fitting hard top to perentie

[mattmac]

I just purchased a perentie with canvas top and think I'd prefer to fit a hard top-anyone done that and know where to find one?

[isuzutoo-eh]

A Series roof won't match the top of the windscreen. Civillian hard tops are very rare in this country.
Perhaps a 5 door wagon roof, with Series hardtop sides and upper tailgate, would fit. Is yours an FFR? If so you'll need to remove the rear transom and fit a tailgate, or door.
If you don't want to muck around with wreckers, I suspect your best bet is to import from the UK.

[weeds]

you had want to get in quick finding all the bits as i reckon there will be more owners get sick of the canvass and want to upgade

[Landy Smurf]

I would be looking at this option too and as weeds said you better be quick as prices and availability will change very quick

[juddy]

Landybitz are looking at bring in the Wolf hard tops, might even have our own mould, we have a 110 hard top kit coming for a client in a few months.

[jackz]

If you want to go Ute type hard top, the defender / 110 roof will fit with either a series or defender cab back. The defender one is the pick with better windows and allows seats to go back further. You will need to remove the 2 angled mount on the front of the tubes that the toolbar fits into on the body capping, as well as the soft top clamping strip above the windscreen. If you want a full length hard top, I believe series hard top sides can be fitted if they are relieved to fit around the mounting point for the rollbar brace, or the mount removed if you don't wish to keep the soft top option for summer.

[juddy]

You will also need a new rear door for the GS. The FFR and others might cause problems with the rear body work.

We have looked at Tithonus hard tops very good but very few about. We will be gradbing the next ones that do come up.

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[isuzutoo-eh]

Juddy do you know if the Tithonus hard tops will fit with the local ROPS?

[juddy]

Good question . But you can get the rops from safety devices if not

[Cgwy]

Has anybody been able to fit a hard top on a soft top perentie?
I have sourced a hard top and body from an older model land rover. What modifications would need to be done if any?

[goanna_shire]

Hi,
I have done it to mine. It was a 2 door survey hard top but I bought the 5 door body off ebay (V8 incomplete vehicle) and swapped them over. A chap in Sydney was more than happy to but the 2 door hard top body. Series bodies won't fit properly without fiddling but a 110 body of any sort mounts up fairly easily. Troubles plumbing the fuel tank up if going for the 4 door body and you will have to source the intermediate body mounts as the 2 door soft top is esentially a van without a roof and the sill panel doesn't go further back than the front door and uses different mounting points on the chassis.
Any hard top 2 door bits will fit straight on but you may be limited to fitting the 4 door body for the hard top option as was said about availability.

Cheers,
Brian

[Cgwy]

I have located this old Landy at a scrap metal yard. (see attachment if it works)

Would anybody know if this roof would fit on a standard cargo Perentie?

Cheers Chris

[DirtyDog]

I'm no expert by a long shot but from the research I've done you need to remove roll bars and remove roll bar mounting points that are welded in or modify hardtop to fit around these. The other option is swapping out the whole side panel... Someone may be able to correct me if I'm wrong about any of this... Also not sure how that hardtop will mount to top of windscreen and doors ect???

[LandroverScott]

I have located this old Landy at a scrap metal yard. (see attachment if it works)

Would anybody know if this roof would fit on a standard cargo Perentie?

Cheers Chris

Hi,

Unfortunately no it wont fit.

This is a Series 109" canopy, so 1" too short but biggest issue is the windscreen, the 110 has a higher windscreen compared to a Series windscreen and just wont work.

There is also the issue as previously stated that the roll bars need removing etc - I'd be keeping them (actually I am on the two perenties I own) - Saftey first.

If you get a hard top of a civy 110 or defender that will fit, alll you need to do is take the rope clamp off the top of the windscreen (and the roll bars).

Hope this helps

regards
Scott

[Bearman]

I have located this old Landy at a scrap metal yard. (see attachment if it works)

Would anybody know if this roof would fit on a standard cargo Perentie?

Cheers Chris

I know that a S3 roof and sides will fit as long as you change the windscreen and frame as well. It means you have to remove the 110 windscreen and fit the Series one which will bolt straight up to the roof, and as mentioned remove the roll bars. The 1" difference is in the wheelbase not the body.

[Cgwy]

Thanks guys. Very useful

Cheers
Chris

[87County]

I know that a S3 roof and sides will fit as long as you change the windscreen and frame as well. It means you have to remove the 110 windscreen and fit the Series one which will bolt straight up to the roof, and as mentioned remove the roll bars. The 1" difference is in the wheelbase not the body.

but won't the 110 windscreen wipers foul on the S3 windscreen frame centre section?

[Bearman]

but won't the 110 windscreen wipers foul on the S3 windscreen frame centre section?

Good question and to be honest I can't remember what the bloke did with the wipers. It was back in the late 80's when I saw it done. The County had a roll and was fitted with the series bits as no 110 bits were available second hand.

[LandroverScott]

This is the hardtop you need

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[uninformed]

does anyone know how different the wheel guards/arches are from a SIII lwb tub to a 110 lwb tub? (both 2 door hard top of coarse)

I take it the tubs are the same width etc?

[87County]

does anyone know how different the wheel guards/arches are from a SIII lwb tub to a 110 lwb tub? (both 2 door hard top of coarse)

I take it the tubs are the same width etc?



On the tub the wheel arch is wrong for 110" as opposed to 109" and needs modification which can be a simple as cutting away but it'll look a bit agricultural. The 109" tub will also need flares.

It's all a whole lot simpler to use the 110" pretendie tub that it comes with (or buy one) than try to modify a 109" to fit.

[uninformed]

On the tub the wheel arch is wrong for 110" as opposed to 109" and needs modification which can be a simple as cutting away but it'll look a bit agricultural. The 109" tub will also need flares.

It's all a whole lot simpler to use the 110" pretendie tub that it comes with (or buy one) than try to modify a 109" to fit.

I figure a lot easier to get hold of a 109 tub than a 110 tub?

In my case (I have a 110 trayback), if I can make it happen, I would be modifying rear over hang (shorter) and possibly longer doors.

If I cut the arch to suit, will a flare cover that "agricultural" look?

[LandroverScott]

I figure a lot easier to get hold of a 109 tub than a 110 tub?

In my case (I have a 110 trayback), if I can make it happen, I would be modifying rear over hang (shorter) and possibly longer doors.

If I cut the arch to suit, will a flare cover that "agricultural" look?

So you have a perentie or not??

If you cut a 109 tub you will not have the folded in edge to boltthe eyebrows onto.

I'd suggest you have a close inspection of one then have a good think about how it will work

good luck

[uninformed]

So you have a perentie or not??

If you cut a 109 tub you will not have the folded in edge to boltthe eyebrows onto.

I'd suggest you have a close inspection of one then have a good think about how it will work

good luck

No, a 110 trayback, but I figure there some very close similarities in this thread regarding the use of a 109 tub.

If there is more material around the 109 arch that has to be cut, there is no reason a new folded edge can not be made. At worst aluminium angle could be used.

[87County]

No, a 110 trayback, but I figure there some very close similarities in this thread regarding the use of a 109 tub.

If there is more material around the 109 arch that has to be cut, there is no reason a new folded edge can not be made. At worst aluminium angle could be used.

Obviously, this discussion deviation (convert trayback to tub) would have been better under its own heading to avoid misunderstandings.

HI UNinfromed,

Keep in mind that many tub-backed LRs have been converted to tray-backs because lots of users would prefer a tray to a tub.

You will be up for a lot of two person work including at least undoing, and probably removing and replacing, the roof, (to remove the rear cab wall), if you want to convert to a tub. The tub is even better handled with 3 people.

And then there is the problem of aligning the tub and doors....

IMHO a 109 tub is never going to look right on a 110 unless you do some skilled panel work around the wheel arches (just cutting through the corners of the 109 tubs's "toolbox" lockers will be a headache that anyone can do without).

That is why I previously suggested getting a 110 tub from somewhere (even one of these perentie wrecks that they're selling).

Also a lot (maybe all) of 109 tubs and ex mil 110 tubs will have the fuel filler behind the drivers' door.

Where is your fuel filler now (?) and have you thought about how you will fit a replacement in the tub and what you will do about the 109 fuel filler assembly?

All in all - it would substantially simpler to sell your tray back and buy a perentie & fit a ute cab if you must (by removing the ROPS fittings)

You can even extend it ! Cab Extension Kit | UK Land Rover Experts (http://foleysv.com/parts/cab-extension-kit)

There's plenty of perentie style 110s for everybody you know, and you even end up with the fabled 4BD1 engine! (which seems to be highly regarded in this section of the forum :D )

Hope this helps you make a decision :)

[uninformed]

Obviously, this discussion deviation (convert trayback to tub) would have been better under its own heading to avoid misunderstandings.

HI UNinfromed,

Keep in mind that many tub-backed LRs have been converted to tray-backs because lots of users would prefer a tray to a tub.

You will be up for a lot of two person work including at least undoing, and probably removing and replacing, the roof, (to remove the rear cab wall), if you want to convert to a tub. The tub is even better handled with 3 people.

And then there is the problem of aligning the tub and doors....

IMHO a 109 tub is never going to look right on a 110 unless you do some skilled panel work around the wheel arches (just cutting through the corners of the 109 tubs's "toolbox" lockers will be a headache that anyone can do without).

That is why I previously suggested getting a 110 tub from somewhere (even one of these perentie wrecks that they're selling).

Also a lot (maybe all) of 109 tubs and ex mil 110 tubs will have the fuel filler behind the drivers' door.

Where is your fuel filler now (?) and have you thought about how you will fit a replacement in the tub and what you will do about the 109 fuel filler assembly?

All in all - it would substantially simpler to sell your tray back and buy a perentie & fit a ute cab if you must (by removing the ROPS fittings)

You can even extend it ! Cab Extension Kit | UK Land Rover Experts (http://foleysv.com/parts/cab-extension-kit)

There's plenty of perentie style 110s for everybody you know, and you even end up with the fabled 4BD1 engine! (which seems to be highly regarded in this section of the forum :D )

Hope this helps you make a decision :)

If I had the money to just buy a truck already built how I want it, why would I be asking....

And If I sell my tray back I loose all my mods like laminated and full MD front end, full MD rear sals, 49% low range t/case with hyd pto, hyd winch, custom tube bar and sliders I made etc etc etc.. yes I could keep them, but then id be selling parts of a vehicle and what would I drive in the mean time???

Plenty of 110 tubs you say, funny I look on ebay and gumtree all the time and dont see to many come up. Yes wreckers like BOR, TRS have them, but it would be cheaper to buy a whole vehicle than what they want :o

Oh and maybe I already have a line on a good 109 tub ;)

Hard work I can handle, spare cash to pay someone else I dont

[fcnutter]

:D hi there,

I fitted a single cab off a defender 300 TDI and didn't have too much trouble. Sourcing it though could be a problem and you may get a shock at the price. I got quoted $1,800 for a station wagon turret and sides without back door. Luckily I found one on the back road to nimbin in NSW. They are around you just gotta know where to look. Good luck...:cool: