I NOW LIKE THE 130 DEFENDER.

[voltron]

Just a curious irrelavent post.

When I bought my new 110, there was a Keswick Green 130 coming in that they had offered me, but I told them I don't really like the look of them. Now after owning mine for about 3 months every time I see a 130, especially in Keswick green with white roof, I think they look great and wonder if I made the right decision in buying a 110. The tray solves a few issues I have with Wagon and kitted up nicely they look great.

Anyone else had this epiphany or was I just mad from the start.

Cheers.

[synthium]

I have a dual cab 130 and love it. I think it looks great and drives great! However I think it's normal to want other models - probably why so many people here have multiple land rovers or have owned multiple. The size of the 130 is awesome but sometimes I think a 90 or even 110 would have been more practical! Basically I think regardless of what model u got u probably will end up thinking "what if?".

[Leroy_Riding]

I always think I should have gotten a 110 single cab or 130 dual cab. but in the end I am still happy with the little 90.

Leroy

[rijidij]

This wont help with your decision, but it will show you how good a 130 can look, especially in the green.
This one was at the Expo in Sydney in September.

I really like the Keswick Green, I would even consider painting my future 120 project the same colour.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/202.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Landys/Green-130_zps9384ece9.jpg.html)

[mark_coffey]

I had an 85 county, lovely truck! packed to the roof line and a few camping trips before the engine loom burnt out, replaced with a 130, the only thing I missed was the front of cab leg room, couldnt go back to the 110, wouldnt fit a 90!

[LowRanger]

I solved that problem,by getting a 130 dual cab to go with my 110 wagon:DAlthough they are both in Land Rover white:cool:

[voltron]

I saw a 130 very similar to that Murray which is probably why I started changin my tune. The first one I saw was retro looking with the old white steel wheels and didn't really do it for me.

Lowranger that thought crossed my mind also but then, my wife jumped into the thought and smashed it in the face. It was nice while it lasted.:(

Cheers

[voltron]

I had an 85 county, lovely truck! packed to the roof line and a few camping trips before the engine loom burnt out, replaced with a 130, the only thing I missed was the front of cab leg room, couldnt go back to the 110, wouldnt fit a 90!

Do they have less leg room??

[Cammo]

Murray, that truck looks ridiculously familiar, I just don't recognize the plates...

[wally]

It's probably why I've had a single cab 110, 110 wagon, single cab 130, and a few crew cab 130s. Each one's good in different circumstances and stages of life but if you need the seats and the space, you obviously can't go past a crew cab 130. They're not very car park friendly though.

[TonyC]

Do they have less leg room??

Hi Volton,
Pre Puma Defenders have under dash air con, that seriously compromises the leg room for the front seat passenger.
Pre Defender 110's and presumably 90's and Puma Defenders have proper integrated air con.

Tony

[voltron]

It's probably why I've had a single cab 110, 110 wagon, single cab 130, and a few crew cab 130s. Each one's good in different circumstances and stages of life but if you need the seats and the space, you obviously can't go past a crew cab 130. They're not very car park friendly though.

Wally.

Could you state what were the pro's and cons of each. If it's not too much to ask.

Cheers

[newhue]

Voltron, your no alone, over half the good folk I camp with regularly wished they had a 130 instead of their 110's. They love there accessorised 110, but can see the advantage of space and utility of a 130. Tray backs preferred over the style side. It's more about practicality than looks. With touring families, and also daily requirements of a growing family you need space.

as for car park friendly, just revers park, no problems.

[NT5224]

<Just a curious irrelavent post>

Yeah but that's what makes this forum fun!

Voltron, I get where you're coming from. I thought long and hard about getting a 130 , but in the end went with a 110. I needed payload and off road performance, so selected a 110 HCPU optioned for heavy duty. With a lower kerb weight than the 130 its rated to a slightly higher payload. And of course the tray is longer.

Because of where I live I needed really good off road performance and thought the longer wheelbase would compromise that.

At first I thought the 130's rather ugly but to be honest I now really like the look of them, they're so distinctive and unique. Although I'd never trade Hector I'm forced to admit my views on the 130 have completely changed and I'm not sure if I'd make the same decision again.

Go the 130s!

