On board Camera

[Lionelgee]

G'day All,

There are sometimes when having an on board video camera in a car would be just so handy. I was coming back from Nambour heading to home this morning and driving through road works. Since I used to work on the roads I totally respect speed limit signs during road works. I had a New South Wales driver in a shiny blue newish Commodore up my tail the whole 5 klms of the section. This was real road works with graders, trucks rollers and bitumen layers and people on foot working. Not, as often seems to be the case now speed restriction signs and not a machine or a soul to be seen - not even on the edge of the road having smoko under a tree.

Anyway just before the 80 klm at the end of the road works moved up to 100 clicks I was in a single lane with double centre lines and 500 metres in front of me was an overtaking lane. Next thing I know was the blue Commodore nearly side-swiping me as he overtook me over the double centre lines. Then he rapidly disappeared into the distance totally disregarding the legal limit of 100 klms per hour. Times like these it would be nice to walk into the local Police station and give them a gift they can use to prosecute such ignorant prats who totally disregard the rules.These are rules in the case of road workers that protect people's lives as they go about earning a living. Vent completed.

Kind Regards
Lionel

[87County]

Vent completely understood...


Sort of thing that happens all the time everywhere - the police either don't have the time or the interest to do anything about it unfortunately (at least in NSW).

Drivers even do it in the town 50km/hr streets around here, well exceeding the speed limits, they're in such a hurry.....

The only thing one can do is to be totally defensive and keep in mind to take a way out of a dangerous situation if possible.


- and I agree that one of those cameras could be handy for one's own defence in case we don't quite make it out with our defensive driving

[trog]

keep your eyes on e bay for a rocket launcher.bound to be one for sale somewhere :twisted:

[Lionelgee]

keep your eyes on e bay for a rocket launcher.bound to be one for sale somewhere :twisted:


Hello Trog,

A friend suggested that I save my 5 cent coins for one of these - not sure if they are on eBay?
Dillon Aero- M134D Gatling Gun "Air-Sea-Land" - YouTube

Kind Regards
Lionel

[Chops]

I had two incidences on the way home from work this arvo :mad:, and both times I wish my camera had been on. :(
Its got a blown fuse at the moment :(

But I wonder,, would the police actually do anything if you presented them with the footage?

A near accident, I doubt they'd worry, of course an actual collision, they'll be there anyway.
If it something to do with speeding, unless you can prove what speed you/they are at, I reckon it'd be the same,,, no action :(

[trog]

Hello Trog,

A friend suggested that I save my 5 cent coins for one of these - not sure if they are on eBay?
Dillon Aero- M134D Gatling Gun "Air-Sea-Land" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6i1UnfJwkQ)

Kind Regards
Lionel


Everything is for sale on E Bay or the right pub. That would be nice mounted in the chassis of the D2. tail gaters or lane choppers gone in a flash. My Christmas wish list is complete.

[87County]

IMHO Chops, you've got it worked out as it is - at least in NSW :(





drive defensively

[Homestar]

Imagine the revenue stream they could have if the Police had a website where you could upload videos of dick heads for them to look at. As mentioned, speeding would be a hard one, but overtaking while unsafe and running stop signs and red lights would be a no brainer. You would only need one person sitting in front of the computer typing up tickets... Would pay for itself and more...

[goingbush]

I posted this on youtube
Defender Dashcam near miss , Hilux Bogan - YouTube

and sent the Goulburn LAC a link, despite the logistic issue with me being in Vic , the Hilux being ACT rego and the incident being in NSW , they arranged a statement next time I was in NSW (a few months later), I also furnished video from 5 mins prior and 5 mins later and they did proceed against the owner / driver

But I dont know the outcome

[ATH]

That's normal every day WA driving and wouldn't raise any interest from the cops. Anyway, why were you sitting in the right lane obstructing other drivers?
Why not pull over and let others, speeding or not, (it's none of your business if they are) go past without having to weave around you?
AlanH.

