Defender now No 1 stolen vehicle in UK!

[CharlesTeton]

Not good news... Please make sure you add more security to your pride and joy.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/land-rover-defender-is-top-target-1453032

[V8Ian]

Ron Biggs is back, isn't he? ;)

[mattadelaide1975]

Ahh so thats why they are stopping production of them:wasntme:

[bob10]

That's because people are desperate to get out of the place, & choose the most capable vehicle for it. [ meant as a joke, keep smiling], Bob

[scarry]

Couldn't see them doing many ram raids or bank robberies in a Defender:confused:

But i suppose if the police are not allowed to chase,they will be fine....

[goingbush]

Its actually because they are the easiest to steal of any new car.

hasn't caught on in Australia yet, Bogans would prefer a Nissan but they are too hard to nick

[jimr1]

My brother who lives in the UK. sold his 110 defender 300tdi a few years ago , to a fella who lives in the midlands ,he lives on the east cost , the deal was done receipts ,money sorted ect. .the fella happy as Larry , drove his new 110 home . Two days later he phoned my brother to tell him that It had been stolen off his drive , The poor man hadn't even got his rego paperwork back , My brother said he was absolutely gutted .So yes It does happen ..

[CharlesTeton]

Two gone since yesterday and those are just the ones posted on forums... Check out LandyWatch forum.

[87County]

LRs don't really make the stats in Oz...

I guess in the UK a lot would be immediately ferried out of the country to Europe and Africa ?

How do Landcruisers and Patrols go in UK ?


Last year 130 LCs and 94 Patrols were stolen in Australia





from CARS - Publications (http://ncars.on.net/publications.html#stat_reports_heading)


CARS Statistical Report, 2012/13 (revised)
Where were they Sto len?
• The top three local areas for profit motivated thefts in the 2012/13 financial year were Queensland local
government areas which included the Cities of Brisbane (729 thefts), Gold Coast (699 thefts) and Logan
(457 thefts) (Table 37).
• When presented as a rate per 1,000 population, the top four profit motivated theft areas were in Western
Australia, namely the City of Gosnells (4.07), City of Perth (2.94), Town of Kwinana (2.30) and the City of
Belmont (2.23) (Table 38).
• The largest reductions in profit motivated thefts in 2012/13 occurred in the three New South Wales Cities
of Blacktown (down 75 thefts to 291), Lake Macquarie (down 67 thefts to 222) and the Area of Wyong
(down 61 thefts to 167) (Table 39).
• The largest increases in profit motivated thefts were recorded in the two Queensland Cities of Gold Coast
(up 71 thefts to 699) and Brisbane (up 59 thefts to 729), and the City of Rockingham (up 55 to 184 thefts)
in Western Australia.



Page 47 (revised)
• The Holden Commodore VT was again the top profit motivated PLC theft target during the 2012/13
financial year with 267 thefts, followed by Toyota Hilux 1998 - 2004 (264 thefts). The Holden Commodore
VT was also the top profit motivated theft target in the previous financial year with 268 thefts (Table 29).
• With an estimated value of $5,028 for each Holden Commodore VT, the total value of thefts of this one
model was approximately $1.4 million in 2012/13.
• The top ten profit motivated PLC theft targets in 2012/13 accounted for 16% of PLC thefts and were
collectively valued at $17.5 million (where the make, model and series were known).
Table 29: Top passenger/light commercial vehicle profit motivated theft targets by Make/Model/Series, 2012/13
Ranking Number of thefts Sum of Glass's Guide value estimate
2011/12 2012/13 Make Model Series 2011/12 2012/13 2011/12 2012/13


1 1 Holden Commodore VT 268 267 $1,449,141 $1,342,396
4 2 Toyota Hilux MY98_04 158 264 $1,727,713 $2,547,799
3 3 Holden Commodore VX 159 171 $1,113,991 $1,067,264
14 4 Holden Commodore VE 105 169 $2,802,090 $4,382,711
7 5 Toyota Hilux MY89_97 145 162 $708,460 $773,511
9 6 Toyota Hilux MY05_11 139 156 $3,557,884 $3,707,151
15 7 Holden Commodore VY 102 147 $1,194,327 $1,460,750
2 8 Holden Commodore VS 179 135 $748,451 $515,786
6 9 Hyundai Excel X3 150 132 $417,193 $303,033
11 9 Ford Falcon BA 131 132 $1,627,574 $1,406,313