Cheers

Alan

[rijidij]

130's look good with portal axles, but then so does a 110.........so many things on the wish list and so little $$$$ to play with.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/184.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Landys/130-Portals_zps5fdfdad3.jpg.html)

[voltron]

Hi Volton,
Pre Puma Defenders have under dash air con, that seriously compromises the leg room for the front seat passenger.
Pre Defender 110's and presumably 90's and Puma Defenders have proper integrated air con.

Tony

I'm learning something new every day.

Cheers

[voltron]

Voltron, your no alone, over half the good folk I camp with regularly wished they had a 130 instead of their 110's. They love there accessorised 110, but can see the advantage of space and utility of a 130. Tray backs preferred over the style side. It's more about practicality than looks. With touring families, and also daily requirements of a growing family you need space.

as for car park friendly, just revers park, no problems.

I think what you stated is the whole reason my view has changed. Once you start using it, onlt then you start to see the advantages of alot of things for eg. When I saw the gullwing windows and the cost, I thought that was a ridiculous price for a window that opens outwards but once I started using the car and camping, it all came together and then you see all the benefits the 130 has that you didnt see before. Then guys do them up really well and it just rubs salt into the wounds.

[voltron]

Voltron, your no alone, over half the good folk I camp with regularly wished they had a 130 instead of their 110's. They love there accessorised 110, but can see the advantage of space and utility of a 130. Tray backs preferred over the style side. It's more about practicality than looks. With touring families, and also daily requirements of a growing family you need space.

as for car park friendly, just revers park, no problems.

I think what you stated is the whole reason my view has changed. Once you start using it, only then you begin to see the advantages of alot of things for eg. When I saw the gullwing windows and the cost, I thought that was a ridiculous price for a window that opens outwards but once I started using the car and camping, it all came together and then you see all the benefits the 130 has that you didnt see before.

Then guys do them up really well and it just rubs salt into the wounds, like what murray is doing.

[voltron]

<Just a curious irrelavent post>

Yeah but that's what makes this forum fun!

Voltron, I get where you're coming from. I thought long and hard about getting a 130 , but in the end went with a 110. I needed payload and off road performance, so selected a 110 HCPU optioned for heavy duty. With a lower kerb weight than the 130 its rated to a slightly higher payload. And of course the tray is longer.

Because of where I live I needed really good off road performance and thought the longer wheelbase would compromise that.

At first I thought the 130's rather ugly but to be honest I now really like the look of them, they're so distinctive and unique. Although I'd never trade Hector I'm forced to admit my views on the 130 have completely changed and I'm not sure if I'd make the same decision again.

Go the 130s!

Cheers

Alan


Exactly!:clap2:

[debruiser]

I'll stick with my 90 thanks.... but I definately agree on the keswick /w white!! I want to paint my next series project that colour, but have to convince the wife first

[debruiser]

130's look good with portal axles, but then so does a 110.........so many things on the wish list and so little $$$$ to play with.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/184.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Landys/130-Portals_zps5fdfdad3.jpg.html)

can I do that to my 90? nice.....

[Don 130]

I love my 130. It must be the best allround tourer there is. It does everything except go very very fast.
Don

[newhue]

Voltron, no sham in saying you got it wrong. If your thinking is for a long term keeper, and most of us Defender drivers are, better the change now rather than latter. The cost will only increase.

I was having a rush of blood and was considering trading in my 130 for a new one since mine had come to it end of warranty. I looked at all the stuff that had to come off, or be replaced, and concluded the ol 130 is fine for my needs even without warranty. Bit different to you, but accessorising new rides is something you only want to pay for once if you can.

[rijidij]

can I do that to my 90? nice.....

You can do anything with $$$$$$$$...............:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/180.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/Landys/Defender_90_Portals_zps4d06ecf7.jpg.html)

[nugge t]

Feel your pain mate. When I bought the 110 it was literally a toss of the coin between the 110 and the 130. After 18 months I knew the coin had landed the wrong way and I have now changed to a 130.

As much as I loved the 110, it was just a bit short for what I really wanted to do and the 130 solves that. :D

[PTC]

I was originally looking at a 06 and beyond Hilux. My specs that i required was a ute that could hold 5 people and been good offroad.

I went though all the normal utes before i remembered about the Defender. Coil sprung all around, comefy to drive (I know im crazy) and great fuel effiency. And first off i saw the 110 ute. And dismissed it as being too small. When i found the 130 i knew it would be perfect. I am setting it up so i can keep everything inside the car for my long adventurers. No need for a roofrack and the extra drag that it creates.

As the canopy i have in the car was custom made. Years down the track i have the option to get a whole new set up for the car if i need it. Might even look into a slid off camper.

So many options with the 130. I just have to treat it right and running well and should last a long time.

[wally]

Wally.

Could you state what were the pro's and cons of each. If it's not too much to ask.

Cheers

For me it was like this: My first Defender was a trayback 110. It suited me perfectly at the time. We didn't have any kids and only needed two seats. Also, living in central Australia at the time and going bush a lot, the trayback (with steel / canvas canopy fitted) was perfect. It didn't take long, however, before the missus started to complain about the lack of legroom on the passenger side (Tdi with aircon in footwell). To get around that problem, eventually I found an ex-govt crew cab 130 at auction. The passenger seat is able to go back further so legroom is not a problem. I wanted to keep on going bush and touring etc and I like a dropside tray / canopy setup so I replaced the hicap tub with a steel tray, built a canopy, and put a bit of effort into setting it up. It was great and I should have hung onto it for a lot longer. Eventually the other half started to complain that she wouldn't drive it anymore because it was too hard to park (so her complaint, not mine, although admittedly not much rear vision with canopy fitted). That lead eventually to a 110 wagon because we had started a family and needed the seats but the 110's easier to handle around town. Then we bought a farm and needed a ute again, so a single cab 130 was found at a farm clearing sale auction. All the while I had decided that a crew cab 130 is the best, most versatile passenger and load carrying and touring vehicle there is, and I missed having one, and I want to do some bush trips with the family so I bought one again. That's six Defenders in total - most of the time I've had two at once, it did get up to three for a while, now back down to two. The body style just depends on where you live, what you expect it to be able to do, how many seats you need, etc. Everyone's situation is different. The crew cab does almost everything I need it to do but not quite, and that's why I still have my single cab 130 as well for the time being.

[LowRanger]

I feel the pain https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/176.jpg

:D:D:D:D

[rar110]

This wont help with your decision, but it will show you how good a 130 can look, especially in the green. This one was at the Expo in Sydney in September. I really like the Keswick Green, I would even consider painting my future 120 project the same colour. Cheers, Murray

Wow that looks great. Lots of $ spent there.

[wally]

I feel the pain https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/176.jpg

:D:D:D:D

Crikey, that looks like my place.

[LowRanger]

Crikey, that looks like my place.

Hahaha that was a few months ago,am back to just the 110 wagon and the 130 crew cab,and a couple of cars.A man has to have his toys,keeps him broke and at home at night :D

[Ranga]

I'm another who started with a 110, and realised that a 130 would suit my needs better. However, I still think the 110 has that iconic LR look about it! I miss the turning circle of the 110 (who woulda thunk it?!), and the ability to quickly throw things in the back and have them secured, but other than that, love the versatility of the 130.

Mind you, I try not to get too attached to inanimate objects, as it clouds the judgement IMHO.

[86mud]

All you 110 owners eventually realise that the extra 20 inches makes all the difference :D

[VladTepes]

There can be no doubt that the 130 is THE Defender to have !

[2stroke]

All you 110 owners eventually realise that the extra 20 inches makes all the difference :D
Sounds like bragging to me, ;) after all it's really 17 inches.:p

[voltron]

There can be no doubt that the 130 is THE Defender to have !

Im afraid to say it but I think your right. Maybe I might aim to get one of the last in 2015 as that is really the only angle I could possibly use to upgrade to a new defender and mine will be out of warranty as well.


Thanks for the input guys.

[VladTepes]

I'll never be able to afford a new Defender (have to buy a house first) so I'll just stick with the BEST 130's built - Tdi !!!!

[voltron]

I'll never be able to afford a new Defender (have to buy a house first) so I'll just stick with the BEST 130's built - Tdi !!!!

I guess that could also be an option for me as well.

[newhue]

Have wondered that a bit myself if I had to do it all again. Pour 25K into a 10K Tdi to make it all smick, or go the Tdci again.
I appreciate some of the refinements of a Tdci, but when you get 2 Tdi's for one Tdci, or 3 if your puma is on lease perhaps it's not such a bad idea.