Stopping a barking dog at 100 paces

[Mick_Marsh]

Went to the local cop shop to see if I could get a gun.
Mr Plod: What do you want the gun for?
Me : To shoot the neighbours dog.
Mr Plod: We'll be keeping an eye on you Mr Marsh.

So, how to stop the neighbours dog barking from two doors up? The thought was to make an anti barking dog collar on steroids. Big speaker. Big amp. When the dog barks blast it from afar with 34kHz.

Any suggestions on how to create such a device?

[snowbound]

Went to the local cop shop to see if I could get a gun.
Mr Plod: What do you want the gun for?
Me : To shoot the neighbours dog.
Mr Plod: We'll be keeping an eye on you Mr Marsh.

So, how to stop the neighbours dog barking from two doors up? The thought was to make an anti barking dog collar on steroids. Big speaker. Big amp. When the dog barks blast it from afar with 34kHz.

Any suggestions on how to create such a device?

I feel your pain mate! I assume that you have tried the obvious... i.e talking to the owner?

[Disco Muppet]

Hey Mick, want to borrow my sig line from Judo? :twisted:

[Mick_Marsh]

The dog doesn't bark when the owner is home so he has no idea what I'm on about.

[alien]

Sneak up at night and open the side gate.
Wait for noisy dog to leave.
Ring the ranger anonymously and claim dog is at the shops barking at children and parents are concerned.

You'll get 1 night of peace while it's at the pound;)


Plan B,
Drop one of those anti barking collars in the letter box.
A simple note(cut from newspaper print?) saying it's free for their use as a gift from the neighbours.

[Chops]

Ring your local council Mick. If you document the events, they will deal with it.

We had neighbours of ours do that with our dog,,,:eek:

We had to prove it wasn't ours, that it was a dog further down the road. We then had to do the documenting, but it worked.

[Homestar]

Our Council,won't look at a barking dog complaint unless they get 3 neighbours to document the barking for a minimum of 4 weeks.... ****ing useless they are. I got my own back at next door as our new pugs bark at him when he is hanging the washing out.

He told me a few weeks ago about it. My response was 'paybacks a bitch ain't it...'

Pity really, he is the only neighbour in the street I don't get along with, and I'm not the only one. Everyone else on our end of the street all get along fine and regularly drink and have BBQ's together. he's been invited but never comes.

Anyway, back on topic - do you get on with the neighbour next to the barking dog? There are bark free devices on fleabay that can be punted on the fence pointing towards the offending animal. You could get them to hang one on their fence for you?

[bee utey]

http://secure.oatleyelectronics.com//product_info.php?products_id=272&osCsid=9lvc0h84ec6nqv1fcich4cnj70

Dunno how effective it is.

Silicon Chip Online - Barking Dog Blaster: Shut That Annoying Mutt Up! (http://archive.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_112942/article.html)

[Gillie]

I built a Woofer stopper MkII from Jaycar or Dicks smiths once. It was quiet involved and I needed to wind my own transformers for it. I had the button to activate it next to the bed and the speaker mounted on the hot water service pointing next door. Did it work? Hard to say, the idea that if the dog barked and I could annoy it by using this was somewhat comforting. A phone call to the neighbour at 2am to tell them to shut the dog up was probably the thing that worked the most. Good luck!

[Craigb]

For about $10 off ebay i bought this yellow torch looking device that emits a hi frequency signal - supposed to stop and attacking dog. For the money i gave it a go - used it on our dog for barking or other antisocial behaviour, worked really well for about 10 times I reckon - he would get down on the ground and cringe and stuff but you could see it lose effectiveness as he must have got used to it. Worked about twice the following day. So more of a warning not to buy one! I have had a series of German shepherds over the years, always easy to train, seem to be switched on to humans and want to please - wife thought our current 9yo one was lonely so once i finallly gave up resisting, she got a rescue dog that was supposed to be shepherd mastiff cross. After 6 months of torture for me and the old shepherd, and now at 1yo this would have to be one of the most stupid dogs i have ever met. Will stand there barking with a cloud of citronella constantly eminating from around its head. It doesn't like it, its just it doesn't seem to be able to work out it goes off every time it barks! Luckily we live on a large rural block and it is only driving me nuts.

[Bigbjorn]

A good while ago when we still had a milkman, a house in the next street down the hill had a big useless mongrel dog that barked its head off when anyone walked past. This is really appreciated about 2.00am when the milko was delivering and the damn thing started barking when he got near and kept it up until he was clear.

One morning, woken up as usual I muttered to the cook "Here comes the milko". Next there was the heavy flat bang of a big, probably ex-military rifle, and no more barking.
"Hey", says I to the cook, "that was a heavy weapon. Do you suppose someone got totally fed up and shot that bloody dog?"

Few days later the wallopers come around door knocking the neighbourhood and asking if anybody knew anything. My response was "no, but if you find out let me know and I will send them a six pack". Coppers said that was almost 100% of the responses they got.

[cooperrat]

we had one living a few doors from us,always yapping at every leaf that fell from a tree..We put an anonymous note in the letterbox saying that although we liked dogs some of the neighbours found it distressing that there dog barked at all hours day and night and that it was so upset it had to bark. we printed off a couple of anti barking type things from the internet and put them in the envelope. Next time i saw the dog it had one of those anti-bark collars on.Havn't heard it since.. Mind you I did suggest putting a bullet in the package as well ...good luck

[dullbird]

Mick can I suggest that being as though the dog does it when the owner is not home is likely because the dog has possible seperation anxiety....


I would if you could take some video of it doing it throughout the day and present it back to the owner....the owner really needs to address the issue with a behaviourist if that is the problem. There will be things the owner can do and put in place to try and minimise the problem.

It might simply be that the owner doesnt believe you about how bad it is as fluffy never barks when they are home..if they are a responible owner they will see the evidence you present them with and attempt to make some changes.

If they dont then you have tried and you should continue on taking the video and then give it to the council.

Keep at the council until they do something..I dont know what the laws are like in your state but in NSW its only the council (apart from police etc) that have the legislation to do anything about barking so dont let them fob you off. 9/10 its the council just being bloody lazy

[Mick_Marsh]

I've been down the council route with a problem cat.

I had to inform the neighbour I was going to trap their cat. I then had to pay a trapper to trap the cat as my trap was not suitable. I then had to take the cat to the council. The council then contacted the neighbour and the neighbour had to pay $400 (I think that was how much they said) for the return of the cat.
The process would then start over again.

1. I paid money.
2. The neighbour paid money.
3. The council collected money.
4. The neighbour got really ****ed off with me.

Some months later, there were posters on the power poles offering a reward for information as to the whereabouts of Tiddles.
I never applied for the reward.

[dullbird]

but the dog is not on your land so a very different scenario so there for can not say you have done the council route because council dealing with cats roaming is very different to a dog barking

[87County]

I've been down the council route with a problem cat.

I had to inform the neighbour I was going to trap their cat. I then had to pay a trapper to trap the cat as my trap was not suitable. I then had to take the cat to the council. The council then contacted the neighbour and the neighbour had to pay $400 (I think that was how much they said) for the return of the cat.
The process would then start over again.

1. I paid money.
2. The neighbour paid money.
3. The council collected money.
4. The neighbour got really ****ed off with me.

Some months later, there were posters on the power poles offering a reward for information as to the whereabouts of Tiddles.
I never applied for the reward.


Your post about the "lost" cat sign reminded me of this "found" cat sign

Unusual lost cat found by Japanese students | (We) can do better (http://candobetter.net/node/1347)

[R Miller]

ever since we had kids our dogs have started being vocal, not much, but its enough to **** me off,

we now have one of these hanging out the back

Petsafe Outdoor Ultrasonic Bark Control DOG NO Anti Stop Barking MAD Device Unit | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PetSafe-Outdoor-Ultrasonic-Bark-Control-Dog-No-Anti-Stop-Barking-mad-Device-Unit-/121171073920?pt=AU_Pet_Supplies&hash=item1c365bdb80)

and when we go out, they get one of these each

Petsafe Bark Control Collar | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Petsafe-Bark-Control-Collar-/321219855100?pt=AU_Pet_Supplies&hash=item4aca3202fc)


I didn't want to upset our neighbours, so I took the first step,

now the only reason for them barking is valid one!

[dullbird]

I just want to make an announcement to anyone in NSW that might be reading this

that Anti barking (Static/electric) shock collars are NOT LEGAL in NSW to own or use.......

and I would encourage anyone that is planning on buying one to check their state laws before doing so.

Its an easy trap to fall in to thinking its OK because your buying from an Australian website.

[drivesafe]

Hi Mick and if all else fails, you could get some valium and rissoles and keep the dog doped up while the owners out.

[sdt463]

Hi Mick and if all else fails, you could get some valium and rissoles and keep the dog doped up while the owners out.


And every time the dog wants a rissole it will start to bark

[87County]

And every time the dog wants a rissole it will start to bark

Don't give it too many of those rissoles at once or it won't ever bark again ;)

[VladTepes]

The dog doesn't bark when the owner is home so he has no idea what I'm on about.


The secret here is not to focus on stopping the dog from barking during the day, but rather to encourage it to bark at night / when owner is home ! :twisted:

He'll soon get the picture. :angel:

Soo.. maybe one of those 'inaudible to humans' dog whistles ?

[Phil HH]

First, let me say that I am a dog person. I like them and they (usually) like me.
The girl across the road had a barking dog (hardly ever barks now). She had a Bark Busters person fit it with an ultrasonic collar that gave a zinnng sound every time that it barked. This was supposed to instill in the dog an aversion to barking. For quite a while all we heard was "bark (zinng),bark (zinng),bark (zinng),bark (zinng), etc. After a couple of weeks the Bark Busters person came and took the collar away.
A complaint can be made with your local council under the Companion Animals Act. I did this once, and was directed to keep a log of times that the dogs barked. I did this and then the council ranger accused me of having something against the people. I said that I did, but only because of the dogs. Still nothing happened. Eventually they stopped barking and howling, but they would have been old by then and probably didn't have the energy.

[sschmez]

1.) lose the attitude
2.) talk to neighbour

probably be sorted after that

having been on the receiving end of neighbours not liking my dogs being dogs I'll assure you anonomous letters will have no effect. threatening me or my family or my animals even less effect. Call the council if you wish, do the logs ... then I'll do logs .... then "notice to abate a nuisance" ... then complain again, with your neighbours.

Then I'll submit the video I've been taking all along of neighbours stirring up the dogs, police will come round to your place, some mentions of cruelty to animals, charges etc.

Life goes on for me.
Neighbours are still "R" soles.
Dogs are still dogs.
further complaints to council go in bin.

My dogs were only barking when there was something to bark at. Like the council car parked opposite - clearly visible in the video - could've parked around the corner.

I wish I could post some video of my neighbour and his Ebay special anti dog barking gadget which the coppers loved and nearly landed him a cruelty charge.

Go talk to your neighbours.

[Mick_Marsh]

1.) lose the attitude
2.) talk to neighbour

probably be sorted after that

having been on the receiving end of neighbours not liking my dogs being dogs I'll assure you anonomous letters will have no effect. threatening me or my family or my animals even less effect. Call the council if you wish, do the logs ... then I'll do logs .... then "notice to abate a nuisance" ... then complain again, with your neighbours.

Then I'll submit the video I've been taking all along of neighbours stirring up the dogs, police will come round to your place, some mentions of cruelty to animals, charges etc.

Life goes on for me.
Neighbours are still "R" soles.
Dogs are still dogs.
further complaints to council go in bin.

My dogs were only barking when there was something to bark at. Like the council car parked opposite - clearly visible in the video - could've parked around the corner.

I wish I could post some video of my neighbour and his Ebay special anti dog barking gadget which the coppers loved and nearly landed him a cruelty charge.

Go talk to your neighbours.

1) Didn't think I had an attitude.

2) http://www.aulro.com/afvb/communications-car-audio-electronics/182822-stopping-barking-dog-100-paces-3.html#post1997276

The dog doesn't bark when the owner is home so he has no idea what I'm on about.

Patch the rottweiler only arcs up when the owner is off at work.

So far the only helpful post has been this one.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/communications-car-audio-electronics/182822-stopping-barking-dog-100-paces-2.html#post1997335
Can we continue along this theme? There was a reason why I posted this in the "Electronics" section.

[sschmez]

1) Didn't think I had an attitude.

That's what I thought

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So far the only helpful post has been this one.
[URL]http://www.aulro.com/afvb/communications-car-audio-electronics/182822-stopping-barking-dog-100-paces-2.html#post1997335 (http://)
Can we continue along this theme?.

See Above


There was a reason why I posted this in the "Electronics" section.

You have no right to effect a dogs behaviour by electronic or other means without the owners consent. :nazilock:
See above.

Talk to your neighbour

[Mick_Marsh]

You have no right to effect a dogs behaviour by electronic or other means without the owners consent. :nazilock:
What is the particular section of law that covers this?

Talk to your neighbour
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/communications-car-audio-electronics/182822-stopping-barking-dog-100-paces-3.html#post1997276

The dog doesn't bark when the owner is home so he has no idea what I'm on about.

[Bigbjorn]

Get an audio recorder with a sound triggered microphone. Accumulate a few days of the barking dog and wait for the owners to go to bed. Play it through a good set of speakers aimed right at their bedroom window. When they complain you can tell them that is what we have to put up with, so you can cop some too, or get rid of the bloody dog.

[mick88]

It's not the poor dogs fault!
Sometimes all it takes is an old pair of the dog owners boots left with the dog during the day so that it won't feel deserted!
There is also the citronella bark collars instead of the ones that zap the dog.


Cheers, Mick.

[d@rk51d3]

Had a yapper next door that would sit outside our bedroom window and bark/howl all night. from dusk 'till dawn. :mad:

Got up at 4am one morning with a gutfull, and tipped a bucket of cold water over the fence, all over the unsuspecting dog who promptly flew through the yard, and back inside.

Never heard it again.

[sschmez]

What is the particular section of law that covers this?

It's more about Character than Law
... as is talking to your neighbour

[CapableCate]

Ring your local council Mick. If you document the events, they will deal with it.

We had neighbours of ours do that with our dog,,,:eek:

We had to prove it wasn't ours, that it was a dog further down the road. We then had to do the documenting, but it worked.

That's the go Mick, but understand the process varies from Council to Council. In a past working life I used to deal with these often in my capacity as Supervisor in Animal Control at a Council in Tasmania.
It is common the dog owner is totally unaware the dog even barks in their absence, as don't when they're home. It is usually down to either separation anxiety from pack leader creating insecurity and/or boredom, or visual stimulation as they have access to seeing movement from neighbouring property or street, so feel the need to do what comes naturally ie protect his patch.
The citronella barking collars are quite affective in retraining not to bark, but it's also vitally important that the cause is correctly identified, as eventually, if not, regardless of collar, the dog will start barking again.
If the Council does their job properly, you will find they will usually interview other neighbouring property owners, and sure as **** there will be others being driven crazy by the barking too. All good! Best of luck :)

[Bigbjorn]

1.) lose the attitude
2.) talk to neighbour

probably be sorted after that

having been on the receiving end of neighbours not liking my dogs being dogs I'll assure you anonomous letters will have no effect. threatening me or my family or my animals even less effect. Call the council if you wish, do the logs ... then I'll do logs .... then "notice to abate a nuisance" ... then complain again, with your neighbours.

Then I'll submit the video I've been taking all along of neighbours stirring up the dogs, police will come round to your place, some mentions of cruelty to animals, charges etc.

Life goes on for me.
Neighbours are still "R" soles.
Dogs are still dogs.
further complaints to council go in bin.

My dogs were only barking when there was something to bark at. Like the council car parked opposite - clearly visible in the video - could've parked around the corner.

I wish I could post some video of my neighbour and his Ebay special anti dog barking gadget which the coppers loved and nearly landed him a cruelty charge.

Go talk to your neighbours.

Sounds like your barking dogs have a balance problem. This can be cured 100% by inserting a balance weight behind an ear. .22 calibre is sufficient. Bigger ones can be messy.

[scarry]

What i did was went to see the neighbours.They had only recently moved in.Had two little Jack Russel looking things.
The dogs used to bark as soon as they drove out their driveway.They barked continually at absolutely nothing.
The dogs were quiet for a couple of weeks then it started again.
I then went to see them again,same thing happened,barking started after a couple of weeks.
Then i put a letter in their letterbox saying if it continues,notifying the council will be next,as we had run out of options.
Four weeks later we notified the council,dogs barking again.
A day after notifying the council,one of their dogs got into our yard(our bitch was on heat,but they did't know),and our sharpie(male,desexed)ripped it to shreds.The dog limped home,howling, and i never saw it again:)

The council did whatever they did,and gave us some paperwork to write the time and date,whenever the dogs barked.

Never herd a whisper from the dogs,or dog ever again:)
And have never spoken to them(neighbours) again either...

One of my brothers had a dog that continually barked and annoyed the neighbours.
He came home one day and it was hanging from the fence.

[sschmez]

Sounds like your barking dogs have a balance problem. This can be cured 100% by inserting a balance weight behind an ear. .22 calibre is sufficient. Bigger ones can be messy.

Nah, you missed the point in what you quoted above.

The dogs are fine and it was the neighbours that were unbalanced - even the police and council agreed.

Some of the heroic suggestions in this thread also indicate balance problems in the contributors - bit disappointing really from this place ... just hoping it's lots of hot air and anonymous bravado.

anyway, it's all good now, still have the dogs and now have new neighbours ... funnily enough no further problems.

Stevo

[Hymie]

Hi Mick and if all else fails, you could get some valium and rissoles and keep the dog doped up while the owners out.

Nar mate, Ford Pills and Rissoles, It'll be too scared to bark!

[FFR]

Hi Mick, sorry to hear that you are having these problems. I have a neighbour with some pesky birds in huge cages, making horrendous noises all day (as you see, I don't like birds being birds). It is a rented place, so I will be leaving it soon. The other neighbours are retired persons, I am the only one who uses his backyard.

My boss did the same a year ago, his neighbour had lots of frogs (he didn't like frogs being frogs) so he ended leaving the place.

If you look at whirpool forums, you will see what is the standard approach by the council in these cases. They take you details so, in case that something happens to the dog, they have your name.

[Mick_Marsh]

Hi Mick, sorry to hear that you are having these problems. I have a neighbour with some pesky birds in huge cages, making horrendous noises all day (as you see, I don't like birds being birds). It is a rented place, so I will be leaving it soon. The other neighbours are retired persons, I am the only one who uses his backyard.

My boss did the same a year ago, his neighbour had lots of frogs (he didn't like frogs being frogs) so he ended leaving the place.

If you look at whirpool forums, you will see what is the standard approach by the council in these cases. They take you details so, in case that something happens to the dog, they have your name.
I've been down the council path before on other issues. I wouldn't go so far as to say they are totally useless, after all, they're great at collecting rates.
I know how the council operates with respect to these matters and that is not the solution I am after. We'll see how the frequency generator, amplifier, speaker combination works. Any further advice to this method will be much appreciated.

[Disco Muppet]

Well if it's just animals being animals then I'll tell my neighbours they have no right to complain when my pet velociraptor snacks on their kids as they walk to school. :twisted:

[RisingSun]

When councils get involved in Barking dog complaints, the usually work under the local law of minimum standards for keeping an animal, in this case the animal being a nuisance.
In order to satisfy that the animal is a nuisance it is the authorized officer that needs to be satisfied the animal is a nuisance, not the owner or the complaining neighbour, because any paper work issued has the authorized persons signature on the bottom and the authorized council officer is the one who has to defend the decision to remove the dog, fine the owner etc to the magistrate / judge.

To be satisfied that the animal is a nuisance time must be spent establishing the animal is a nuisance not just a neighborhood dispute ( time = money) that is why councils try every other solution first and ask the complaining neighbour to fill in a time sheet to establish a pattern of barking. Officers will usually do a neighborhood survey. Then officers know when to go to the area (not usually parked in front of the animals residence) and then record everything they hear, which means everyone else's dogs as well, roosters, birds, people walking in the streets. If this monitoring happens at 3 in the morning the officer is on penalty rates, and to establish it as a problem this needs to be done at least 3 times.

The cost to council when the officer starts monitoring starts to add up, and you can guarantee the complaints start coming in about officers sitting around doing nothing wasting rate payers money.

In the end somebody hates the outcome, the owner is annoyed that they have been told to shut their dog up or they will be fined, dog removed, or asked to remove the dog from the shire. Or the complaining neighbour is annoyed that you tell them that the level of barking is acceptable and no further action is taken. The public then complain to council that their officers should be doing something more constructive then bullying people about their animals. Pile that on top of all the other abuse these officers get on a daily basis and you can see why council will try everything to solve the problem before it gets to council intervention.

After all that the officer then probably gets to go out and become the parking officer to reap the rewards from its rate payers :D.
Perhaps I should get a real job, like I get told on a regular basis.

[CapableCate]

When councils get involved in Barking dog complaints, the usually work under the local law of minimum standards for keeping an animal, in this case the animal being a nuisance.
In order to satisfy that the animal is a nuisance it is the authorized officer that needs to be satisfied the animal is a nuisance, not the owner or the complaining neighbour, because any paper work issued has the authorized persons signature on the bottom and the authorized council officer is the one who has to defend the decision to remove the dog, fine the owner etc to the magistrate / judge.

To be satisfied that the animal is a nuisance time must be spent establishing the animal is a nuisance not just a neighborhood dispute ( time = money) that is why councils try every other solution first and ask the complaining neighbour to fill in a time sheet to establish a pattern of barking. Officers will usually do a neighborhood survey. Then officers know when to go to the area (not usually parked in front of the animals residence) and then record everything they hear, which means everyone else's dogs as well, roosters, birds, people walking in the streets. If this monitoring happens at 3 in the morning the officer is on penalty rates, and to establish it as a problem this needs to be done at least 3 times.

The cost to council when the officer starts monitoring starts to add up, and you can guarantee the complaints start coming in about officers sitting around doing nothing wasting rate payers money.

In the end somebody hates the outcome, the owner is annoyed that they have been told to shut their dog up or they will be fined, dog removed, or asked to remove the dog from the shire. Or the complaining neighbour is annoyed that you tell them that the level of barking is acceptable and no further action is taken. The public then complain to council that their officers should be doing something more constructive then bullying people about their animals. Pile that on top of all the other abuse these officers get on a daily basis and you can see why council will try everything to solve the problem before it gets to council intervention.

After all that the officer then probably gets to go out and become the parking officer to reap the rewards from its rate payers :D.
Perhaps I should get a real job, like I get told on a regular basis.

As an ex Council staff member, supervising Animal Control Officers, you've got it in one! I'm surmising you've either worked in Animal Control too, or been through 'the process' with a dog complaint yourself, as most people don't have anywhere near that depth of understanding!! Cate :)

[R Miller]

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