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labrado
16th October 2013, 08:25 PM
Hi fellow owners,
a friend of mine has just bought a disposed army cargo carrier, and she is planning to change oil for the vehicle. Can anyone suggest the right oil for the following parts or point me to any thread which has already given the info.

1. engine oil.
2. gearbox oil.
3. transfer case oil.
4. diff oil.

any more oil?

Many Thanks in advance.:D

Wei

justinc
16th October 2013, 08:27 PM
engine, trans and transfer take 15w40 engine oil, diesel rated, like castrol rx super etc, diffs and swivels ep 80w90 gear oil.

jc

isuzutoo-eh
16th October 2013, 08:31 PM
Rear diff 85-140 gear oil, otherwise as JC said

labrado
16th October 2013, 08:45 PM
engine, trans and transfer take 15w40 engine oil, diesel rated, like castrol rx super etc, diffs and swivels ep 80w90 gear oil.

jc

thank you JC. Trans and transfer can take 15w40 engine oil???:o

labrado
16th October 2013, 08:46 PM
Rear diff 85-140 gear oil, otherwise as JC said

Hi isuzutoo-eh, why the salisbury diff needs a different spec gear oil?

justinc
16th October 2013, 08:49 PM
thank you JC. Trans and transfer can take 15w40 engine oil???:o

certainly, the mil spec is actually castrol fmx .

jc

isuzutoo-eh
16th October 2013, 08:49 PM
The Salisbury generates a lot of heat due to being a low pinion set up. Rover diffs don't have as much sliding between teeth, so don't run as hot.
Yes, engine oil for gearbox and transfer. If you use anything else, be prepared for very expensive repairs.

labrado
16th October 2013, 09:08 PM
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Yes, engine oil for gearbox and transfer. If you use anything else, be prepared for very expensive repairs.
Hi,
I'm quite interested to know the theory behind this statement and do civilian county defenders with LT95 take engine oil for trans and transfer too?

isuzutoo-eh
16th October 2013, 09:16 PM
Hi Labrado,
Yes the civillian LT95 equipped vehicles, be it a 110, 109, 101 or Rangie, all use engine oil, or occasionally ATF. As I understand it, the oil pump uses gears that don't last very long when used with heavier oils as usually specced for gearboxes. I'm happy to admit that i don't have the knowledge of some other members when it comes to oils and gearboxes, but a few have had problems, one 101 owner recently had a gearbox problem that came down to the oil used.
You may do a search in the Isuzu section, the military forward control section, RRC and the Defender sections for more info.

Mick_Marsh
20th November 2013, 04:38 PM
Hi,
I'm quite interested to know the theory behind this statement and do civilian county defenders with LT95 take engine oil for trans and transfer too?
It's not a theory, it's a stated fact.
I've been there as have many others. You can learn from our experience or confirm our findings.
The LT95 transfer case gears are shimmed on the shaft. The thicker oils don't get into the oil grooves of the shims, the shims get hot and burn, melt.
The common fix up is to run a tapered bearing kit through the transfer case. Your friends ex military would more than likely have the tapered bearing kit in it. It may be able to handle gear oil but, will you risk it? Would he risk it?
Let us know what you decide and how you go.

Blknight.aus
20th November 2013, 04:50 PM
Rx super/castrol fmx/omd115 (or pretty much any other 15/40wt engine oil for everything thats upstream of the propshafts. 80/90 for everything downstream

castrol LX or similar grease for all grease nipples and dor 3/4 mineral brake fluid for the clutch and brakes.

anything close enough to diesel for the fuel tanks.

weeds
20th November 2013, 05:20 PM
from memory have a look at the passenger seat box, pretty sure all the oils are listed

labrado
20th November 2013, 10:32 PM
It's not a theory, it's a stated fact.
I've been there as have many others. You can learn from our experience or confirm our findings.
The LT95 transfer case gears are shimmed on the shaft. The thicker oils don't get into the oil grooves of the shims, the shims get hot and burn, melt.
The common fix up is to run a tapered bearing kit through the transfer case. Your friends ex military would more than likely have the tapered bearing kit in it. It may be able to handle gear oil but, will you risk it? Would he risk it?
Let us know what you decide and how you go.

I just forwarded the advices from your guys to my friend. She hasn't got the oil change done yet but I think she's going to follow these advices.:D

labrado
20th November 2013, 10:41 PM
anything close enough to diesel for the fuel tanks.

wd40?:D

Blknight.aus
20th November 2013, 11:07 PM
wd40?:D

yep, (no, im not kidding)

a couple of liters of citronella oil will also help keep the mozzies at bay around the workshop.

303gunner
21st November 2013, 11:26 AM
Rx super/castrol fmx/omd115 (or pretty much any other 15/40wt engine oil for everything thats upstream of the propshafts. 80/90 for everything downstream

castrol LX or similar grease for all grease nipples and dor 3/4 mineral brake fluid for the clutch and brakes.

anything close enough to diesel for the fuel tanks.
And while the original spec for the swivel housings was for engine oil/OMD115, there is an Army EMEI changing the CVs to grease lube (which tend not to leak/seep). Check the vehicle record to see if it has been changed to grease.

Blknight.aus
21st November 2013, 01:46 PM
the spec for the swivel housings is OEP 220 which is an 80/90wt gear oil.

the last 20l drum I ordered using the generic NSN for it got me shell spirax

mattmac
24th October 2015, 05:24 AM
I just did complete oil change on my recently acquired perentie GS-RX Super in Engine/GB/TC- Not sure what oil the army put in the TC but it was like Silver/Grey Colour?

Rx super/castrol fmx/omd115 (or pretty much any other 15/40wt engine oil for everything thats upstream of the propshafts. 80/90 for everything downstream

castrol LX or similar grease for all grease nipples and dor 3/4 mineral brake fluid for the clutch and brakes.

anything close enough to diesel for the fuel tanks.

Blknight.aus
24th October 2015, 08:37 AM
we're now getting penrite diesel FX 15/40wt as the engine oil. and the 80/90 is either castrol, valvoline or pentrite depending on what the system wants to provide.