TD5 Clutch

[jimr1]

Hi my TD5 has now passed 266ks , I've replaced the clutch master and slave cylinders recently , There's not a lot left on the clutch . My question is recommend a good make ? as there are quite a few . Also I would appreciate your thoughts on replacing the duel mass flywheel , or just clutch and pressure plate ? I did read to change the rear oil seal while your at It , but were do you stop . I would appreciate your views from those that have been down this Rd. cheers, jimr1 ...

[noogie]

I just had my clutch changed the other day.
I imported a Valeo clutch kit and dual mass flywheel from UK. Cheaper than getting it here. Definitely change the rear main seal. New spiggot bush and thrust bearing.
Clutch fork was fine as they are a cast iron fork.

Fantastic!
The pedal is a lot softer and changes are really smooth.
Very happy with the valei clutch kit.
I didn't want the heavy duty one as I don't tow much anymore and heard that they can be hard on the gearbox.

[griffman]

AP Racing do a fantastic clutch as used by Alive Tuning on the 180KW TD5

I don;t know if you can get them in Aussie land though - email Alive Tuning and ask them

[strangy]

Definitely change the rear main seal while the box is out.
Where do you stop?.... Well I'd do all the seals on the box and transfer also. It's an extra hour max for an amateur and it's simple preventative maintenance which you won't appreciate unless you don't do it.;)

[laney]

Done mine about 6 months ago I put in a solid fly wheel and heavy duty clutch while the box was out I replaced the rear main seal all the seals in the transfer case and gear box and sump seals I done this as it was cheaper in the long run as every thing was out on the table. The solid fly wheel removed all clutch shutter and can be refaced in the fucture a duel mass is generaly a throw away item once it been burnt or the face has grooves in it the springs in a duel mass can also play up.

[jimr1]

Hi fella's , Thanks for your replies . Noogie I was also looking at UK. prices , the Valeo kit looks like good value , similar $ to Britpart price wise . I took in rear main oil seal change , so will go down that Rd. as well , I was not thinking gearbox oil seals , so yes as well . It looks like Valeo clutch and flywheel kit , rear spigot bush , rear main , and gearbox seals . I must say the clutch has done well and hasn't gone yet , but It is tiered . I will feel better when It's been renewed . cheers jimr1 .:)

[nedflanders]

Where are you getting the clutch and flywheel from?

[noogie]

Definitely change the rear main seal while the box is out.
Where do you stop?.... Well I'd do all the seals on the box and transfer also. It's an extra hour max for an amateur and it's simple preventative maintenance which you won't appreciate unless you don't do it.;)

yeah. I did my tc seals at the same time.
Much easier when everything is out.

[jimr1]

Where are you getting the clutch and flywheel from?
I was looking on ebay uk. found one 374.99 pound , but no postage cost ships world wide , was going to contact later in the week , If you can help with a supplier I would be grateful Cheers jimr1..

[kelvo]

I used Island 4x4 for my clutch & flywheel Clutch Kit & Flywheel 4in1 Td5 (Valeo) DA2357G Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order. (http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/clutch-flywheel-4in1-valeo-da2357g-p-6639.html) along with eight of these Flywheel Bolt Td5 (Genuine) ERR6581LR Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order. (http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/flywheel-bolt-genuine-err6581lr-p-18119.html) also bought this as well Clutch Bearing (Britpart Heavy Duty) FTC5200HD Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order. (http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/clutch-bearing-britpart-heavy-duty-ftc5200hd-p-4778.html) Postage is not cheap (£240), but the parts aren't light either. Postage cost was for a load of other stuff as well including other heavy things like brake pads, gearbox mounts. The complete order was delivered in two parcels. I think just the clutch & flywheel kit would have been £120 postage, but don't quote me on that.

[mike_beecham]

Hi there,
I certainly second the use of Valeo clutch etc. Valeo are original equipment for Land Rover and as such are a great choice for replacement parts.

Mine has just been done and l am very happy with it. Make sure you have it done by a Land Rover specialist. Defiantely worth having the various input and output seals done on the 5-speed and transfer also.

Would only do the rear main if it is leaking. Otherwise leave it be was the advice from my mechanic (Defender specialist).

Good luck,
Michael

[noogie]

I was looking on ebay uk. found one 374.99 pound , but no postage cost ships world wide , was going to contact later in the week , If you can help with a supplier I would be grateful Cheers jimr1..

Yeah. I got mine from one stop great box shop uk thru ebay uk. Same price and landed for 780. That's everything including all bushes. I got the rear main seal here.

The clutch feels great and the pedal isn't as heavy.
Happy camper.

[Yorkshire_Jon]

AP Racing do a fantastic clutch as used by Alive Tuning on the 180KW TD5 I don;t know if you can get them in Aussie land though - email Alive Tuning and ask them

If you speak to Neale at Rakeway.co.uk he'll sort you out an AP racing clutch plate and matching solid flywheel.

To be honest though if you aren't towing much now and you don't flog the engine then a standard valeo unit will be fine.

Defo do the seals at the same time.

R
J

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[nedflanders]

Back on the hunt for a clutch and it seems like Ashcroft transmissions in the UK can supply the AP clutch for not a lot more than a Valeo, as I tow a lot I'm considering going that route but keep the dual mass, but I need to speak to Ashcroft first as I'm also after a Transfer box extended sump to lower the transmission temps when towing. Cost for the Dual mass is £260 and AP clutch is £105.

[carlosbeldia]

How about noise and vibration from single mass? I'm thinking on going that way, DMF are too expensive and delicated.

[Yorkshire_Jon]

I went for the AP racing clutch and a solid flywheel in the end. I got mine from Rakeway in the UK, they produce the flywheel and also an uprated bearing carrier.

There is a slight knocking / rattling noise at tickover when in neutral and foot off the clutch but it really isn't significant and it disappears completely when you start moving.

I could eat an OEM clutch in 20,000 miles with the loads I used to regularly tow combined with the heavy re-map. This clutch has done 3 times as much work as the previous and shows no signs of wear.

Id thoroughly recommend the mod if you tow frequently and have a remapped car.

The car remains perfectly drivable too. I've had other up-rates clutches in race cars before that are like switches, these are not at all like that.

Hth
Jon

[Cobber]

Definitely change the rear main seal while the box is out.Gotta agree here - it's a tedious job at the best of times on anything, so you would be mad not to while you have the chance. It will take a little more time now, but it will save you a hell of a lot in the long run. It's worth it for the peace of mind alone IMO :cool: