2013, 08:56 PM
Don't lift it, ESPECIALLY a Puma 130.

It'll cost you a lot of $$$ to get it right.

JC

newhue
10th September 2013, 08:59 PM
maybe just give it a run for while and see how it goes. Most of us on here do just fine without lifts, 35's, or 37's.

If you go 35's, you'll be putting ring gear in it as the 2.4 won't spin them all that well. But of course, you can chip or map it to make up for it.
Many on here have required double cardan shafts as a minimum with a 40mm lift.

isuzurover
10th September 2013, 09:03 PM
...


If you go 35's, you'll be putting ring gear in it as the 2.4 won't spin them all that well. ...

:D I knew a guy who ran 35's in his 300tdi 130 with 3.54s... (No or minimal lift on that one too) If he didn't complain then a puma owner shouldn't...

Danjeffery
11th September 2013, 06:13 AM
Ill try some tyres first, thanks guys!
I wasn't planning on running 35"s might try some 33"s and see what I need from there. The standard continentals actually surprised me with what they could do

goingbush
11th September 2013, 06:24 AM
but put Contis on a patrol and it will get bogged on yr front lawn, welcome to the Defender.

Danjeffery
11th September 2013, 06:36 AM
They're not a bad thing if the Patrols are set up right, have had the Defender since Easter so have been out a few times already.
Levuka was our first trip out, was different going from a SWB to a LWB without lockers at tyres. Did better than I was expecting though.
Been to Fraser and was obviously fine over there
Glass house mountains was a little too muddy for all terrains but at least the winch works. Saw us diffed out quite a bit too
But like I said earlier if I wanted another Patrol I wouldn't have gotten a Defender. Am just trying to get some useful information so far so good!

LowRanger
11th September 2013, 09:46 AM
255/85/16's will be the perfect tyre for your 130,they are just over 33" and look like they belong;)And as you mentioned,you can't compare a SWB Patrol with big wheels and suspension to a standard 130.But with just a few judicious modifications,and depending on what you want to do with it,maybe lockers.The 130 will surprise you with how competent they are.And you can carry loads you wouldn't even contemplate with a Patrol,whilst doing it:D;)

Crewcab555555
6th November 2017, 08:46 PM
Hi Mate,

Hope you well, may i know where did you buy the hutchinson wheel in oz ?

Thanking you,





:eek: I run 4" portals on stock height suspension and I think I could just stuff 37" in there. 37" on stock suspension would have no travel......

This is a 35" with 4" portals heavy duty springs and no load.....

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1185.jpg

POD
7th November 2017, 09:13 AM
I have 255/85 on standard 'wolf' rims on a 130, I had to lift my tray but the 750/16 that were on it also used to rub under the tray. I have spring lift also, couldn't tell you exactly how much over standard height, probably 40-50mm. Coming from a RR, the extra 30" of wheelbase (plus I have a fair bit of rear overhang) needed a lift to be able to do what I used to in the RR without getting hung up.
Give Andrew at Les Richmond a call, he will probably ask you to go over a weighbridge to get front & rear axle weights then will be able to recommend a spring to give you whatever height you want at the bumpstop.
If you do go with a lift, you will need (note 'will need', not 'might need') a double-cardan front propshaft, mine was about $750 from Tom Woods in the US. You'll also need to do something with the rear end chassis-to-radius-arm bushes, standard ones won't last with the extra angle. Les Richmond do a bush with the extra angle moulded in, seem to be lasting ok on mine.

weeds
7th November 2017, 10:24 AM
Hi Mate,

Hope you well, may i know where did you buy the hutchinson wheel in oz ?

Thanking you,

Chook returned the car back to stock and sold I think. Not sure what happen with the portals and wheels

Chook now has a 70 series cruiser so probably doesn’t log into AULRO anymore. Maybe shoot him a PM that way he might get an email notification.

Crewcab555555
7th November 2017, 11:06 AM
Thank you


Chook returned the car back to stock and sold I think. Not sure what happen with the portals and wheels

Chook now has a 70 series cruiser so probably doesn’t log into AULRO anymore. Maybe shoot him a PM that way he might get an email notification.

Danjeffery
7th November 2017, 02:22 PM
My 130 has come a fair distance since origionalky posting this up.
50mm lift, long travel shocks, retained springs, front double cardan wide angle shaft, wide angle rear shaft and all the other bits along the way that go with it.
I put the 315/75/16 on when heading out for a wheel. And run 265/75 all terrains on road.

incisor
7th November 2017, 03:47 PM
I put the 315/75/16 on when heading out for a wheel.

what rims you running in th second pic?

Danjeffery
7th November 2017, 04:27 PM
what rims you running in th second pic?

Dynamic Sunraysia. Round hole -25 off set 16x8"

POD
7th November 2017, 05:00 PM
Ha, I replied to the original question without noticing it was posted in 2013.

Danjeffery
7th November 2017, 08:10 PM
Ha, I replied to the original question without noticing it was posted in 2013.

You did answer the question though!