Fabricated 4WD Diffs based on the Ford 9"

[CJT]

Could be some good things happening in the shed soon however I need to do some more research and I was hoping to get some opinions / advice.

So a couple of questions;


Advice on a strong setup based on a Ford 9" diff / axle, needs to retain ABS.
What 4WD vehicles came standard with a Ford 9" diff?
Thoughts on the setup so far;

Aftermarket 9" case with thick wall axle tubes cut to suit.
True Hi9 3rd Member with ARB locker and 4.11
35 spline axles
Not sure on best options for steering knuckles etc. (needs to have ABS)
Any comments / advice would be appreciated.

[Vern]

Why a 9"?
Bronco and f truck had 9" diffs, pretty sure front was a low pinion though.
Ashcrofts do the hi9.

Personally the front diff that john (bush65) is probably an easier/better option.

[Vern]

Why not front and rear Dana 60's, nearly all bolt straight in.

[CJT]

The idea of the Ford 9 was to utilise the High Pinion True Hi9 3rd members however I am open to all suggestions at this stage.

I will check out the Dana 60 gear, what vehicles came with Dana 60 as standard?

[Vern]

The reason I said dana60, is you can modify a Salisbury rather easy to take dana60 gear, you can also buy a front Salisbury for a land rover that bolts straight in. Just need to get some 35spline axles (Keith from roving tracks can organise this).
You do end up with a bit of a plow though, but nothing big rubber or portals can't fix:)

[CJT]

Thanks Vern, Yeah, I know about the options with the Sals and Dana 60 gear from other builds / threads I have read on here and Pirate.

I dont think Keith is doing anything anymore, however I could be wrong. There is heaps of Dana 60 aftermarket gear available from the US though.

The benefits I saw with the Ford 9 was the smaller housing and for their strength they are quiet light weight too, especially with aftermarket housings etc.

Big rubber and portals would be awesome but I do not think possible, not at this stage anyway.

[Bigbjorn]

Thanks Vern, Yeah, I know about the options with the Sals and Dana 60 gear from other builds / threads I have read on here and Pirate.

I dont think Keith is doing anything anymore, however I could be wrong. There is heaps of Dana 60 aftermarket gear available from the US though.

The benefits I saw with the Ford 9 was the smaller housing and for their strength they are quiet light weight too, especially with aftermarket housings etc.

Big rubber and portals would be awesome but I do not think possible, not at this stage anyway.

What will it cost to fabricate new housings to use 9" centres? Have a look at The New Halibrand (http://www.Halibrand.com). Not super expensive and they will make them to the width you require. Also google Speedway Motors.

[CJT]

What will it cost to fabricate new housings to use 9" centres? Have a look at The New Halibrand (http://www.Halibrand.com). Not super expensive and they will make them to the width you require. Also google Speedway Motors.

Around $1,000 for the rear and $2,000 for the front housing with knuckles etc.

[uninformed]

my 0.2 cents:

There is just as much support for the for the 9 as there is the D60. Maybe even more when you consider housing choices. ATM there are only a couple of AM housings for D60 and only one that does a full fabricated housing and turns the D60 into a drop out third like the Rover/Ford diff.

Front end: There is no point running super strong diff and axles if you are limited to some **** weak (in comparasin) CV or U joint! You will not get a bigger CV in the coil sprung swivel ball and housing without mods and these are then a one off.....

I much prefer the idea of a drop out 3rd and fabricated housing than the big cast Dana center section etc. And If you are building this bad boy to be tough, you may want to steer clear of a Sals housing any way (pulled axle tubes)

Is Ashcroft running the Tru Hi-9 or their own center section? I know they have their own design and cut R+P???

If you are going a new fabbed housing, no need to source the diff from a wreck or such as you want the centre section to be of nodular iron or better. Some of the OEM truck and car applications dont have nodular iron centre sections and are known to crack/fail.

A common combo is a ford 9 type housing and diff with D60 outers. What ever you do, make sure you go full floating design.....

What HP will you have?
What tyre size will you run?
What type of driving will you do?

Also it seems that alot of "pro" axles coming out of the states are pretty average, that is good material and cheap design. They buy a blank and machine the spline in the end. I have seen them where the main body of the axle is a slightly larger dia that the OD of the spline :eek: It also seems that alot of the "pro" R+P are not actually made in the USA and are weaker than OEM, ie Dana Spicer is better.

[CJT]

my 0.2 cents:

There is just as much support for the for the 9 as there is the D60. Maybe even more when you consider housing choices. ATM there are only a couple of AM housings for D60 and only one that does a full fabricated housing and turns the D60 into a drop out third like the Rover/Ford diff.

Front end: There is no point running super strong diff and axles if you are limited to some **** weak (in comparasin) CV or U joint! You will not get a bigger CV in the coil sprung swivel ball and housing without mods and these are then a one off.....

I much prefer the idea of a drop out 3rd and fabricated housing than the big cast Dana center section etc. And If you are building this bad boy to be tough, you may want to steer clear of a Sals housing any way (pulled axle tubes)

Is Ashcroft running the Tru Hi-9 or their own center section? I know they have their own design and cut R+P???

If you are going a new fabbed housing, no need to source the diff from a wreck or such as you want the centre section to be of nodular iron or better. Some of the OEM truck and car applications dont have nodular iron centre sections and are known to crack/fail.

A common combo is a ford 9 type housing and diff with D60 outers. What ever you do, make sure you go full floating design.....

What HP will you have?
What tyre size will you run?
What type of driving will you do?

Also it seems that alot of "pro" axles coming out of the states are pretty average, that is good material and cheap design. They buy a blank and machine the spline in the end. I have seen them where the main body of the axle is a slightly larger dia that the OD of the spline :eek: It also seems that alot of the "pro" R+P are not actually made in the USA and are weaker than OEM, ie Dana Spicer is better.


Thanks for information.

That is actually the way I am heading, Ford 9 centre and Dana 60 outers with D60 CV's etc.

The only reason for the question regarding standard vehicles that came with the Ford 9 and D60 is for my engineer, tyre size of equivalent factory vehicle +50mm, also to work out the maximum wheel track +50mm from the "donor" vehicle.

I have found that the Ford 9" was in production up to the late 80's in 4wd's, mainly the Ford F100, F150 and Bronco. The Dana 60 is still used now in most of the big American pickups, Chev, Dodge and Ford up to the F450/550.

I believe that Ashcroft developed their own 3rd however they are no longer building them as there was not enough interest.

To answer your questions;

HP = At first not much at all but that is likely to change in the future depending on how big transport will allow the engine capacity.

Tyres = 33's approved for on road use, 4wd parks / comps the biggest that will fit but probably looking at 35's as I do not run extra long bump stops, my 33's only just clear the upper wheel well now after the big guard cut.

Driving = Everything, it is now a weekend toy and will see a bit of everything from touring to comps and everything in between.

[uninformed]

anything can be broken!

but in saying that I would think that a well built ford 9 should handle the work. I would stay away from D60 as they are heavier and lower. I think you will find that the 450 and up have D70 or even D80. Then of coarse there is other brands like corparte 14 bolt and Steriling.....

I thought wheel track was based on the vehicle the axle is to mounted to, not from???? I could well be wrong.

BTW, my opinons are only based on what I have read on Pirate4x4 etc, I have no hands on experience with F9 or D60 etc....

I just rock MD Rover and Sals ;)

[CJT]

anything can be broken!

but in saying that I would think that a well built ford 9 should handle the work. I would stay away from D60 as they are heavier and lower. I think you will find that the 450 and up have D70 or even D80. Then of coarse there is other brands like corparte 14 bolt and Steriling.....

I thought wheel track was based on the vehicle the axle is to mounted to, not from???? I could well be wrong.

BTW, my opinons are only based on what I have read on Pirate4x4 etc, I have no hands on experience with F9 or D60 etc....

I just rock MD Rover and Sals ;)

I agree, I think a F9 centre with D60 knuckles and CV's would be the best option, seems to be the best of both worlds.

