It doesn't pay to ride a Harley

[Roverlord off road spares]

A couple of months ago with the with the news of the bikie war, I said to a neighbor he'd better watch out as he just acquired a new Harley Davidson bike and joked he might get caught in the cross fire.:D

Low and behold this morning 2 highway patrol cars some other police cars arrive and a heap of cops get out and have a search warrant for his house and car :eek:
They left shortly after with nothing. This must have been along with the big bikie police swoop this morning on the news.

Now when I see him next I going to have to tell him " I told you so "
or maybe not, after all he is a Collingwood supporter and he could be the Tecoma chapter of the HA:o
Anyway he's always been a polite neighbor and keeps to himself, kicks a footy around with street with neighborhood kids, so I don't think I listen to gossip and rumors.

[VladTepes]

Nothing like a bit of convenient stereotyping eh !

[d2dave]

Now when I see him next I going to have to tell him " I told you so "
or maybe not, after all he is a Collingwood supporter and he couple be the Tecoma chapter of the HA:o

Does he have many teeth:wasntme:

[Roverlord off road spares]

Nothing like a bit of convenient stereotyping eh !
You couldn't stereo type him, he's just a big kid at heart and happens to own a Harley. As I said he's a good bloke, and a neighbor.

[clubagreenie]

In-laws have bikie neighbours, they have the cleanest neatest house in the street. Lawns always mowed, cars always clean. When one of the residents had a new baby (twins) they started trailering the bikes in and out to keep the noise down. Every year there's a Christmas party in the street and they always have pressies for all the kids in the street. Never been an ounce of trouble.

Like anything though, there will always be a mongrel element who's in it for the wrong reasons. Unfortunately they seem to be becoming more and more common as the old guard drifts out.

[rb30gtr]

In-laws have bikie neighbours, they have the cleanest neatest house in the street. Lawns always mowed, cars always clean. When one of the residents had a new baby (twins) they started trailering the bikes in and out to keep the noise down. Every year there's a Christmas party in the street and they always have pressies for all the kids in the street. Never been an ounce of trouble.

Like anything though, there will always be a mongrel element who's in it for the wrong reasons. Unfortunately they seem to be becoming more and more common as the old guard drifts out.

The older school of bikies are very much that discreet, they would rarely poop in their own nest. Most of the time you would not even know they lived in the street,

Problem are the new school Bikies, most of them don't even ride bikes! They can't, just follow in a hectic lowered commodore. Too busy being fully sick, taking roids, and being threatening for the sake of it to feel like a big man.

I have a few mates that ride Harley's just because they like them, no idea why, but each to their own, and they are top blokes and great members of society with no club affiliations. But what happens now when they get stopped by the police?

[bobslandies]

Big difference between bike owners, bikers, general motorcycle clubs and their members and the 1%, "M"s and tooled up outlaw gangs.

Bob

[clubagreenie]

Best thing is I can call them out for riding a stationary engine.

[bob10]

For years we had the Master At Arms of the Rebel MC living across the road. Kept to himself, but had a few domestics, have to say they didn't hurt any one but themselves. Any one living in Brisbane might remember the stoush between the Rebels & another club, Bandido's I think, on the Bribie Island road a few years ago. There was a shooting, old mate across the road was the shooter. We had he & his mates across home for BBQ's, because his children went to the same school as ours. He was a hard man, but never crapped in his own nest. Brett was his name.

My cousin is a member of the Vietnam Veterans MC, I worked with a man who was a member of a Christian MC , The Tribe Of Judah, who are a group who help the disadvantaged. I don't know how the new rules apply to them. In the past, the " bikies" kept to themselves, & were self regulating. Now it seems they are just full on crims. Some of them don't even ride bikes, for goodness sake. They need to be sorted, Bob

[Treads]

The only bike riders that need to be concerned about a knock on the door at 6am are the 1% crowd ie the 'gentleman' mentioned in post #1 ;)

[LowRanger]

The only bike riders that need to be concerned about a knock on the door at 6am are the 1% crowd ie the 'gentleman' mentioned in post #1 ;)

Actually the only ones that need to be worried about that knock on the door are the 1% that are actually breaking the law,and not just members of a MC club;)

[Roverlord off road spares]

I had a customer, a good regular customer that bought Disco parts from us on an almost fortnightly interval.
Then on night on the News I hear my customer had been arrested, he was not only buying Disco parts from me, but he was also buying explosive/bomb making gear:eek:. Needless to say he was convicted and I lost a good customer:(

[bob10]

I had a customer, a good regular customer that bought Disco parts from us on an almost fortnightly interval.
Then on night on the News I hear my customer had been arrested, he was not only buying Disco parts from me, but he was also buying explosive/bomb making gear:eek:. Needless to say he was convicted and I lost a good customer:(

He wasn't a frustrated disco owner who had had enough & was going to blow it up, I hope :eek: :) Bob

[Disco Muppet]

he was not only buying Disco parts from me, but he was also buying explosive/bomb making gear:eek:.

