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mtb_gary
2nd October 2013, 12:53 PM
I've not seen these advertised before. Not a suspension lift but a 3" body lift!

3" Body Lift KIT Range Rover P38* | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251350189154)

Combined with a 2" suspension lift, an extra 1" from the Gen III's and the additional 1 1/2" of the 265/75/16's totalling 7 1/2" higher than stock and that's getting to be a very high and probably somewhat unstable truck! :twisted:

Gary

davidsonsm
2nd October 2013, 01:35 PM
I see there is a 2" option also from the same seller.

davidsonsm
2nd October 2013, 01:41 PM
Who's going to be the guinea pig and plump for a set?

mtb_gary
2nd October 2013, 01:47 PM
Not me, I already get complaints now ftom SWMBO that the car is too high and too hard to get in and out of....and that's with side steps! :angel:

Gary

davidsonsm
2nd October 2013, 02:22 PM
Would the misses complain if she simply couldn't get in? You could provide her with a step of steps. She what she says about that? I can just hear my misses having a dig now - about another potential project!!

Seriously though, what do our state laws decree on body lifts? Assume you'd need the car inspecting.

BTW - I'm not contemplating. I'm not - keep telling myself.

Keithy P38
2nd October 2013, 02:28 PM
It's sadly not an option for a P38.

It is illegal to body lift any vehicle with SRS airbags!

But 3" would get the room for 33's without needing to do the suspension!

highrr
2nd October 2013, 02:59 PM
Ooohhh, I mite give it a go

Keithy P38
2nd October 2013, 03:19 PM
It'd make it easy to reach the rear air lines when changing air springs too!

wayneg
2nd October 2013, 04:39 PM
Ooohhh, I mite give it a go


If you do please take lots of pictures and give us your views.

FANTOM P38
2nd October 2013, 09:36 PM
Ooohhh, I mite give it a go

Hey mate, would give us good reason to call you HIGHRR!

996TURBO
3rd October 2013, 05:18 AM
We already have 3 P38 with 1,5 inch body lift on the french bulletin board.

Works fine with big wheels:)

davidsonsm
3rd October 2013, 05:53 AM
Excuse my ignorance with the body lift but how do you realign the bumpers? They are attached to the chassis. The body is lifted off the chassis leaving the bumper in situ. It would look awful. Or am I missing something glaringly obvious?

TheTree
3rd October 2013, 07:02 AM
Hi

Like everything lifting, to me anyway, is a compromise.

You gain better ground clearance but lose roll over angle due to the higher centre of gravity.

Obviously the ******* who drive around in the jacked up nissyotas think they rule the world, but I would like to see them follow a P38 across the side of a hill :p

ON that note I once read that with a manual EAS setup you could in theory raise one side of the beast 5" more than the other side for traversing something really gnarly :eek:

Steve

davidsonsm
3rd October 2013, 07:43 AM
Hey Steve,

n'tthere is no reason why you couldn't jack up one side and lower the other, by using the EAS delay timer isolation switch (which we all have now - don't we?), combined with the EAS by-pass valves for manual pumping.

Worth remembering. Would be great to see somebody try it - taking some poser shots. Even if its only a grass bank. Might go looking for one.


Sean.

Pete38
3rd October 2013, 04:25 PM
Hey Steve,

n'tthere is no reason why you couldn't jack up one side and lower the other, by using the EAS delay timer isolation switch (which we all have now - don't we?), combined with the EAS by-pass valves for manual pumping.

Worth remembering. Would be great to see somebody try it - taking some poser shots. Even if its only a grass bank. Might go looking for one.


Sean.

Yeh it's one thing I remember but then forget in the heat of the moment. Get hung up underneath and manually pump the car up to stop things scraping. I'd be worried about over pumping till the shocks stroke out and bust something.. Although the pressure would rise in the pump when that happens I guess.

Most of the time the emergency mode doesn't get activated. Well it never has for me in my p38 but I guess when I've been hung up it hasn't had all wheels hanging lower than the targets.

996TURBO
4th October 2013, 07:47 AM
Excuse my ignorance with the body lift but how do you realign the bumpers? They are attached to the chassis. The body is lifted off the chassis leaving the bumper in situ. It would look awful. Or am I missing something glaringly obvious?


You can realign the bumper by modifying the bumpers brackets or use custom bumpers

mtb_gary
4th October 2013, 09:45 AM
Hey Steve,

n'tthere is no reason why you couldn't jack up one side and lower the other, by using the EAS delay timer isolation switch (which we all have now - don't we?), combined with the EAS by-pass valves for manual pumping.

Worth remembering. Would be great to see somebody try it - taking some poser shots. Even if its only a grass bank. Might go looking for one.


Sean.

Or hook up the laptop to the EAS suite and change from inside the car?

Gary

benji
5th October 2013, 10:24 AM
As a half way solution, if you go slow enough the eas will take out all the body roll. I had a photo of my classic on a 35 degree slope with no body roll, but i find it's mostly the brake pedal that stops the eas levelling on really slow going, which is one of the reasons im putting in a switch to cut the brake line to the ecu.

I have to say though, I've been amazed at the stability of the p38. Dad followed the same line I did last years and had his d1 on 2 wheels - the p38 still felt stable.

In a lot of situations offroad though its the wheel articulation that makes it stable, a lot of side leans are a result of crossing errosion gulles - but granted on a uniform sidelean it'd be unreall what you'd be able to drive.

DT-P38
6th October 2013, 12:57 AM
if you go slow enough the eas will take out all the body roll.
I don't think I have experienced this, or am I reading it wrong?

Do you mean the P38 will stay level ON a side slope or level TO the side slope?

benji
6th October 2013, 12:14 PM
It'll stay level to the slope - but it takes a while to sort itself out, and obviously wont do it it's undulating ground.

It'd also be good to have manual control to push the wheels down into the ruts when your cross axled too.

Pete38
6th October 2013, 12:34 PM
It'll stay level to the slope - but it takes a while to sort itself out, and obviously wont do it it's undulating ground.

It'd also be good to have manual control to push the wheels down into the ruts when your cross axled too.

Hi Benji. I'm pretty sure the axle naturally wants to go down as it is so pushing more air in with a lifted wheel won't cause it to touch the ground. I only noticed lifting wheels off road when the shocks reach their limit. Except in the case where the car is lifted on a jack using the diff or towards the centre of the axles, nut adding air here only lifts the body and not push the wheels down.

But I could be wrong... Let me think and ponder a little more...

Peter

benji
7th October 2013, 06:29 AM
It'd only help in those situations where a tiny bit more traction would see you through. Obviously if you lift wheels you need diff locks etc.