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4xforgold
30th September 2013, 11:57 PM
Saw one today on a D4, though I would post link as search didn't come up with a result.
http://www.ecb.com.au/vehicle.php?Make=19&Model=80&variant=920&SEARCH2.x=54&SEARCH2.y=17&SEARCH2=SEARCH

Graeme
1st October 2013, 05:47 AM
Here's mine.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1318.jpg

SBD4
1st October 2013, 06:05 AM
Saw one today on a D4, though I would post link as search didn't come up with a result.
http://www.ecb.com.au/vehicle.php?Make=19&Model=80&variant=920&SEARCH2.x=54&SEARCH2.y=17&SEARCH2=SEARCH (http://http://www.ecb.com.au/vehicle.php?Make=19&Model=80&variant=920&SEARCH2.x=54&SEARCH2.y=17&SEARCH2=SEARCH)

Fixed the link:
Land Rover Discovery ECB Alloy Bullbars Nudge Bars Bull Bars Series Discovery 4 (http://www.ecb.com.au/vehicle.php?Make=19&Model=80&variant=920&SEARCH2.x=54&SEARCH2.y=17&SEARCH2=SEARCH#type8)

TerryO
1st October 2013, 06:29 AM
Here's mine.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1318.jpg

Out of interest Graeme, how much does the ECB weigh in comparison to a steel ARB for instance?

4xforgold
1st October 2013, 07:04 AM
Aluminium is say 1/3 the weight of steel so even if they had to beef the alloy bar to increase strength I cannot see it weighing more than half that of steel. Just a guess. Nice to see an alloy winch bar or two out there.

TerryO
1st October 2013, 07:28 AM
Agreed aluminium is a lot lighter than steel but its tensile strength is a lot less so they usually have to make alloy bars a lot thicker compared to a steel one to get reasonably similar strength. That being the case sometimes the weight isn't much different.

I like the idea of an alloy bar to save weight, but it ifs not reasonably strong then it becomes mainly for show and that means it becomes an expensive nudge bar.

sheerluck
1st October 2013, 07:33 AM
I've got the same bar as Graeme sitting in my shed, and I would guess that the bar itself weighs around 15-20kg, as it's quite easily picked up and moved around by hand. All the steel brackets weigh about another 10-12kg, so at a guess, I would say the whole thing weighs between 25 and 32kg. Somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3 the weight of an ARB?

TerryO
1st October 2013, 08:04 AM
Everything I remember reading over the years is the difference in weight between an alloy bar once you add on the steel bracing that comes with them and a full steel bar is not that much.

I have seen a number of seriously damaged alloy bars from hitting wild life, but few damaged steel ones.

Graeme
1st October 2013, 09:26 AM
I fitted the ECB bar because it became available when ARB still didn't know when they might start producing theirs, after having placed my order for an ARB one very early on. I don't particularly like the appearance of either bar but its there to do a job and if it gets damaged in a roo strike then perhaps I'll try something different next time. The winch will be fitted when I get around to acquiring some rope and a new fairlead in case I get too adventurous with my van attached (forever hopeful).

Disco Muppet
1st October 2013, 10:46 AM
An ARB steel winch bar for a D2 is ≥60Kg, I'd imagine a D3/4 one would be a bit heavier still.

BobD
1st October 2013, 01:59 PM
I have one the same as Graeme's on my D4 but it is colour coded Stornaway Grey. The lower skirt bends easily and I would like it to be black to be able touch up the scratches that occur on the skirt. However, the rest of it is very strong and rigid and looks good with the color coded paint. One of the heaviest bits is the thick steel winch mount bolted to the chassis behind the bar. I was thinking of removing my winch mounting brackets to save weight but haven't got around to it yet.

Bob

Redback
1st October 2013, 04:36 PM
An ARB steel winch bar for a D2 is ≥60Kg, I'd imagine a D3/4 one would be a bit heavier still.

Mine ARB bar on my D2 was only 60kg;)

My Opposite Lock bar on my D4 is around the same.

Disco Muppet
1st October 2013, 04:41 PM
Mine ARB bar on my D2 was only 60kg;)

My Opposite Lock bar on my D4 is around the same.

I said equal to or greater than :p