:eek::eek::eek: I didn't notice those in your catalogue!

[bob10]

Just an aside on Bikie clubs, my cousin told me that when the vietnam veterans started their club, they had colours made up, and on the back, had the logo etc., but added the small "mc "' after the logo. they were contacted by the Hells Angels & told they did not have the right to add the "mc " to their colours, & told to remove it, or their would be retribution. After much negotiation, Hells Angels Australia gave them permission to add "mc " to their colours. As far as I know, only they & the Tribe Of Judah have been given permission to have that " mc" on their colours. Ulysses club, I have been told, tried it on, but were warned off in no uncertain terms. Crazy, but true, apparently. Bob

[LowRanger]

Just an aside on Bikie clubs, my cousin told me that when the vietnam veterans started their club, they had colours made up, and on the back, had the logo etc., but added the small "mc "' after the logo. they were contacted by the Hells Angels & told they did not have the right to add the "mc " to their colours, & told to remove it, or their would be retribution. After much negotiation, Hells Angels Australia gave them permission to add "mc " to their colours. As far as I know, only they & the Tribe Of Judah have been given permission to have that " mc" on their colours. Ulysses club, I have been told, tried it on, but were warned off in no uncertain terms. Crazy, but true, apparently. Bob

There are any number of so called "Christian MCs" around the country and the members are just the same as members of other clubs....no better ..no worse;)

[Treads]

Actually the only ones that need to be worried about that knock on the door are the 1% that are actually breaking the law,and not just members of a MC club;)

There's a notable difference between being a member of a 1% gang and a motorcycle club, hence my original post.

[bob10]

There are any number of so called "Christian MCs" around the country and the members are just the same as members of other clubs....no better ..no worse;)

That may be true, but this mob seem to interact to the outlaw gangs. I was wrong with the " mc " bit, they have "mm " motorcycle ministries. An interesting group. At this point, I have to say I have no affiliation with the tribe of Judah. But it is an interesting story, & I'm willing to bet, like no other Christian MC club in Australia Check out the first video, interesting, Bob edit I would like to know if that statement is based on fact, or just off the cuff, what we call, a XXXX moment.

Transparent TV - Tribe of Judah Part 1 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/SQgE67eqXL0)
Tribe of Judah Free Food Friday - YouTube (http://youtu.be/KCbvDNQg9hE)

[LowRanger]

That may be true, but this mob seem to interact to the outlaw gangs. I was wrong with the " mc " bit, they have "mm " motorcycle ministries. An interesting group. At this point, I have to say I have no affiliation with the tribe of Judah. But it is an interesting story, & I'm willing to bet, like no other Christian MC club in Australia Check out the first video, interesting, Bob edit I would like to know if that statement is based on fact, or just off the cuff, what we call, a XXXX moment.

Transparent TV - Tribe of Judah Part 1 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/SQgE67eqXL0)
Tribe of Judah Free Food Friday - YouTube (http://youtu.be/KCbvDNQg9hE)

There are a number of these sorts of "clubs" around the country,and they are what is known as 1%.And freely associate in 1% circles.And you can bet your bottom dollar that they are known by those that want to know about them;)

[LowRanger]

There's a notable difference between being a member of a 1% gang and a motorcycle club, hence my original post.

I was actually referring to what is known as 1% MCs.And there is a BIG difference to a MC be they 1% or not and a 1% "Gang";)

[bob10]

There are a number of these sorts of "clubs" around the country,and they are what is known as 1%.And freely associate in 1% circles.And you can bet your bottom dollar that they are known by those that want to know about them;)

I'm sure you are correct, but I asked for fact , not supposition. Bob

[LowRanger]

I'm sure you are correct, but I asked for fact , not supposition. Bob

How about doing a search for something like Gods Squad CMC.By the way,they are the Worlds oldest "Patched" CMC .
Some of us may have lead lives outside the Land Rover fraternity at one time in our lives,and may know a little bit more that the average joe on some topics;)

[bob10]

How about doing a search for something like Gods Squad CMC.By the way,they are the Worlds oldest "Patched" CMC .
Some of us may have lead lives outside the Land Rover fraternity at one time in our lives,and may know a little bit more that the average joe on some topics;)
Mate anyone can quote off the internet. Give me some details of your membership, , before I take you seriously bob;)