[Reads90]

I drive all round North NSW and Qld and the NT for work. I do about 80,000ks a year

I hit a roo the other day in the company car on the middle of nowhere.

So I am now seriously think of one of these in car cameras that videos everything and just rewrites it's self. I have a go pro but that would not work.

I have seen some really strange things on the road and would love to have recorded them but also I think due to the amount of idiots on the road I think I am going to need it as proof soon when one of these idiots hit me.

Ali

[Davo]

I think the video from the previous post is from a Blackvue camera. I'm planning on getting a couple . . . money allowing, as usual.

[SBD4]

Blackvue now have one that has both forward and rear facing cameras.

[iClick]

That's normal every day WA driving and wouldn't raise any interest from the cops. Anyway, why were you sitting in the right lane obstructing other drivers?
Why not pull over and let others, speeding or not, (it's none of your business if they are) go past without having to weave around you?
AlanH.

Personally I see no issues with goingbush's driving. He appears to be passing slower vehicles whilst travelling at or slightly above the posted speed limit. Where is the problem??

[goingbush]

Personally I see no issues with goingbush's driving. He appears to be passing slower vehicles whilst travelling at or slightly above the posted speed limit. Where is the problem??

correct,
the wide angle view of the camera makes objects appear further than they reallv are (so the gap the Hilux squeezed thru was much smaller than it appears) I was indeed overtaking a number slower cars travelling on the left , and if you were privy to the footage before and after the event you would see that I had only moved to the right to overtake those cars

ATH has issues with my driving driving , fair enough, I'm no saint, but I did add to the post just to point out that the Police do indeed follow up these dashcam incidents ( but the cops had no issue with my diving even tho I was clearly 3 kph over the limit)

[Tombie]

I think the video from the previous post is from a Blackvue camera. I'm planning on getting a couple . . . money allowing, as usual.

Traffic getting a bit brutal up Fitzroy Crossing way?

[Chucaro]

I posted this on youtube
Defender Dashcam near miss , Hilux Bogan - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_CTzhbXPOA)

and sent the Goulburn LAC a link, despite the logistic issue with me being in Vic , the Hilux being ACT rego and the incident being in NSW , they arranged a statement next time I was in NSW (a few months later), I also furnished video from 5 mins prior and 5 mins later and they did proceed against the owner / driver

But I dont know the outcome

It is hard to appreciate the distances between cars but have thw police not mentioned nothing to you regarding keeping the left?
Looking at the video and the way that I am driving after you overtaken the car I would put the indicator and change to the left line.

[goingbush]

It is hard to appreciate the distances between cars but have thw police not mentioned nothing to you regarding keeping the left?
Looking at the video and the way that I am driving after you overtaken the car I would put the indicator and change to the left line.

I was in the right lane to overtake slower cars. The cops analized the video by counting the white lines which are a known fixed length to calculate the distances vs time . they had no issue with either my speed (113k) or the fact that it looks like I was travelling in the right lane.

as I said before I gave them video 5 mins before and after and I'm in the left the whole time exept for over taking cars. I'm not going zig & zag in and out like an idiot, esp at 110k .

the thread was about weather its worth sending videos to the cops, but from the peanut gallery apparantly it appears I'm at fault for hogging the right lane and the Hiulux driver is ok squeezing thru the impossible gap . No wonder the thread about Grey Nomads / slow caravan drivers is getting emotive.

[jerryd]

It's not just Toyota drivers that drive like idiots and think they own the road ;)


Idiot in his Land Rover nearly takes the front of my car - YouTube


Bad driving video by a Land Rover Discovery 4 - YouTube

[dazray]

I can't see how anyone with common sense would say you we're hogging the right lane. You looked to be clearly passing slower cars at a good pace. Their is no excuse for impatient drivers driving erratically and dangerously to save a few minutes on their trip.
I am constantly amazed at how many cars almost cut the nose off our car when pulling back in front of us while we are towing our 2.7 tone caravan at the posted speed limit and then don't keep moving away allowing a safe gap between us and them.

[mick88]

Not much in the way of indicator use in any of those vids either!

Cheers, Mick.

[Chucaro]

I was in the right lane to overtake slower cars. The cops analized the video by counting the white lines which are a known fixed length to calculate the distances vs time . they had no issue with either my speed (113k) or the fact that it looks like I was travelling in the right lane.

as I said before I gave them video 5 mins before and after and I'm in the left the whole time exept for over taking cars. I'm not going zig & zag in and out like an idiot, esp at 110k .

the thread was about weather its worth sending videos to the cops, but from the peanut gallery apparantly it appears I'm at fault for hogging the right lane and the Hiulux driver is ok squeezing thru the impossible gap . No wonder the thread about Grey Nomads / slow caravan drivers is getting emotive.

I said " It is hard to appreciate the distances between cars " ;)
Regarding the Hilux and how it overtake you, there is not a dispute that he was in the wrong and if you was at the speed limit then even if you was in the left for him to overtake you he will need to drive overt the legal speed limit.
It was not my intention to blame you, perhaps I expressed my way wrong.
My worry was if the police can make the observation that I mentioned and try to put you in trouble and this comment IMO is in line with what the thread was all about.
Regarding the recorded films I just wonder; have to be submitted with the camera or in a DVD?
How it can be proved in court that the original film was not re-edited?
Just a thought.
Cheers

[rb30gtr]

I posted this on youtube
Defender Dashcam near miss , Hilux Bogan - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_CTzhbXPOA)

and sent the Goulburn LAC a link, despite the logistic issue with me being in Vic , the Hilux being ACT rego and the incident being in NSW , they arranged a statement next time I was in NSW (a few months later), I also furnished video from 5 mins prior and 5 mins later and they did proceed against the owner / driver

But I dont know the outcome

Yeah crazy stuff that's for sure.

But what you are forgetting - everyone has their own story.

Maybe he has a friend in the car having a heart attack? Or rushing home to a house on fire? Or ate a really bad curry and is about to destroy his favorite jeans?

Every person you see drive past, or anyone walking in the street, everyone has their own personal story.

Maybe he is posting on a forum somewhere saying - 'I was rushing home to my dieing mother and some a-hole reported my driving to the police, now I have a huge fine because someone judged that 15 minutes of my driving career and took it apon themselves to report me without knowing who I am and what my story is'..

Just my thoughts anyway.

[Chucaro]

Informative reading

What Are The Legal Issues When Using A Dashcam? (http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2013/06/ask-lh-what-are-the-legal-issues-when-using-a-dashcam/)

and this link:
Taking photographs and other images (http://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/69.%20Particular%20Privacy%20Issues%20Affecting%20 Children%20and%20Young%20People/taking-photographs-an)

Quote:
The Privacy Act and images

69.110 The Privacy Act protects personal information that is held, or collected for inclusion, in a ‘record’. A ‘record’ is defined to include a photograph or other pictorial representation of a person.[133] If an individual’s identity is apparent, or can reasonably be ascertained, from a photograph or other image, then the collection, use and disclosure of that image is covered by the Privacy Act. This extends to video images as well as still photographs. The rest of this chapter uses the term ‘image’ to cover photographs and moving images. All of the privacy principles applicable to the collection and use and disclosure of personal information also will apply to the taking and publication of images.

69.111 As with other forms of personal information, the coverage of images is limited by the scope of the Privacy Act. For example, an image is not covered by the Privacy Act if it was taken by an individual who is acting in their private capacity. The image is also not covered if the image was taken by someone acting on behalf of a small business.[134] Similarly, images taken by a person acting on behalf of a state or territory agency are not covered by the Privacy Act, although they may be covered by a state or territory law.[135]
End of Quote.