25 10 Toyota Landcruiser 70 Series 72 130 $2,253,810 $4,523,380
13 11 Toyota Hiace MY90_04 128 127 $890,759 $813,732
10 12 Toyota Landcruiser 80 Series 132 121 $1,087,607 $906,465
19 13 Holden Commodore VZ 85 119 $1,242,245 $1,596,560
16 14 Nissan Patrol GQ 94 105 $558,171 $588,451
8 15 Ford Falcon AU 144 103 $1,330,921 $840,916
21 16 Nissan Patrol GU 79 102 $1,671,308 $2,203,160
5 17 Holden Commodore VR 153 96 $554,208 $316,277
33 18 Holden Astra TS 56 82 $453,826 $577,110
12 19 Toyota Camry SV21 129 78 $319,046 $187,674

13 20 Holden Commodore VL 128 76 $615,752 $344,462
40 21 Toyota Landcruiser 100 Series 46 72 $889,143 $1,535,965
18 21 Toyota Hilux 91 72 $288,022 $219,956
23 22 Nissan Skyline MY94_98 77 71 $38,500 $35,500
21 22 Ford Falcon EF 79 71 $289,609 $240,688
4 23 Holden Commodore VN 158 68 $412,184 $169,660
24 24 Ford Falcon EL 74 65 $360,399 $292,857
35 25 Toyota Corolla AE92 53 60 $131,722 $126,839
28 25 Mitsubishi Lancer CE 64 60 $269,731 $234,234
27 26 Ford Falcon Ute BA 66 58 $884,217 $707,063
30 27 Holden Rodeo RA 60 57 $924,719 $835,430
36 27 Ford Falcon FG 52 57 $1,672,505 $1,567,208
39 28 Holden Commodore Ute VE 47 56 $1,423,988 $1,570,326
49 29 Nissan Navara D40 35 55 $987,943 $1,536,957

29 29 Toyota Landcruiser Prado 120 62 55 $2,280,294 $1,856,354
44 30 Toyota Camry SDV10R 41 53 $134,120 $177,974
31 30 Ford Laser KH 58 53 $145,703 $134,222
22 28 Nissan Pulsar N15 78 54 $262,002 $169,808
45 29 Toyota Corolla ZZE122R 39 53 $470,833 $584,098
51 30 Holden Rodeo R9 32 52 $239,961 $296,606
See notes 1, 2 & 10 for further information

[scarry]

LRs don't really make the stats in Oz...

I guess in the UK a lot would be immediately ferried out of the country to Europe and Africa ?

How do Landcruisers and Patrols go in UK ?


Last year 130 LCs and 94 Patrols were stolen in Australia





from CARS - Publications (http://ncars.on.net/publications.html#stat_reports_heading)


CARS Statistical Report, 2012/13 (revised)
Where were they Sto len?
• The top three local areas for profit motivated thefts in the 2012/13 financial year were Queensland local
government areas which included the Cities of Brisbane (729 thefts), Gold Coast (699 thefts) and Logan
(457 thefts) (Table 37).
• When presented as a rate per 1,000 population, the top four profit motivated theft areas were in Western
Australia, namely the City of Gosnells (4.07), City of Perth (2.94), Town of Kwinana (2.30) and the City of
Belmont (2.23) (Table 38).
• The largest reductions in profit motivated thefts in 2012/13 occurred in the three New South Wales Cities
of Blacktown (down 75 thefts to 291), Lake Macquarie (down 67 thefts to 222) and the Area of Wyong
(down 61 thefts to 167) (Table 39).
• The largest increases in profit motivated thefts were recorded in the two Queensland Cities of Gold Coast
(up 71 thefts to 699) and Brisbane (up 59 thefts to 729), and the City of Rockingham (up 55 to 184 thefts)
in Western Australia.



Page 47 (revised)
• The Holden Commodore VT was again the top profit motivated PLC theft target during the 2012/13
financial year with 267 thefts, followed by Toyota Hilux 1998 - 2004 (264 thefts). The Holden Commodore
VT was also the top profit motivated theft target in the previous financial year with 268 thefts (Table 29).
• With an estimated value of $5,028 for each Holden Commodore VT, the total value of thefts of this one
model was approximately $1.4 million in 2012/13.
• The top ten profit motivated PLC theft targets in 2012/13 accounted for 16% of PLC thefts and were
collectively valued at $17.5 million (where the make, model and series were known).
Table 29: Top passenger/light commercial vehicle profit motivated theft targets by Make/Model/Series, 2012/13
Ranking Number of thefts Sum of Glass's Guide value estimate
2011/12 2012/13 Make Model Series 2011/12 2012/13 2011/12 2012/13


1 1 Holden Commodore VT 268 267 $1,449,141 $1,342,396
4 2 Toyota Hilux MY98_04 158 264 $1,727,713 $2,547,799
3 3 Holden Commodore VX 159 171 $1,113,991 $1,067,264
14 4 Holden Commodore VE 105 169 $2,802,090 $4,382,711
7 5 Toyota Hilux MY89_97 145 162 $708,460 $773,511
9 6 Toyota Hilux MY05_11 139 156 $3,557,884 $3,707,151
15 7 Holden Commodore VY 102 147 $1,194,327 $1,460,750
2 8 Holden Commodore VS 179 135 $748,451 $515,786
6 9 Hyundai Excel X3 150 132 $417,193 $303,033
11 9 Ford Falcon BA 131 132 $1,627,574 $1,406,313

25 10 Toyota Landcruiser 70 Series 72 130 $2,253,810 $4,523,380
13 11 Toyota Hiace MY90_04 128 127 $890,759 $813,732
10 12 Toyota Landcruiser 80 Series 132 121 $1,087,607 $906,465
19 13 Holden Commodore VZ 85 119 $1,242,245 $1,596,560
16 14 Nissan Patrol GQ 94 105 $558,171 $588,451
8 15 Ford Falcon AU 144 103 $1,330,921 $840,916
21 16 Nissan Patrol GU 79 102 $1,671,308 $2,203,160
5 17 Holden Commodore VR 153 96 $554,208 $316,277
33 18 Holden Astra TS 56 82 $453,826 $577,110
12 19 Toyota Camry SV21 129 78 $319,046 $187,674

13 20 Holden Commodore VL 128 76 $615,752 $344,462
40 21 Toyota Landcruiser 100 Series 46 72 $889,143 $1,535,965
18 21 Toyota Hilux 91 72 $288,022 $219,956
23 22 Nissan Skyline MY94_98 77 71 $38,500 $35,500
21 22 Ford Falcon EF 79 71 $289,609 $240,688
4 23 Holden Commodore VN 158 68 $412,184 $169,660
24 24 Ford Falcon EL 74 65 $360,399 $292,857
35 25 Toyota Corolla AE92 53 60 $131,722 $126,839
28 25 Mitsubishi Lancer CE 64 60 $269,731 $234,234
27 26 Ford Falcon Ute BA 66 58 $884,217 $707,063
30 27 Holden Rodeo RA 60 57 $924,719 $835,430
36 27 Ford Falcon FG 52 57 $1,672,505 $1,567,208
39 28 Holden Commodore Ute VE 47 56 $1,423,988 $1,570,326
49 29 Nissan Navara D40 35 55 $987,943 $1,536,957

29 29 Toyota Landcruiser Prado 120 62 55 $2,280,294 $1,856,354
44 30 Toyota Camry SDV10R 41 53 $134,120 $177,974
31 30 Ford Laser KH 58 53 $145,703 $134,222
22 28 Nissan Pulsar N15 78 54 $262,002 $169,808
45 29 Toyota Corolla ZZE122R 39 53 $470,833 $584,098
51 30 Holden Rodeo R9 32 52 $239,961 $296,606
See notes 1, 2 & 10 for further information

Defenders may move up the list once they are not made anymore

[CharlesTeton]

Defenders may move up the list once they are not made anymore

That's what I'm worried about in the UK, its going to get worse I fear.

