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Will Wallace
20th September 2013, 10:20 PM
I have tried on my limited mobile internet to research td5 remaps.
I have even tried to PM and E mail Tombie to no avail.

2000 D2 Td5 Manual.

Who is happy with theirs?

Why did you choose theirs?

How much?

Who is unhappy with theirs?

Why?

And I don't want a ****ing contest.

Regards
Will

Nova
20th September 2013, 11:26 PM
Basically 2 choices, swap to a later model flashable ecu and buy a "remap" or purchase a chipped ecu from someone like TRS in Adelaide (also a crowd in sydney sell one). Chipped one is cheaper than replacement ecu and tune, replacement allows for re-mapping in the future if you change something on the car.

I have a TRS ecu and find it good but haven't driven anything else so can't compare.

Cheers,
Nova

Disco Muppet
20th September 2013, 11:29 PM
I don't think Tombie does re-maps anymore, could be wrong, He can also be difficult to get a hold of due to his work schedule.
There's lots of options, I'll be going to Jose and the gang at Td5Inside when I take the plunge, going to an NNN ECU.
Do a bit of a search on here and you should find loooooooooots of threads about them :D

OffTrack
21st September 2013, 07:37 AM
Tombie is no longer selling remaps afaik. He was an agent for Bell Auto Services (BAS).

Why did you choose theirs?
The thing that swung me was Td5Inside's good feedback from other members, José's willingness to make changes to the tune to suit your requirements, and then tweak the tune based on your feedback. He also will adjust the tune if you make mods to the engine down the track - adding a VNT, or intercooler etc - and doesn't charge for this service.

How much?
$340 for the Tune plus around $350 for a second hand NNN ECU. Last time I checked BD and TRS were charging around $600 for a chipped ECU, so cost difference is minimal, and the flexibility of the NNN route is far greater.

Who is unhappy with theirs?
Happy with the Td5Inside Remap, but I previously had a Bruce Davis rechipped ECU which was already in the vehicle.

Why?
The BD tune was too raucous for my tastes, it tend to kick in suddenly, and made the engine feel a bit harsh. The Td5Inside tune seems better integrated, with a smoother transition into the power band, and far more pleasant to drive overall. That is my opinion, based on my experience.

cheers
Paul

justfishing
21st September 2013, 04:10 PM
Hello,
I would recommend TD5Inside as his work is very good, goes to lot of trouble to get your car how you want it to drive.
I chose TD5Inside due the good feedback he that he has.
I have had a couple of different re-maps from other vendors and didn't get the same service.
Ian

robbotd5
21st September 2013, 06:02 PM
Hey all.
I've heard that Jose does a "towing" map. I am very interested in this. I currently have a BD remap which is good but I would like a map customized for towing a 2300kg van. Plus I'd like to upgrade to a VNT down the track. Am I expecting too much? Thoughts? I have a Nano Evo.
Regards
Robbo

joe.woods
21st September 2013, 06:06 PM
Another for José at TD5Inside my old girl is a dream since the remap...Joe

gavinwibrow
21st September 2013, 06:42 PM
Robbo, I too have Jose's TD5Inside remap in my 04 and which is inclined towards towing, plus retaining economy, and I'm extremely happy with the service, and when I pull my finger out will get the map rechecked by him (free service) for my unfortunately required replacement engine.

Will Wallace
22nd September 2013, 10:22 AM
Td5 inside it seems to be then. Thanks for all the great feedback. :)

akula
22nd September 2013, 03:30 PM
Where's the best place to get NNN type ECU's?

iPom
23rd September 2013, 09:05 AM
I paid $290 for an NNN off EBay. Make sure you get the correct one for your vehicle/transmission.
I can't remember the exact part numbers. No doubt Off Track will more than likely know or do a search. It will have been covered before.

djam1
23rd September 2013, 09:23 AM
Over time I have had remaps done by pretty well all of the main players in the industry in the UK.
They can all be difficult to contact and non responsive to emails pretty well without exception.

Jose I found to be very good and particularly skilled in his field.
I found that I needed to be quite specific in my description of issues remembering that English is not Jose's native language.

I wouldn't hesitate to get Jose to do a map for me he is thorough, persistent and polite.
He also does very good tailor made maps

discolaw
23rd September 2013, 10:58 AM
I'm also looking at a td5Inside remap for towing. Have emailed them once and got a quick & helpful reply. What are roughly the follow on costs. I'm assuming its necessary to modify the manifold and put in M10 studs to cope with the higher egts. Pulling off the manifold and grinding out the webbing & bigger studs are a bit beyond my home garage level skills.
Cheers

gavinwibrow
23rd September 2013, 01:53 PM
Spend your money first up on an egt gauge, then drive on that. If you keep your temps down, you won't need any mods.
Alternatives to the bigger studs if you go any further is to enlarge (slightly) the outer stud holes on the manifold (I didn't bother, but did fit all new standard studs). Dewebbing is easy with a 4" angle grinder. Don't know if it helps, but some have ceramic painted the manifold after mods.

OffTrack
23rd September 2013, 01:57 PM
Not sure the M10 studs are 100% necessary. I had the manifold refaced when it warped and have since fitted JE Engineering studs which are pretty popular on the UK forums as a solution to warping. They apparently allow the stud to stretch a little without snapping.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/1779483-post15.html

The studs are standard size so you don't need to tap the head.

Re: ECU's - NNN000130 and NNN500030 for an Auto, NNN000120 and NNN500020 for a Manual. NNN000250 will also work for a manual.

cheers
Paul

Disco Muppet
23rd September 2013, 03:28 PM
That's one thing that was holding me back from getting a Remap, but I've started talking to Jose about remaps and it won't be long before I accept defeat and get one.
I had thought that upping the intercooler, etc was necessary but I think as I'm going for a fairly conservative remap I'll just go for an EGT/Boost gauge and keep my eye on it.
I'd hate to see my EGTs while overtaking atm :eek:

OffTrack
23rd September 2013, 03:36 PM
That's one thing that was holding me back from getting a Remap, but I've started talking to Jose about remaps and it won't be long before I accept defeat and get one.
I had thought that upping the intercooler, etc was necessary but I think as I'm going for a fairly conservative remap I'll just go for an EGT/Boost gauge and keep my eye on it.
I'd hate to see my EGTs while overtaking atm :eek:

They should be fine. The stock maps are written to target a safe afr, so won't run excessive egt's with normal driving. You might have trouble if you are towing a heavy caravan uphill while overtaking...

Winding the boost up seems to help bring down EGT's, mind you my EGT probe is sitting in a box under the desk as I type ;)

Disco Muppet
23rd September 2013, 04:28 PM
I hardly ever tow, it's more running it in third locked perhaps a tad aggressively while overtaking up a steel hill :angel:
But yes.
Gauges will be complementing my remap :burnrubber:

mike_beecham
23rd September 2013, 04:48 PM
Hi All
I have a Defender with a TD5 Inside Re-Map. Drives like a different car. Heaps more power right across the rev range. I have mine for towing a camper. It isnt quite right - but Jose is waiting for me to send through some data off the Nanocom....so not his fault at all!!

Do it. You'll never go back.

(PS - l too weas concerned about damaging things - but Jose assures me things are still 'well within' safe limits).

Mike

northiam
23rd September 2013, 05:08 PM
I bought a secondhand chipped TRS msb type ECU. Re-coded the injectors and could not be happier.
More power allround and better fuel mileage
:)

sharmy
3rd March 2014, 03:23 PM
Hi All,
I have 2003 disco td5 auto and would love a remap. I know this is a longshot but does anyone know if the td5 alive remap can be installed via a hawkeye diagnostic tool

joe.woods
3rd March 2014, 04:57 PM
Hi All,
I have 2003 disco td5 auto and would love a remap. I know this is a longshot but does anyone know if the td5 alive remap can be installed via a hawkeye diagnostic tool

No it can't the hawkeye only reads and resets errors

sharmy
3rd March 2014, 06:48 PM
Thanks Joe, I will see if I can find someone near Bundaberg with a nanocom who will let me borrow it.

sharmy
4th March 2014, 10:03 AM
I meant the td5 inside map. Is there anyone between Brisbane and Rockhampton that installs these remaps. Has anyone had a remap done by british offroad on the Sunshine Coast. Any assistance would be appreciated

1999td5
5th March 2014, 11:03 PM
Would I be able to tell the difference between the different remaps??? Not sure. Everything that I read says that I will notice the difference between standard and remap in general. I am about to go down the TD5 Inside line. I am looking for smooth power, not harsh and MORE POWER. I have tried to read as much as I can with regards to different upgrades. (lots on the forums) I have an msb in the disco at the moment. Jose has been very helpful and replied to all my questions. I am going to a NNN (careful buy the right one, Manual/auto) with TD5 Inside map. The thought here is to allow for future changes that I may do to my TD5. At present I have a standard inter cooler and standard exhaust manifold. Not sure if I should remove the webbing at this point in time or not (I feel that maybe I should). I have just made sure that the nuts are secure. I am currently waiting for temp sensor and gauge to arrive (Strangy has done a fairly good review/install). TD5 Inside remap $340, NNN ecu $$$(you might be lucky and get a cheap one on eBay) or somewhere else few and far between.

Graeme

gavinwibrow
6th March 2014, 02:50 PM
Hi Greame - I'd be inclined to do the deweb sooner rather than later. Some even ceramic coat the exhaust after. Cheers

OffTrack
6th March 2014, 06:09 PM
You be better off upgrading the studs. I've had a skimmed manifold with JE Engineering studs and spacers installed since last March. I'm running a Td5 inside remap and have had no signs of problems.

The JE engineering studs are longer than stock and have spacer tubes but are standard diameter and thread so don't require drilling and tapping.

http://www.jeengineering.co.uk/landrovers/discovery/accessories-copy-copy

Tombie
6th March 2014, 10:19 PM
Mercedes studs....

1999td5
8th March 2014, 01:00 AM
haha

I had a Subaru forester that I did NOT have to touch.
I had a Ford Explorer that I did not Want to touch

I now have a Disco that I have done nothing but touch.

Merc Studs were do I find them? Are they longer harder whats the go? still 8mm?

Graeme

Tombie
8th March 2014, 01:01 AM
Yep direct fit - from MB

Tombie
8th March 2014, 01:42 AM
http://www.autopartsway.com/partList.cfm?Mercedes-Benz/allY/allmd/allSmd/allEn/allB/Exhaust/Exhaust_Manifolds/Exhaust_Manifold_Stud_and_Nut/pagenum2/tabS

Tombie
8th March 2014, 01:43 AM
They are stronger and won't snap.
MB also do a copper nut...

Tombie
8th March 2014, 01:49 AM
Volvo use same number oes1906063

1999td5
8th March 2014, 02:24 PM
ok. cool thanks. Do you recommend removing webbing on exhaust manifold. Seems like it is just something that I will end up doing sooner or later.

Graeme