Rear bar fabrication

[TheTree]

Hi,

The ongoing discussion about rear bars has come up again and it seems to me we may be able to organise a group buy type of arrangement

We would need to arrive at a design and then see how many are interested and how much it will cost.

A good start wold be a design based on three discussions on these forums, check here for the three threads I have found so far Range Rover Websites (http://p38.hts.com.au/rangie_websites.html)

I think it would be good to see if one fabricator can cut and weld the units, so the buyer can do their own finishing.

I also think it should have the stubs for the wheel and jerry can carriers attached, or at least have an option to do so.

What do others think of this idea?

Steve
"I have a cunning plan" :p

[Keithy P38]

I like your cunning plan Steve!

I live up in North QLD though, so freight is the killer for me...

I have a boilermaker available to make rear bars (with twin wheel carriers or wheel/Jerry combo) at a more-than-reasonable price. I could investigate if he would be interested in doing more?

Freight would be the worst part of it.

It would not be viable cost-wise for me to purchase one from interstate, so I will be getting mine made up here.

Anyone want to buy my bike so I can get my bar and other fab work done!?!

Cheers
Keithy

[TheTree]

Hi

Yes i thought freight may be a killer, so I guess the best we can do is come up with a design and maybe the CNC codes for the cutter.

Steve

[rc42]

I've been trying to get rear bar with dual swing out carriers with a twin jerry can option for one side from Ben at APT since June but he's been so swamped with other work that he can't get round to it.
I contact him about once a month but he always says that he hasn't forgotten me and will call me in a couple of weeks, after four months I'm starting to think its not going to happen.

As well as the usual high lift jack points and recovery points I'd love to have the option to mount a small (say 4,000lb) winch on the rear bar, it could certainly get you backwards out of trouble even if a dual line pull was needed and would be great for helping with hitching a camper trailer on soft ground or hauling your boat up if its own trailer winch failed.

I'll be watching this thread with great interest.

[benji]

Steve, would your plan be flexible enough for someone to just get the swing away carriers?

Also recovery points would be high on the list.

[rangerdanger]

Folks,
You'll notice that I have already posted the cad files for the 'ranger danger' design bar and carriers on the forum earlier this year which can be lazer cut and folded by anybody who is keen. The cad file has incorporated a few little design improvements and also has a design for rock sliders and a front bash plate, all fitted to my vehicle. Photos cad files and my costs for materials are included in the thread.

It would be great to see a production run after the time that went into the design and prototyping.
Note that the bar itself is relatively cheap, the swing-away carriers are where it gets expensive, what with hubs and latches.

I've since been bush with the setup and it is paying big dividends in both clearance and extra interior space. Note that I plan to fit tail / reverse lights to the bar as it is borderline legal without them.

I watch with great interest.....

Troy N

[Pete38]

Thanks Troy. I'm likely to build my own to match the xrox bar but some details will definitely be useful.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/p38a-range-rover/175330-diy-rear-bar-swing-away-carrier.html

[TheTree]

Hi Troy,

Yes i have those files and was hoping to use them as a basis, however I don't have autocad and the viewer I found for my Mac shows them as tiny and I can't get them to print out.:angry:

I think your design is pretty close to perfect, I was just hoping to go over it really.

It would surely be easy to have options like, "if carrier required, drill 40mm hole here", "recovery points are welded here"

I have a mate in Taree who runs a fabrication shop, I think a drive up there is looking very likely.

Regards
Steve

[Pete38]

Hi Steve,

I can convert them to pdf if you like?

Peter.

[TheTree]

Hi Steve,

I can convert them to pdf if you like?

Peter.

Hi Peter

That would be great so I can give them a look over :D

I am sure my mate will be able to read the autocad files when we get to that point

Steve

[Pete38]

Hi Peter

That would be great so I can give them a look over :D

I am sure my mate will be able to read the autocad files when we get to that point

Steve

No worries. I have meetings this morning but will convert them before mid day today I'd say. Might upload them in this forum leaving the ranger danger details (or Troy) with them

[Pete38]

Here are the drawings directly exported as pdf. These are exactly how Troy (Danger Ranger) drew them. I have not really looked at them, purely exported them.

You will see there is an overview pdf of the drawing. Then the "1.pdf" shows the assembled drawing of the part shown in column 1 of his table. 1a is column 1 row a.... 4c is column 4 row c.... You'll get the drift when you open them.

Note that the pdf's can loose some detail on line weights and resolution compared to the original drawings but it gives you an idea.

[Pete38]

More files due to limit of 5 in one post

[Pete38]

More

[rangerdanger]

A few comments..
You'll notice there are no dimensions, so there is a reliance on the fabricator being able to open the file in autocad or a cad viewer to pull dimensions and box section sizes for things like the the swingaways. I've done this so the person who is making it checks everything prior to welding it out. There is a bit of trial fitting needed, so you have to count on a bit of work at home to finish things off.

The lazer cutting files are ready to cut from, using thicknesses stated on the main drawing. I've included folding angles on the bumper pieces.

The bar is a good starting point, as most of it goes together straight from the lazer cut components.
BUT! check of your own vehicle to confirm important fitup dimensions are the same as what the cad file indicates AND mark and weld the front brackets on after the main bar is bolted to the chassis.

I can assist with clarifying the little details as required, on an 'all care no responsibility' basis.