[LowRanger]

When you are finished looking up those facts,you might want to look up Greg Hirst and the Brotherhood CMC,who have been around for over 30yrs as a fully patched club.A lot goes on in this big country outside what happens in Qld;)

[bob10]

When you are finished looking up those facts,you might want to look up Greg Hirst and the Brotherhood CMC,who have been around for over 30yrs as a fully patched club.A lot goes on in this big country outside what happens in Qld;)
Ok, now we are getting somewhere, when you say fully patched, explain that, Bob

[bob10]

When you are finished looking up those facts,you might want to look up Greg Hirst and the Brotherhood CMC,who have been around for over 30yrs as a fully patched club.A lot goes on in this big country outside what happens in Qld;)

Of course you are right, and sooner or later all the negative elements happening elsewhere seem to end up here. It has got the stage I don't really care about what is happening in Mexico. But, we luv yas all, all the same, Bob Ps this is all I worry about now, [ most times] Not going to look up anything by the way , I'm fully aware of what is going down.



Graeme Connors - A Little Further North - YouTube (http://youtu.be/ajZxKdHhoyM)

[LowRanger]

Ok, now we are getting somewhere, when you say fully patched, explain that, Bob

A fully patched club is a club that you can't join,just because you want to,you have to e asked to join, and then you start as a nom/nominee and then progress to a prospect and then after a period of time,different clubs have different rules,you may be asked to be a full member and receive your patch.
At least that is how it used to be,now days,I hear reports of people buying there way in to certain clubs by way of offering certain benefits to the right people if they are given membership.
I remember when you had to do a minimum of 20,000kms per year on your bike,just to be able to maintain your membership.Nowdays,half the clowns don't even own a bike or don't know how to ride one.Hell,some of these so called clubs have patches and don't ride bikes,but are still labelled as outlaw MCs,how is this possible if they don't ride bikes,apart from maybe a Malvern Star!!!!!!
And just as an aside,it was mentioned that the Ulysses club were warned off due to having MC on their back.It was actually due to the fact that some of the members took it upon themselves to add a lower rocker to the Ulysses image that they wear,and this made it a "Patch" and was seen in some circles as an act of aggression and outside the guidelines that the patched clubs had agreed to in letting the Ulysses club have free reign without fear of retribution from the patched clubs.

[PeterM]

The only bike riders that need to be concerned about a knock on the door at 6am are the 1% crowd ie the 'gentleman' mentioned in post #1 ;)

Incorrect. I know someone with no affiliation to any 1% club who had a 'random' firearms audit by detectives who didn't seem at all interested in his weapons, just on asking him numerous questions about 1% clubs and his supposed affiliations with such.

[PeterM]

A fully patched club is a club that you can't join,just because you want to,you have to e asked to join, and then you start as a nom/nominee and then progress to a prospect and then after a period of time,different clubs have different rules,you may be asked to be a full member and receive your patch.
At least that is how it used to be,now days,I hear reports of people buying there way in to certain clubs by way of offering certain benefits to the right people if they are given membership.
I remember when you had to do a minimum of 20,000kms per year on your bike,just to be able to maintain your membership.Nowdays,half the clowns don't even own a bike or don't know how to ride one.Hell,some of these so called clubs have patches and don't ride bikes,but are still labelled as outlaw MCs,how is this possible if they don't ride bikes,apart from maybe a Malvern Star!!!!!!
And just as an aside,it was mentioned that the Ulysses club were warned off due to having MC on their back.It was actually due to the fact that some of the members took it upon themselves to add a lower rocker to the Ulysses image that they wear,and this made it a "Patch" and was seen in some circles as an act of aggression and outside the guidelines that the patched clubs had agreed to in letting the Ulysses club have free reign without fear of retribution from the patched clubs.

It's more correct to differentiate between clubs that operate on a 1% charter or not. This differentiates between a MC and a social riders club.

Some VVMC chapters operate under a 1% charter but not all of them. The 1% clubs will not allow anyone to wear a 3 piece patch that is not operating under a 1% charter. The Ulysses are treated with contempt by them, even with their single patch as they are trying to buy-in on the image.

[d@rk51d3]

Ahhhh, those Ulysses boys make me giggle, bless 'em. :)

[Treads]

Incorrect. I know someone with no affiliation to any 1% club who had a 'random' firearms audit by detectives who didn't seem at all interested in his weapons, just on asking him numerous questions about 1% clubs and his supposed affiliations with such.

Hmmm, strange ;)