[3toes]

Know this is UK however my neighbour had to have steel lift out posts that are padlocked in with concrete bases installed into front yard and use them with the Defender parked behind them to obtain insurance cover. We are not in a high thieft area.

Interesting that at number 10 on the UK chart is the Renault Laguna. A vehicle which makes the Defender appear reliable and well put together. Think this is people frustrated with the dealer network / manufacturer turning on other owners in an attempt to keep their cars on the road.



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[JDNSW]

This story shows up the pitfalls with taking data from one country to another!

In the UK, the Defender is common, easy to steal, and there is a ready market both for the vehicle and as parts, because of this. Also, most thieves would be familiar with how easy it is to steal, and familiar with driving it.

In Australia, it is uncommon, so it is conspicuous, and not seen as desirable, a restricted market, both for the vehicle and for parts. Few would be thieves are familiar with either how to steal it or how to drive it. And there is no nearby market in a different jurisdiction as there is in the UK! (Australian States now talk to each other about car thefts a lot more than they used to.)

Once no longer produced, it may move up the list, but I doubt it will be very far - the market will still be very restricted, and it will still be conspicuous, even if they become more desirable.


Worth noting that the statistics quoted are for "profit motivated theft targets" - I wonder how the overall figures differ when cars used for ram raids, joyriding, and getaway cars etc are included. Certainly, in this area, I think the majority of thefts would be for joyriding/getaway.

John

[DoubleChevron]

This story shows up the pitfalls with taking data from one country to another!

In the UK, the Defender is common, easy to steal, and there is a ready market both for the vehicle and as parts, because of this. Also, most thieves would be familiar with how easy it is to steal, and familiar with driving it.

In Australia, it is uncommon, so it is conspicuous, and not seen as desirable, a restricted market, both for the vehicle and for parts. Few would be thieves are familiar with either how to steal it or how to drive it. And there is no nearby market in a different jurisdiction as there is in the UK! (Australian States now talk to each other about car thefts a lot more than they used to.)

Once no longer produced, it may move up the list, but I doubt it will be very far - the market will still be very restricted, and it will still be conspicuous, even if they become more desirable.

Out here if you wanted transport, you'd still anything old enough not to have factory imoblisers ...eg: old falcons/commonbores.
Worth noting that the statistics quoted are for "profit motivated theft targets" - I wonder how the overall figures differ when cars used for ram raids, joyriding, and getaway cars etc are included. Certainly, in this area, I think the majority of thefts would be for joyriding/getaway.

John

I'd go further ... In Australia I reckon you could leave it in a council housing estate with the keys in the ignition .............. And just simply putting the transfer case into neutral would mean the locals couldn't figure out how get it moving to steal it, especially if was also a manual.

seeya,
Shane L.

[goingbush]

I'd go further ... In Australia I reckon you could leave it in a council housing estate with the keys in the ignition .............. And just simply putting the transfer case into neutral would mean the locals couldn't figure out how get it moving to steal it, especially if was also a manual.

seeya,
Shane L.

I actually know this has happened to some LR Owners themselves, :wasntme: and on a number of occasions, Kids etc have moved the TC into Neutral, you have no idea how many 4x4 Owners don't even know there is a N between the L & H

[Disco Muppet]

Doesn't quite work for the more modern ones, where you just have to push a button :p
As has been demonstrated, even on here a few times, the defender ain't exactly a difficult vehicle to break into.
Neither are land cruisers, mate of mine broke into his after he locked himself out, only needed a screwdriver.

[scarry]

I'd go further ... In Australia I reckon you could leave it in a council housing estate with the keys in the ignition .............. And just simply putting the transfer case into neutral would mean the locals couldn't figure out how get it moving to steal it, especially if was also a manual.

seeya,
Shane L.

My wife would need that,she gave up after spending 10 minutes trying to work out where the key goes.:D