The 50mm increase in wheel track in the rules appear to be in relation to the rims used and the fact the increase places additional load on the components.

It seems that if the diff / axle substitution is approved the additional 50mm track increase then applies to the new components.

[uninformed]

if that is true, that is good news :)

[Ancient Mariner]

I tried to post up some pics I have of 9" in the Isuzu section but get the message they are already posted under Diff Ratios:mad:

[rick130]

IIRC the F trucks with the solid front axle used a high pinion D44 front diff.
The big problem is that it goes down the wrong side of the chassis.

[Bush65]

I tried to post up some pics I have of 9" in the Isuzu section but get the message they are already posted under Diff Ratios:mad:
When that happens, you are able to link to the already posted pics using (img)...link...(/img) Note replace the ( and ) parenthesis/brackets with [ ] square brackets

[Bush65]

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It seems that if the diff / axle substitution is approved the additional 50mm track increase then applies to the new components.
That is the way I read the NCOP, but not how I read the QLD regs over riding parts of the NCOP.

I will have to check when I have more time, but from memory it is very clear that the 50mm increase applies to the original track, and it is out of the engineers hands to increase it further.

This is an issue for me. I'm resigned to not getting my bushie registered in QLD because of this - a lot of $$$$ in the portal axles.

When I moved to QLD, I bought with me stronger axles based on 105 series Landcruiser, with air lockers and longfield cv's, etc. These were in the bushie before I changed it to portals. I wanted to put these under my 120, and knew QLD was intending to adopt the NCOP. I didn't anticipate they would over rule that part of the NCOP.

So now I still trying to work out what to do to put stronger axles under my 120. Because of other issues, I need a strong rear end to replace the salisbury, which I can't easily use in my case (I don't particularly like it anyway). I could shorten my 105 axle but then I have to depend upon custom half shafts that can't be replaced with stock shafts that can be found almost anywhere. The other option is to get some custom wheels made with much more offset to reduce the track, but that will make my front freewheel hubs very exposed to rocks, and worsen the loads on the steering (scrub radius) and wheel bearings.

If you are right, it will make a great deal of difference to me, but I fear you are too optimistic. I look forward to being corrected.

[Ancient Mariner]

I am not familiar with 105 axles but most diffs have a long and short axle .You cant rework the housing and use two short axles? You can educate me slightly with turbo info but wasting your time with computor talk :confused: but thanks anyway :o

Noel

[bobslandies]

Hi John,

Further to what Noel suggests if you are using portals could you not have the differential almost centralised. Late 1970s/80 F100 9inch 31spline (and the rarer 9 3/8inch diffs and no doubt others) have the differential quite close to the centre of the vehicle so they use two axles of the same length. This is apparently better to reduce harmonics in the rear tailshaft with the slight offset.

Not sure about the rest of your drivetrain so I suppose the only issue then is a centre drive to rear transfer case rather than an offset one. This could help you reduce the overall width increase with the portal axles. Does that make sense?

Bob

[frantic]

How does a patrol modified rear compare to same cost Salisbury(D60) or Ford 9 in?
So if you spend the same which is better. A bloke I know has designed a fully floating patrol Diff and is in the process of sourcing the right Gear to build them for comps.

[Ancient Mariner]

What the 9' has going for it about 15 different ratios from 2 some thing to 6 something .The f100 housing is strong but reasonably light you can work on the center on the bench not under the bloody car:) Available in cast -aluminium- nodular iron also titanium if you have biganuff pockets. Choice of allsorts of lockers or LSDs yokes in the same variety of material and choice of sizes
Disregard the previous rambling as I have been using 9" since the sixtys with one oil related failure (collapsed breather) pumped all the oil out:mad: a few
broken axles so am pretty biased:cool:

Noel

[uninformed]

How does a patrol modified rear compare to same cost Salisbury(D60) or Ford 9 in?
So if you spend the same which is better. A bloke I know has designed a fully floating patrol Diff and is in the process of sourcing the right Gear to build them for comps.

Im not sure? I have read a few things and seen 1Madengineer (greg) state that a patrol diff has its limits in the bearing sizes and neck down at swivel in the front end. (I think??)

