bikie club houses

[incisor]

from the bikie club house listing in the courier mail


Addresses covered by the new legislation:

• unit 3/7 Lear Jet Drive, Caboolture

i think doug the concreter next door to aulro central might be a bit peeved when he reads this :p

bit hard to fathom to be frank, as the old rebels club house is on the other side of the car park at 5 lear jet ...

i was working on madge last weekend when a few car loads of men in blue rolled up in the car park in bullet proof vests...

and then this thursday some one was sneaking round the carpark taking photos...

i knew the place used to be a red zone but didn't expect this sort of excitement...

interesting times

[V8Ian]

Posties won't be safe leaving or returning to the DCs in groups of three or more. :nazilock:;)

[Stacks]

Im a postie should I be worried? Lol

[V8Ian]

You'll be safe on the left coast. :D

[VladTepes]

Gee how bout that - didnt take the application of this legislation long to get screwed up did it !

[THE BOOGER]

By moving into an x bikie club house doesn't that make him associated with bikies:angel:

[frantic]

As a concreter he only does custom design made to order boots, so he would be classed as a subbie not associate:D

[DiscoMick]

So have they got the wrong address?

[pop058]

So have they got the wrong address?

yes

[Modelsp]

Stacks
You'll be safe if you don't wear your Aust Post Gang Colours.

[richard4u2]

Stacks
You'll be safe if you don't wear your Aust Post Gang Colours.
will the police confiscate the possessions of the Australian government because of their association with this gang

[incisor]

well Doug the concreter just came back from holidays :cool:

and is utterly livid as he has been bombarded with calls, threats and news papers over it. :eek:

his local member is the attorney general :D

just had a little chat with him and i reckon the abc should be getting an interesting call about now ....

definitely not a happy puppy...

[schuy1]

Ahh bureaucracy mixed with politicking and fear mongering media in equel amounts then dispensed into a blue colored jar for distribution !! Nothing like it for massive stuffups, mismanagement and who har! :D
Poor old Doug is lucky they didnt knock his house down to gain entry to a "Fortified Bikie Gang Hideout"!!! :o

[disco 3 door]

I think Vic Police may have egg in their face. One Motorcycle Club in the northern suburbs of Melboune had gates & fences knocked down last week have already replaced fence & gates.

Sent from my GT-N8020 using AULRO mobile app

[incisor]

keep an eye out on lateline on wednesday ....

[VladTepes]

Pertinent to this particular situation is it ?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The retired judge, Justice Tony Fitzgerald who ran the corruption enquiry in Qld has delivered a scathing verdict on the new Qld Legislation. Anti-corruption judge Tony Fitzgerald slams Queensland's 'foolhardy' bikie, sex offender laws - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-28/fitzgerald-critical-of-qld-governments-foolhardy-laws/5048948)

I wouldn't think that is a feather in the cap of Campbell Newman's Government or the Attorney-General Jarrod Bleijie personally.

They are sure to be challenged in the High Court by the bikies.

[DiscoMick]

Bikies are moving to Chindereh in northern NSW, I'm told.

[Treads]

I think Vic Police may have egg in their face. One Motorcycle Club in the northern suburbs of Melboune had gates & fences knocked down last week have already replaced fence & gates.


Tell us more?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Bikies are moving to Chindereh in northern NSW, I'm told.Isn't Campbell Newman taking a page out of Tony Abbott's song book with a turn back the bikes policy. He's going to impose border control. One wonders how that will go with section 117 of the constitution (Rights of Residents in States)?

[UncleHo]

The current Govt. in Qld won by a large majority so Campbell is doing a "Joh" type style govt. remember there are still a few names in the halls of power that go back that far.

By coming down hard on motorcycle club members all he will do is drive them underground and IF they are doing anything illegal it will go underground as well.

[Debacle]

The current Govt. in Qld won by a large majority so Campbell is doing a "Joh" type style govt. remember there are still a few names in the halls of power that go back that far.

By coming down hard on motorcycle club members all he will do is drive them underground and IF they are doing anything illegal it will go underground as well.

While there has been all this hype around bikies etc, not many people realise that there has been bills introduced recently to significantly change what can be put in workplace agreements. They are big changes and I have heard nothing in the media about it.

A smokescreen maybe ?

[bob10]

While there has been all this hype around bikies etc, not many people realise that there has been bills introduced recently to significantly change what can be put in workplace agreements. They are big changes and I have heard nothing in the media about it.

A smokescreen maybe ?

