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[p38brickus]

Hi Ladies and Gentlemen,
Having just purchased a 2001 4.6 HSE I shall no doubt spend some time here wondering what is wrong with it and how to fix it.
Wish me (and my wallet) luck as you wave me Goodbye! :)

[mtb_gary]

Welcome aboard. Hopefully your wallet will not be drained (too quickly). To use a quote I have seen on the forum previously (can't remember who it was sorry) service it like it's an aircraft and you will be fine.
Do you intend getting off road or sticking to the black stuff?

Gary

[davidsonsm]

Post some pictures. You could be telling fibs! Good on ya. Tell us a bit more about it. Standard? Mods. Any plans for it? Any immediate concerns or jobs to do?

[benji]

Welcome.

Yes, photos, cause Matchbox made a clear indicated p38, is it green like my one?:D

Seriously though, you'll find a wealth of knowledge here, I'd be lost if it wasn't for this forum.

It was SteveFarmer who said that.

[p38brickus]

Come on guys! Would anyone actually lie about buying a Range Rover?
I have a X5 TD which we use to tow our 26 foot caravan. I've been driving a Vito van as my "second car" but feel like a change.
My wife has show horses so I may use it to tow the float.
Now, I can see you guys with a mind picture of some toffy nosed old bugger driving his RR, smoking a cigar and going to horse shows. Tra La La and all that.
The honest truth is I was looking at 60 Series 1980's Sahara TD Landcruisers.......nothing under $10,000 there that is any good, 80 Series are dearer. Then up jumps this 2001 RR HSE for less money.........it's a no brainer.
It was the same when we bought the X5. I couldn't afford a TD 100 Series LC, it was a toss up between an Exceed Paj or the X5 TD. Another no brainer to me.
I won't get it for another week or so but the wallet has absorbed the initial shock of the purchase. I guess that's the first step.
It's stock at the moment, maybe I'll look at some aftermarket wheels to make it look sharper. 60L Engel in the rear (do they fit? They take up heaps of room in the X5) Was I reading that a spare battery fits under the rear shelf with the spare tyre? It will mainly be blacktop while I'm still working for myself and have little spare time.
Unfortunately the wife is a 5 Star camper!
Information and banter are appreciated. Thanks for your "love" guys! :D

[Keithy P38]

Haha good to see you came in with a sense of humour! You'll fit right in!

Sounds like you've grabbed a good one, as you say - no doubt you'll spend time here (not like jail though).

They are a good rig. Especially for towing! Probably won't be as good on the juice as your X5 but the V8 burble and get-up will make up for that!

Second battery can be fitted in the spare wheel well, I've got mine on the opposite side to the CD stacker in an Ark Powerpack (the older model) wired up to my smart charger through an Anderson plug.

You'll fit a 60L engel no worries, I carry my 80L ARB fridge everywhere and the parcel shelf cover thingo still shuts.

Can't wait to see a few happy snaps mate!

Enjoy!
Cheers
Keithy

[TheTree]

It was SteveFarmer who said that.

Benji

I read it somewhere amongst the thousands of pages i have read about our beasties, but i can't remember where :(

The original quote was "My mechanic said to me, service it like a plane"

I think it is a perfect philosophy for the P38 :eek:

Steve

[TheTree]

Hi and welcome brickus

Your nick reminds me of a quote i read about the fuel consumption of the classic .. "why wouldn't it be heavy on fuel? It's shaped like a housebrick and weighs about 2 tons"

I am sure you will enjoy the fun and games on this extremely helpful forum :D

Steve

[p38brickus]

They are a good rig. Especially for towing! Probably won't be as good on the juice as your X5 but the V8 burble and get-up will make up for that!

Enjoy!
Cheers
Keithy

I had an MGB with a 3.5 Rover, 5 speed Rover box, RR clutch and Holden LSD. That engine could really sing, it sounded great at idle or at full noise. 360 degree Offenhouser manifold and 350 Holley carb. No weight either helped it.

[p38brickus]

Hi and welcome brickus

Your nick reminds me of a quote i read about the fuel consumption of the classic .. "why wouldn't it be heavy on fuel? It's shaped like a housebrick and weighs about 2 tons"

I am sure you will enjoy the fun and games on this extremely helpful forum :D

Steve

Enjoying the banter and the welcome spirit, thanks guys. We used to have a Merc Sprinter Van for work, I reckon it had the cd of a block of flats. :D

[redandy3575]

Come on guys! Would anyone actually lie about buying a Range Rover?
I have a X5 TD which we use to tow our 26 foot caravan. I've been driving a Vito van as my "second car" but feel like a change.
My wife has show horses so I may use it to tow the float.
Now, I can see you guys with a mind picture of some toffy nosed old bugger driving his RR, smoking a cigar and going to horse shows. Tra La La and all that.
The honest truth is I was looking at 60 Series 1980's Sahara TD Landcruisers.......nothing under $10,000 there that is any good, 80 Series are dearer. Then up jumps this 2001 RR HSE for less money.........it's a no brainer.
It was the same when we bought the X5. I couldn't afford a TD 100 Series LC, it was a toss up between an Exceed Paj or the X5 TD. Another no brainer to me.
I won't get it for another week or so but the wallet has absorbed the initial shock of the purchase. I guess that's the first step.
It's stock at the moment, maybe I'll look at some aftermarket wheels to make it look sharper. 60L Engel in the rear (do they fit? They take up heaps of room in the X5) Was I reading that a spare battery fits under the rear shelf with the spare tyre? It will mainly be blacktop while I'm still working for myself and have little spare time.
Unfortunately the wife is a 5 Star camper!
Information and banter are appreciated. Thanks for your "love" guys! :D

Hey brickus.

It's the same story here mate. I too looked at 80 series Landcruisers a few years back, but apart from the Toyota reliability they don't offer good bang for your buck, therefor I chose a Rangie with all the bells and whistle as well as off road capability that just about surpasses anything on the market and without the need to modify too much in making it even better on dirt.

I service mine on a regular bases and she held together on some of the toughest trips, including cape York.

[p38brickus]

Hey brickus.

It's the same story here mate. I too looked at 80 series Landcruisers a few years back, but apart from the Toyota reliability they don't offer good bang for your buck, therefor I chose a Rangie with all the bells and whistle as well as off road capability that just about surpasses anything on the market and without the need to modify too much in making it even better on dirt.

I service mine on a regular bases and she held together on some of the toughest trips, including cape York.

Toyota resale is unrealistically high.....good luck to them but it does defy logic.
Maybe I'll get the 5 Star Queen up to the Cape yet.....perchance to dream! :angel:

[Keithy P38]

That MGB is tidy! I bet it went like the clappers too!

The cape is definitely a great place to appreciate the air-sprung ride of the P38 - I can attest to that having only weeks ago returned from there.

Mine is purely a tourer/toy and I'm glad I made the choice all those years ago to buy it.

Even if yours sees more or all on-road, I am sure you will enjoy it.

Cheers
Keithy

[benji]

You were replacing the timing cover gaskethttp://www.aulro.com/afvb/p38a-range-rover/176535-timing-cover-gasket-replacement.html

That sounds really good brickus, we've got a 40l Engel too, and it slides in by the sub with just enough room to put the gas stove between it and the tailgate.

We've got two young kids and manage to get everything in.

[p38brickus]

That sounds really good brickus, we've got a 40l Engel too, and it slides in by the sub with just enough room to put the gas stove between it and the tailgate.

We've got two young kids and manage to get everything in.

I think you'll find a 5 star camper needs (?) more stuff than 2 kids, mate.

[Keithy P38]

That's what a camper trailer or caravsn is for! Or a massive roof basket! Or a chev silverado...

[benji]

In saying we get everything in; it's pretty packed. Though we did 3weeks up to Fraser in the Classic with our oldest when he was 18months with no roof rack, that one had the lpg tank in the boot too. No word of a lie I had orings, electrical tape and stuff like that in the dash under the coin tray. We also took a spare diff on that trip too as the morning we were leaving I did an oil change and the back one looked nasty, so I wipped one off the lse.

The big advantage when traveling with two is you can fold the back seats down. We had a fridge base on the Classic that bolted into where the single rear seat mounted, and it worked a treat. We were going to do that to the hse but the second one came earlier than we thought.

I sort of know what you mean though. My auntee was a 5 star camper and they'd have the 80 series and a 6x4 packed for 3 days camping.

[p38brickus]

In saying we get everything in; it's pretty packed. Though we did 3weeks up to Fraser in the Classic with our oldest when he was 18months with no roof rack, that one had the lpg tank in the boot too. No word of a lie I had orings, electrical tape and stuff like that in the dash under the coin tray. We also took a spare diff on that trip too as the morning we were leaving I did an oil change and the back one looked nasty, so I wipped one off the lse.

The big advantage when traveling with two is you can fold the back seats down. We had a fridge base on the Classic that bolted into where the single rear seat mounted, and it worked a treat. We were going to do that to the hse but the second one came earlier than we thought.

I sort of know what you mean though. My auntee was a 5 star camper and they'd have the 80 series and a 6x4 packed for 3 days camping.

We bought our caravan from Esperance in WA. Packed up the X5 with everything we needed for the van trip home inc crockery, cutlery, bedding, 2 dogs, I mean everything. Did I mention clothes for us etc etc?? It took us 3 days to get over there and 3 weeks to get back. We were severely jammed in on the way over though. I think the RR will have more rear room than the X5, their rear is more raked than the RR. Will be laying the rear seats down semi-permanently too.

[p38brickus]

That's what a camper trailer or caravsn is for! Or a massive roof basket! Or a chev silverado...

Might look into a roof rack.....and roof top tent......and awning.........and.....and......stop dreaming!! :(

[mtb_gary]

I have found that when I fold down the left hand side of the back seat (smallest side) the 37 litre Waeco jams perfectly into the space that is created. Access to the fridge is through the left rear passenger door - no kids to carry around, they are all grown up and have their own cars :D

Gary

[p38brickus]

When I get the car I'll have so much info and things to explore, I'll be kept busy for weeks. Work? That's a 4 letter word ending in "K"........I don't do any of those! :D

[p38brickus]

Still haven't picked up the little piglet yet but I did find out it's got coils. Should I be disappointed?

[Keithy P38]

It's one less thing to worry about, however, you really don't get the P38 experience if it has been castrated! Coils are great - don't get me wrong, but they just don't do it for me!

Cheers
Keithy

[p38brickus]

Castrated? Does that mean it will exhaust with a squeaky burble and have tears in it's headlights? :o

[bruce p38]

It all boils down to whether you can be bothered with the maintenance of the EAS. If you can then its a fantastic device, if not (like me) coils are MUCH more reliable.

Bruce p38

[TheTree]

Hi,

Coils are certainly more reliable and require less maintenance, but IMHO it's just not a P38 any more without the EAS.

The problem is that most people seem to ignore maintenance on the EAS and that leads to problems.

Personally I love the concept of being able to change suspension height, to suit the conditions and I also think a P38 on EAS is a far better towing vehicle due to the self leveling

Steve

[davidsonsm]

Not wishing to diss your new toy, but if it was me if investigate reinstatement of the eas. Is the USP of the vehicle. I echo above comments.

[p38brickus]

Not wishing to diss your new toy, but if it was me if investigate reinstatement of the eas. Is the USP of the vehicle. I echo above comments.

Honest opinion is always appreciated. I can seek counselling if I get offended. :)
Ignorance urges me to ask what is "USP" ?

[Hoges]

USP: unique selling point /useless shot part / usual service point / understated suspension performance :eek::wasntme:

[davidsonsm]

Yeah. Sorry. Arsey expression. Unique selling point. I love the ride height capability of the p38. And occasionally hate it. Mostly love though. Like any good relationship.

[p38brickus]

She's on her way to Adelaide...........:)
Rego etc there and then I'll find out what the mystique is all about.....