I also Barry at Hi-Tough has made a few 35 spline (same size and type as D60 35 spline) custom axles for Nissans. These may be your mates???

It would be nice to see the local stuff get more support. But as a population and the shear scale of things, we will never compete against the USA for AM support of products. You could literally spend days googling Ford 9 housings, axles, diffs etc form the USA....

[Slunnie]

Isn't the Patrol leaf ute diff (the big one) about 1.5", full floater and comparable in the CW/P size to the D60?

[Slunnie]

This is from Isuzurover
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/986713-post42.html


DANA 60
Ring gear - 9.75"
Pinion Diameter - 1.626"
Pinion Splines - 29
Ring gear bolts - 12x0.5"
Tooth width - 1.437"
Ratios available - 3.54:1 - 7.17:1
Axle splines available:
1.7" 40 spline (not stock - all others from factory)
1.5" 35 spline
1.31" 30spline
1.31" 16 spline
NB - Sals is basically the same spec except for 1.24" 24spl axles.

Diff specs - NISSAN H260
Ring gear - 10.25"
Pinion Diameter -
Pinion Splines -
Ring gear bolts -
Tooth width -
Ratios available - 3.5:1 - 4.88:1 ?
Axle splines available - see below

Diff specs - NISSAN H230
Ring gear - 9.2"
Pinion Diameter -
Pinion Splines -
Ring gear bolts -
Tooth width -
Ratios available - 3.5:1 - 4.88:1 ?
Axle splines available - see below

ALL rear axles SEMI FLOATING ?
GQ Patrol 88-98 cab chassis rear 1.51" 37spline
GQ Patrol 88-98 front 1.26" 31spline
GQ Patrol 88-98 rear 1.31" 33spline
GU Patrol 98 on diesels rear 1.51" 37spline
GU Patrol 98 on front 1.26" 31spline
GU Patrol 98 on rear 1.31" 33spline

I'd expect the Dana and fabricated 9's are better systems though.

[uninformed]

here is some stuff from Outerlimits:

Outer Limits 4x4 Board • View topic - best budget diffs GU vs 80 vs MOG vs D60 (http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=230409&start=60)

[CJT]

Looking at starting to source parts for these hybrid 9's.

Going by previous comments and recommendations it would seem that ideally I am after a full floater setup.

So, TrueHi9 3rds with 4.11, 35 spline and ARB lockers, aftermarket 9" case with large thick wall axle tubes.

What I can not get my head around is how to use D2 5/120PCD hubs, keep the ABS but run it with D60 steering, cv's etc.

Does anyone have any ideas or know of someone to contact regarding building these for me?

ABS is something I know nothing about. :(

[CJT]

That is the way I read the NCOP, but not how I read the QLD regs over riding parts of the NCOP.

I will have to check when I have more time, but from memory it is very clear that the 50mm increase applies to the original track, and it is out of the engineers hands to increase it further.

This is an issue for me. I'm resigned to not getting my bushie registered in QLD because of this - a lot of $$$$ in the portal axles.

When I moved to QLD, I bought with me stronger axles based on 105 series Landcruiser, with air lockers and longfield cv's, etc. These were in the bushie before I changed it to portals. I wanted to put these under my 120, and knew QLD was intending to adopt the NCOP. I didn't anticipate they would over rule that part of the NCOP.

So now I still trying to work out what to do to put stronger axles under my 120. Because of other issues, I need a strong rear end to replace the salisbury, which I can't easily use in my case (I don't particularly like it anyway). I could shorten my 105 axle but then I have to depend upon custom half shafts that can't be replaced with stock shafts that can be found almost anywhere. The other option is to get some custom wheels made with much more offset to reduce the track, but that will make my front freewheel hubs very exposed to rocks, and worsen the loads on the steering (scrub radius) and wheel bearings.

If you are right, it will make a great deal of difference to me, but I fear you are too optimistic. I look forward to being corrected.

John, thought you might be interested in this extract from the QLD gov infrastructure site.