Yes. Bob

[bob10]

The retired judge, Justice Tony Fitzgerald who ran the corruption enquiry in Qld has delivered a scathing verdict on the new Qld Legislation. Anti-corruption judge Tony Fitzgerald slams Queensland's 'foolhardy' bikie, sex offender laws - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-28/fitzgerald-critical-of-qld-governments-foolhardy-laws/5048948)

I wouldn't think that is a feather in the cap of Campbell Newman's Government or the Attorney-General Jarrod Bleijie personally.

They are sure to be challenged in the High Court by the bikies.

Newman has a "sunset " clause in his legislation. Bob

[Treads]

I think Vic Police may have egg in their face. One Motorcycle Club in the northern suburbs of Melboune had gates & fences knocked down last week have already replaced fence & gates.


Still trying to find the egg.... ;)



https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/47.jpg

Police order Hells Angels to strip clubhouse

October 29, 2013 - 6:57PM

Police have made the first application under anti-fortification laws targeting bikie gangs, with the Hells Angels being ordered to strip their Thomastown clubhouse.
Echo Taskforce members slapped a notice on the Lipton Drive clubhouse of the Hells Angels Nomads chapter on Tuesday afternoon, ordering the removal of steel gates, a high fence, a reinforced door and night vision CCTV cameras.
A police spokeswoman confirmed the application and said others would be made under the legislation, which came into law this month.
The Hells Angels will be able to challenge the application during a Melbourne Magistrates Court hearing on November 28.
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The Nomads chapter is considered an enforcement arm of the Hells Angels, and the Thomastown clubhouse has been raided by police several times this year, most recently on October 10.
That raid took place as part of the largest police operation targeting a bikie gang in Victorian history and involved more than 700 officers raiding 60 properties and seizing four guns, about $50,000 cash, drugs and a variety of other weapons and explosives.
On a raid last year, police forced their way into the clubhouse by removing a steel gate with explosives.
Senior gang members are generally given notice by police when a warrant is being executed on a clubhouse before officers force their way in.
Attorney-General Robert Clark said earlier this month that the laws would make it harder for bikies to delay and prevent entry to police.
"If these fortifications can be removed, it will strip a layer of protection that these gangs have," he said.
The laws appear set to be used far more than in South Australia, where police have been criticised for making applications only twice in nine years since similar legislation was introduced.





:twisted:

[LandyAndy]

WA joined the national anti bike steerers club laws today apparently.
Andrew

[disco 3 door]

Fairfield gates & fences demolished, one week later gates & fences up again.

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[loanrangie]

Been a while since i looked but i wonder if the Templestowe house got raided as well, used to go past everyday on my way to school.

[incisor]

and so it begins

Queensland anti-bikie laws target property with no criminal connections, club that does not exist in Australia - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/qld-bikie-laws-target-club-that-is-not-in-australia/5059202)

apparently my shop and van were on qld abc news as well...

i havent seen it myself.. just got a few calls..

[D110V8D]

"That raid took place as part of the largest police operation targeting a bikie gang in Victorian history and involved more than 700 officers raiding 60 properties and seizing four guns, about $50,000 cash, drugs and a variety of other weapons and explosives."

:eek: 700 officers found 4 guns, pocket money and some choof! :D:D:D

[Vern]

Probably cost $1,000,000:(

[bobslandies]

Lots of money already invested in pharmaceuticals and agribusiness, building security and transportation - and they are chasing them out:twisted:

Investing in Queensland | Queensland Government (http://www.business.qld.gov.au/invest?utm_source=NinemsnAU&utm_medium=mediacom&utm_campaign=treasurybusqld)

No doubt some of the carpetbaggers this encourages will be just as bad as the criminal gangs but will be "protected" species.

[DiscoMick]

Now they're raiding the Vietnam Vets Motorcyclists, a club not even on the banned list.



Queensland police raid recreational Vietnam and Veterans Motorcycle Club under anti-bikie laws

By Mark Solomons, National Reporting Team
Updated 52 minutes ago
Video: Recreational motorcycle club targeted for first time under Queensland laws (Lateline) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/queensland-bikie-laws/5059420)
Related Story: Queensland anti-bikie laws 'target club that does not exist in Australia' (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/qld-bikie-laws-target-club-that-is-not-in-australia/5059202)
Related Story: Judge adjourns alleged bikie's bail hearing over Newman comments (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/judge-adjourns-alleged-bikies-bail-application-over-newman-comme/5058222)

Queensland Police have for the first time targeted a recreational motorcycle club as part of the State Government's crackdown on so-called "outlaw" or "one-percenter" clubs.
The ABC can also reveal the state's police are preparing to extend their operations against 26 designated "criminal organisations" by prosecuting members for associating even in other Australian states.
Police plan to use section 12 of the Criminal Code, which covers crimes committed either partially or wholly in Queensland.
Bikie laws 'target club that isn't in Australia' (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/qld-bikie-laws-target-club-that-is-not-in-australia/5059202)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/15.jpg (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/qld-bikie-laws-target-club-that-is-not-in-australia/5059202)


The anti-bikie laws name the Scorpions as a banned "criminal" group.

But experts have told the ABC while the club has several chapters in the US, there is no trace of it being in Australia.

The laws are also targeting a property near Brisbane that has not had any bikie connections for six years.

Read Mark Solomons' report here (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/qld-bikie-laws-target-club-that-is-not-in-australia/5059202).


Senior officers say that if bikies meet in groups of three or more interstate all police need to do is get some recording of it, such as from a security camera at an airport, restaurant or service station, and if the bikies return to Queensland, they can be arrested and face up to three years in jail.
The raid on Friday night targeted the Vietnam and Veterans Motorcycle Club (VVMC) at its clubhouse at Kingston south of Brisbane.
Twenty officers from Road Policing Command and the QPS Taskforce Maxima anti-bikie group raided the club’s regular monthly "Bunker Bash" party.
The VVMC restricts membership to men who fought in Vietnam and ex-servicemen who hold an Active Service Medal.
Most of its members are in their 60s and 70s. The club is not on the list of 26 banned organisations included in the state's anti-bikie laws.
No-one was searched, arrested or cautioned during the raid, according to police. One man agreed to leave the premises in circumstances that are now in dispute.
Police say no-one was asked to leave. But the club's president and other witnesses said "Schultzy", a one-time president of the Life and Death motorcycle club’s Ipswich chapter, left because he was asked to do so by officers.
Do you think police were right to raid the Vietnam and Veterans Motorcycle Club? Tell us your thoughts. (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/queensland-police-raid-veterans-club-under-anti-bikie-laws/5059250#comments)


Under the new laws, licensed premises face fines of tens of thousands of dollars if they are caught serving anyone with visible signs of membership of one of the 26 banned clubs.
The VVMC had placed signs at the club entrance warning guests not to display anything linking them to "a declared criminal organisation".
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/16.jpg (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/vietnam-veterans-club-president-agro-and-meathead/5059294) Photo: Agro (right) with fellow member Meathead at the club's compound (ABC: Lateline) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/vietnam-veterans-club-president-agro-and-meathead/5059294)

ABC journalists who attended the club's compound just hours ahead of the raid witnessed the club asking people arriving about tattoos, rings, belt buckles and patches that might indicate membership of a "one percent" club.
VVMC president "Agro" said police had immediately recognised Schultzy because of his previous connection with Life and Death, which is on the Government's list.
"I said he’s not [a member any more]," Agro said.
"They say they believe he still is, so they asked him politely to leave and he said yes."
Agro told the ABC that the VVMC, established in Australia 25 years ago, had longstanding links and social connections to members of several "one-percenter" clubs including the Rebels, Odins Warriors and Life and Death. All three are on the Government’s banned list.
"We see them, we ride with them, we go on some of their rides with them and they go on some of our rides with us," he said.
"Whatever they do is up to them. We don’t ask them what they get up to when they’re out of here."
In a statement Queensland Police said the raid was "part of a strategy to develop a rapport with legitimate members of the motorcycle riding community in the interest of effective policing".
It said police wanted to ensure "that criminal motorcycle gang members do not attempt to infiltrate legitimate motorcycle clubs such as the Vietnam and Veteran Motorcycle Club".
Australia's outlaw motorcycle gangs (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-04/bikie-gangs-by-colours/4999510)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/17.jpg (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-04/bikie-gangs-by-colours/4999510)

Do you know your Hells Angels from your Rebels? Find out about Australia's major bikie gangs with our explainer. (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-04/bikie-gangs-by-colours/4999510)


Agro denies that could happen to his club.
"I don't think the club could be infiltrated. They know who we are, we all fought for our country," he said.
Many recreational riders have been staying off their bikes since the laws took effect, despite a Government newspaper and radio advertising campaign reassuring them that they have nothing to fear.
At the Maiala Cafe on Mount Glorious in the D'Aguilar Ranges north-west of Brisbane, usually thronged with bikers each weekend, trade is down heavily.
"It’s never been this quiet in the three years I’ve been here," head barista Rhiannon Deacon said on Sunday.
"They're too scared to come up as groups."
Do you know more about this story? Email investigations@abc.net.au (investigations@abc.net.au)

[incisor]

ABC iview (http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/75455467)

there you go...

starts at the 16:00 minute mark

nothing like some free national advertising

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=67855&stc=1&d=1383172327

love how they showed the combat caddy etc while introducing doug's info :twisted:

and the other guy, adam, very diplomatically getting round it and absorbing some air time...

[loanrangie]

"That raid took place as part of the largest police operation targeting a bikie gang in Victorian history and involved more than 700 officers raiding 60 properties and seizing four guns, about $50,000 cash, drugs and a variety of other weapons and explosives."

:eek: 700 officers found 4 guns, pocket money and some choof! :D:D:D

Yeah not enough choof to go around that lot- " pass the doobie to the left hand side ":)

[VladTepes]

Doesn't seem to work that link, Inc ? I even searched that clip number and it comes up blank.....

[Pierre]

Former Army half colonel has his policemen raid VVMC clubhouse.

Is he looking to be fragged? :(

[incisor]

Doesn't seem to work that link, Inc ? I even searched that clip number and it comes up blank.....

still works for me...

[VladTepes]

Must be the work firewall again....

[JohnF]

and so it begins

Queensland anti-bikie laws target property with no criminal connections, club that does not exist in Australia - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/qld-bikie-laws-target-club-that-is-not-in-australia/5059202)

apparently my shop and van were on qld abc news as well...

i havent seen it myself.. just got a few calls..

next thing your shop/van will be a bikie hangout :D

[JohnF]

one local club, unknown name, but not an outlaw club [my son's boss rides with them] the club president was arrested and now is facing time in jail because after the club had cleaners clean the club house, which they do once a month, the police raided it and found a but of a Marijuana cigarette, and a very small plastic bag that had previously held about a half a gram of cocaine. But of course that club president was not the user, but he will be the one who goes to jail if the Queensland government gets their way. That club does not wear patches, etc, just a group of friends who go for a ride together.

[frantic]

"That raid took place as part of the largest police operation targeting a bikie gang in Victorian history and involved more than 700 officers raiding 60 properties and seizing four guns, about $50,000 cash, drugs and a variety of other weapons and explosives."

:eek: 700 officers found 4 guns, pocket money and some choof! :D:D:D
I'm pretty sure if the cops raided ANY 60 homes and industrial units they would find at least $50,000 drugs and guns. To my way of thinking it's a very poor result, less than $1000 per property and only 1 gun per 15 sites,hmmm wonder if they where warned.
If the cops raided 60 consecutive houses in one middle class street they would get a better haul. How many elderly or overseas born people do you know who keep large sums of cash at home? With gun ownership in Oz around 4/100 people and avg. house size 4 people you should net around 10 guns in a raid not 4.:D

[bob10]

Just spoke to my cousin, a patched member of the Vietnam Veterans MC. He's been out of the loop, due to ill health, but is ringing the President to get the story, one thing to remember, the VVMC had to get permission from the 1%'ers to wear the MC patch. Also the 1%'ers visit the VVMC clubhouse often. When my cousin gets back to me, I will pass on the story, Bob

[bobslandies]

I'm pretty sure if the cops raided ANY 60 homes and industrial units they would find at least $50,000 drugs and guns. To my way of thinking it's a very poor result, less than $1000 per property and only 1 gun per 15 sites,hmmm wonder if they where warned.
If the cops raided 60 consecutive houses in one middle class street they would get a better haul. How many elderly or overseas born people do you know who keep large sums of cash at home? With gun ownership in Oz around 4/100 people and avg. house size 4 people you should net around 10 guns in a raid not 4.:D

Well, that's two of us who worked it out.

And if one was cynical try this - these gangs are now so powerful (in their own minds) that maybe they now longer are paying protection (sort of self-insuring) to certain parties who are now miffed and going to teach them a lesson. Remember senior police and political corruption in Qld and NSW, let alone the head of the SA Police Drug Squad in the 80s, recently also a NSW Crime Commission Assistant Director.
Don't forget it was John Howard who abolished the successful National Crime Authority - the pet hate of John Elliott, former President of the Liberal Party. In its place is the Australian Crime Commission that operates less independently.

Still good police trying to do their rotten job though despite the white-anting.

[UncleHo]

Does anybody know the origin of the VVMC patch?





I do.

[mox]

"That raid took place as part of the largest police operation targeting a bikie gang in Victorian history and involved more than 700 officers raiding 60 properties and seizing four guns, about $50,000 cash, drugs and a variety of other weapons and explosives."

:eek: 700 officers found 4 guns, pocket money and some choof! :D:D:D
Would be interesting to know details of the cash, guns, drugs etc allegedly seized, which could be an embarrassment for police who authorised the raids considering the large amount of resources used. , Bloke who has worked for me and has had some involvement in an outlaw motorcycle gang reckoned in the past, apparently police have seized stuff from a clubhouse that they have subsequently had to return when established it was legitimate. Including a large amount of cash - the bar takings from a place where they drink a lot of grog at times. Also they apparently took some target pistols, which it turned out were legitimately registered. Wonder what proportion of the alleged "weapons" are things that lots of people have for various reasons. eg knives in kitchens. Even "explosives " could be just primers and propellant powder that a licensed firearms user who reloads ammunition has.

[THE BOOGER]

Does anybody know the origin of the VVMC patch?





I do.

It was a good movie;)

[Disco Muppet]

It was a good movie;)

Sure was, my old man was one of many in that film :cool:

[mox]

Police officers are not necessarily overall the most law abiding citizens themselves. Pro rata there are apparently more ex cops in jail than people from many other occupational backgrounds. Rather like the sort of thing that seems common, such as a mechanic's car needing lots of repair and maintenance, a plumbers drain being blocked, an accountants own books in a mess etc.

It would be interesting to see what suspect or illegal items would be found if 60 premises where police officers live were raided by another policing organisation who were not their mates. For a start, I am sure almost certainly more than 4 unregistered firearms.

[UncleHo]

Was he one of the " Gravediggers" ?

[Disco Muppet]

Was he one of the " Gravediggers" ?

Nope, one of the funeral procession.

[UncleHo]

I too was in that long convoy down the Sydney/Newcastle expressway,my specialist bike mechanic at Ultimo,Victor Hofmann was the mechanic engaged to paint and maintain the bikes used in the movie,my friend and I cobbled up the 450 Honda (insurance write-off) for the scene where the bike goes over the cliff at Middle Head, to sell that movie in the US the Gravediggers needed to carry weapons hence the rifles in the rifle buckets down the front forks,my friend and I became friends with the film crews and would often go out to locations,as we also knew a lot of the "Gravediggers" aka Hells Angels,as we were also part of the bikers that gathered at Kings Cross most nights,Ooh! The days of Bikes,Booze,and Birds!!!!

A little known fact was that the race scene sound track between Stone's Norton Commando and Toad's Kwaka 9 was re-dubbed at Victor's shop using a Triumph Trophy on his rolling road, we all got invited to the Premier at the
State theatre in George St.


They were fun days,I met my now wife during that time she was the only girl that I knew that could sleep while riding pillion on my then current BMW,and I was the only bloke amongst us that would take out a girl with a young daughter from a broken marriage,now the young daughter is 40,married and my wife is now referred to as "The Management" we still have the Beemer in storage,will get it out one day as it is now a Vintage Bike.


cheers.




BTW. The pub in the movie was the Forth & Clyde at Glebe from memory.

[Chucaro]

Just wonder if the video it is genuine from the anonymous group ?

Message to Campbell Newman From ANONYMOUS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70Iqb7v89Vg)

[incisor]

arthur the bigger worry is the other side effects imho
Bikie laws may send businesses broke (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/bikie-laws-may-send-businesses-broke-20131103-2wuwf.html)

i might ad that doug the concreter and i have both had a serious drop in phone esquires since his address went public and my signage was splashed all over the abc coverage of it....

hopefully it will blow over in a couple of weeks

[incisor]

Anonymous video posted by Brisbane man Daniel Walker (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/anonymous-video-posted-by-brisbane-man-daniel-walker-20131104-2wwdp.html)

[Chucaro]

arthur the bigger worry is the other side effects imho
Bikie laws may send businesses broke (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/bikie-laws-may-send-businesses-broke-20131103-2wuwf.html)

i might ad that doug the concreter and i have both had a serious drop in phone esquires since his address went public and my signage was splashed all over the abc coverage of it....

hopefully it will blow over in a couple of weeks

That news are shocking! no wonder some people spit the dummy and go bush instead of work hard and loose or the fruit of their labour
for bad policies !!