"4.2.11 Off-Road and Goods Vehicle Wheel Track
The wheel track of off-road four wheel drive vehicles and goods vehicles (MC, NA, NB ADR
category) must not be increased by more than 50mm beyond the maximum specified by the
vehicle manufacturer for the particular model.
If a solid axle from another manufacturer is used, the wheel track may be increased by 50mm
beyond the maximum specified by the vehicle manufacturer for that particular axle, provided all
other requirements such as clearances and the tyres do not protruding outside of the vehicle
bodywork."

[Slunnie]

Looking at starting to source parts for these hybrid 9's.

Going by previous comments and recommendations it would seem that ideally I am after a full floater setup.

So, TrueHi9 3rds with 4.11, 35 spline and ARB lockers, aftermarket 9" case with large thick wall axle tubes.

What I can not get my head around is how to use D2 5/120PCD hubs, keep the ABS but run it with D60 steering, cv's etc.

Does anyone have any ideas or know of someone to contact regarding building these for me?

ABS is something I know nothing about. :(

I suspect for the studs you'll be constrained by the D60 side of things.

Up there Buds Customs is who I'd contact.

[uninformed]

Im probably missing something here for sure. Rovertracks use to offer a 35 spline upgrade for the Sals rear. At the hub end they would provide a new stub axle (spindle) that was larger dia. This allowed the bigger axle shaft to pass through. The retained the original hubs by, I believe, having them machined to suit a larger bearing. This larger bearing would fit the new stub axle.

So id say maybe new custom stub axles and have the hub machined to suit the appropriate size bearing. This may be a start :confused:

[CJT]

The issue seems to be trying to get to the D2 stud pattern, 5 lug is not a problem for the earlier LR hubs with D60 parts.

[Bush65]

John, thought you might be interested in this extract from the QLD gov infrastructure site.

"4.2.11 Off-Road and Goods Vehicle Wheel Track
The wheel track of off-road four wheel drive vehicles and goods vehicles (MC, NA, NB ADR
category) must not be increased by more than 50mm beyond the maximum specified by the
vehicle manufacturer for the particular model.
If a solid axle from another manufacturer is used, the wheel track may be increased by 50mm
beyond the maximum specified by the vehicle manufacturer for that particular axle, provided all
other requirements such as clearances and the tyres do not protruding outside of the vehicle
bodywork."
Thank you Sir :)

You have made my day, nay month.

I had previously downloaded their documents when they were released, and again as recently as a few weeks ago.

The part of your quote that I highlighted in red, was not part of those documents.

[Bush65]

John, thought you might be interested in this extract from the QLD gov infrastructure site.

"4.2.11 Off-Road and Goods Vehicle Wheel Track
The wheel track of off-road four wheel drive vehicles and goods vehicles (MC, NA, NB ADR
category) must not be increased by more than 50mm beyond the maximum specified by the
vehicle manufacturer for the particular model.
If a solid axle from another manufacturer is used, the wheel track may be increased by 50mm
beyond the maximum specified by the vehicle manufacturer for that particular axle, provided all
other requirements such as clearances and the tyres do not protruding outside of the vehicle
bodywork."
Unfortunately that extract "4.2.11" is from the National Code of Practice, Section LS.

Although QLD has adopted the NCOP, as far as I can tell they have provisions to be read in conjunction with the NCOP. These have specifically excluded the last part concerning a solid axle from another manufacturer.

So I'm afraid I'm back where I was, and the track can only be increased by 50mm from that specified by the vehicle manufacturer (i.e. Land Rover, not the manufacturer of the axle. :(

[CJT]

John,

I went back and had a look and noticed the same thing.

The clause that I quoted was out of VSB14, whereas the NCOP for QLD appears to have removed that clause.

Having said all of that, the engineer I have been talking to was happy to approve, engineer, mod plate for the axle substitution and +50mm offset and +50mm tyre size over that of the substituted axle.

[CJT]

I suspect for the studs you'll be constrained by the D60 side of things.

Up there Buds Customs is who I'd contact.

After a little bit of research last night it looks like somewhere along the lines Jeep could have possibly run a 5 x 4.5 stud pattern and it would seem that this may be able to work with D60 stuff and 35 spline axles, however not as a full floater.

I will see about contacting Buds in a few weeks time as i would be interested in getting the housings done by them.

I know for the one of the Hilux SAS swaps they did, the axle tubes was something like 12mm thick :o

[CJT]

Dana 44 came in 5 x 4.5

Dana 60 comes as small as 5 x 5.5

[def-90]

So your doing all this just to run a 33????

[LowRanger]

So your doing all this just to run a 33????

That is exactly what I have been thinking......maybe for 38's..........:eek:

[rangieman]

So your doing all this just to run a 33????

Stardard rover diffs are barely capable with stardard 29" tyres :eek: . Nothing wrong with over engineering;) , And yes i do belive in a fuse:cool:

[Ancient Mariner]

With 32" I must of wasted my time and money:o

[CJT]

Yes 33's on road, but 33's legally engineered on a D2 plus a min 100 - 150mm increase in wheel track.

Also, if going full float I can still drive if I break an axle or CV and need to remove it etc instead of the wheel falling off.

The diffs will outlast the disco, endless diff ratio options etc and will get used under something else if the disco dies...

[Slunnie]

With 32" I must of wasted my time and money:o

You just don't drive it hard enough to break things.

[Bush65]

I have no idea how hard he drives, but going by his axle assemblies, they should stand up to some abuse given 32" tyres.

Here are some pics of Ancient Mariner's axle assemblies. Similar fine standard of mods to the LT230 and the rest of his drive train. It is one strong Land Rover that will put most to shame.

Rear axle assy:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=68034&stc=1&d=1383447919

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=68035&stc=1&d=1383447965

Front axle assy:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=68036&stc=1&d=1383448047

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=68037&stc=1&d=1383448125

[clubagreenie]

Land Rovers don't break axles. Drivers do.

[uninformed]

With 32" I must of wasted my time and money:o

Do you have a build thread going, or just individual threads?

[Ancient Mariner]

Thanks for the comments and posting up the pics John .My computer skills are sadly lacking

Noel

[Ancient Mariner]

Do you have a build thread going, or just individual threads?
No build thread just some ramblings and some pics mainly in the Isuzu section


Noel

[modman]

Can we have some specs on your axle assemblies please?
I'm interested in cwp, axle spline, cv type etc.
I have no tech to add just want to sticky beak.:D
Dc

[Ancient Mariner]

Rear housing F100 spindles 4140 axles 31 spline 4340 Heat treated to about 95 ton ts.Center big bearing alloy Yukon with Detroit Locker Ford 3.0 -1 CP and billet tailshaft yoke

Front early F100 housing. Axles 31x23 spline 4340 same ht .Ashcroft CV joints .Center the same except
Trutrac and Strange CP I have never used CV joints before so will be a learning experience for me:o
but as somebody mentioned I don`t drive hard enough to break things:eek:

[Slunnie]

Rear housing F100 spindles 4140 axles 31 spline 4340 Heat treated to about 95 ton ts.Center big bearing alloy Yukon with Detroit Locker Ford 3.0 -1 CP and billet tailshaft yoke

Front early F100 housing. Axles 31x23 spline 4340 same ht .Ashcroft CV joints .Center the same except
Trutrac and Strange CP I have never used CV joints before so will be a learning experience for me:o
but as somebody mentioned I don`t drive hard enough to break things:eek:

Nice axles! :cool: I think you'd hard pressed to break those.

[uninformed]

Rear housing F100 spindles 4140 axles 31 spline 4340 Heat treated to about 95 ton ts.Center big bearing alloy Yukon with Detroit Locker Ford 3.0 -1 CP and billet tailshaft yoke

Front early F100 housing. Axles 31x23 spline 4340 same ht .Ashcroft CV joints .Center the same except
Trutrac and Strange CP I have never used CV joints before so will be a learning experience for me:o
but as somebody mentioned I don`t drive hard enough to break things:eek:

Why low pinion in the front?

[Ancient Mariner]

Why low pinion in the front?
Why not ?

[uninformed]

Why not ?

prop shaft angle, and the gears are driving on the coast side of the tooth. While this is also the case for the stock rover type diff, I believe it worse on the ford 9 due to tooth shape/design.

[uninformed]

anyone??? or have I got my info wrong again?

[Vern]

Aren't f truck 4x4's all low pinion?

[Ancient Mariner]

Aren't f truck 4x4's all low pinion?
No no

AM

[Grimace]

Reviving this thread as I finally have a need to upgrade my built rover front diff.
I need strength, more steering and a slightly wider track.

But I also need clearance. As the only thing that stops Fluffy is when it comes into hard contact with the ground.

How do I acheive this!?

[rangieman]

Reviving this thread as I finally have a need to upgrade my built rover front diff.
I need strength, more steering and a slightly wider track.

But I also need clearance. As the only thing that stops Fluffy is when it comes into hard contact with the ground.

How do I acheive this!?

One Word:p
Portals;)

[Grimace]

I'd love portals. But the car would need some mods the get the overall height down.
I'm also not 100% sure the front superflex arms will be adequate for all aspect of onroad driving with portals.

[Mick_Marsh]

Bigger wheels.
Lower gearing.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/04/701.jpg


Start with 6x6 Perentie axles.

[Grimace]

Bigger wheels.
Lower gearing.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/04/701.jpg


Start with 6x6 Perentie axles.

Cheers Mick. The forest rover is cool but not at all practical :)

I want to advance in axle tech not interested in a sals diff at all.
Tyres are 37s and eventually 40s (offroad only)
Gearing is 4.11 atm but want to go back to 3.5 or there abouts.

[Grimace]

Looking at possibly nissan third with dana 60 outers.
3.7 gears and custom rcv or longfield cv axles. Just not sure on the steering side of things and whether the hybrid diff housing could be made with enough clearance using a h233 or h260 third.... this is way harder then I expected lol!

[Slunnie]

There was somebody doing LC80/100 front axles with Patrol front centre?

Short of that or LC/Lux centres into your housings I'm guessing you'll be putting a lot of coin down.

[Grimace]

There was somebody doing LC80/100 front axles with Patrol front centre?

Short of that or LC/Lux centres into your housings I'm guessing you'll be putting a lot of coin down.

I am of the opinion that the toy conversion is not going to gain me anything over the current arrangement.

I want to step it up a notch and yes I feel the coin side of this is going to hurt!

[Slunnie]

I am of the opinion that the toy conversion is not going to gain me anything over the current arrangement.

I want to step it up a notch and yes I feel the coin side of this is going to hurt!
You talking 9's in fabricated housings?

[Grimace]

You talking 9's in fabricated housings?

9 or Nissan not entirely sure what to do! I feel the H260 nissan third will be too large so may have to work with a hi9

[blackrangie]

9 or Nissan not entirely sure what to do! I feel the H260 nissan third will be too large so may have to work with a hi9
Uny luck with this?

[Grimace]

Uny luck with this?

Nope, everything was practically double my anticipated budget.

Which is mainly my fault for being such a poor tight....

[blackrangie]

Nope, everything was practically double my anticipated budget.

Which is mainly my fault for being such a poor tight....
Yeah tuff gear is not cheap..but then again breaking good gear is expensive

[Nuttbag007]

I'm running lux rear center (beefed up and locker), custom axle and flange. Front is a beefed up 100 serrries beefed up, custom axles with long field cv and locker with 35" Simeon. 350 vortex chev 245kw and 550nm. I drive it pretty hard and it's bullet proof. My setup would run 40's all day long. Rover housings retain ground clearance its win win. In saying that a full Ashcroft setup is still pretty strong

[Mercguy]

I'm running lux rear center (beefed up and locker), custom axle and flange. Front is a beefed up 100 serrries beefed up, custom axles with long field cv and locker with 35" Simeon. 350 vortex chev 245kw and 550nm. I drive it pretty hard and it's bullet proof. My setup would run 40's all day long. Rover housings retain ground clearance its win win. In saying that a full Ashcroft setup is still pretty strong

Have you got pics of this or some more details?
Who did your axles & hubs?