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d2dave
31st October 2013, 10:08 PM
I have been having a look at Vicroads website in relation to Victoria's club rego scheme. This is a quote from this site.
"Victorian club permit vehicles may be considered to be unlicensed in some Australian States or Territories therefore will not be able to be driven on their roads."
Does anyone here know which states and territories allow what in relation to club reg?
MR LR
31st October 2013, 10:15 PM
On the national Veteran rallies, cars from all over the country and even overseas drive on their club permit, in all states. There haven't been any issues in the Veteran cirlces, which is where the club plates came from originally.
It is a historic scheme so the car has to be over a certain age, 30 in NSW, think it's a bit less in Vic.
Mick_Marsh
31st October 2013, 10:19 PM
I think the permits aren't recognised in WA.
I'll do a little research to confirm.
Here in Vic., we have a poorly known and understood road safety regulation.
Exemption for vehicles temporarily in Victoria
131. Exemption for vehicles temporarily in Victoria
A vehicle is exempt from the requirement to be registered if-
(a) the vehicle is in Victoria temporarily; and
(b) the vehicle is-
(i) registered in another State, a Territory or a foreign country; or
(ii) permitted to be used in accordance with a law in force in another
State or a Territory relating to the use of unregistered vehicles
(including a law relating to trade plates); and
(c) the vehicle is carrying, conspicuously displayed in the required way
and condition, all number plates and labels that it is at that time
required to carry-
(i) for a vehicle registered outside Victoria, in the State, Territory or
country in which it is registered under the law of that State,
Territory or country; or
(ii) for an unregistered vehicle permitted to be used in another State or a
Territory, in that State or Territory under the law of that State or
Territory; and
(d) for an unregistered vehicle permitted to be used in another State or a
Territory, the vehicle is being used in accordance with any conditions
of any permit or other authority that apply in that State or
Territory, to the extent they are capable of being applied to the use
of the vehicle outside that State or Territory.
I wonder if other states have a similar rule.
If anyone knows, could you please post up a link to the relevant state legislation.
Mick_Marsh
31st October 2013, 10:30 PM
Found this:
AIS/Defect Notice Section
21 Murray Road South
Welshpool WA 6106
Telephone (08) 9351 1670
20 January 2007
Council of Motoring Clubs of WA
PO Box 742
SUBIACO WA 6904
The Secretary
Thank you for your inquiry requesting information on WA recognition of concessional licences in any other State or Territory of the Commonwealth.
I confirm that vehicles registered in any other State or Territory of the Commonwealth licensed under a Historic Conditional Registration Scheme can be driven in Western Australia without any need for a permit or any other special arrangements. This is provided for under the WA Road Traffic Act 1974 Part III Licensing of vehicles, part 15, which states:
15. Vehicle licences
(6) For the purposes of the provisions of this section a vehicle licence or equivalent document issued in any other State or Territory of the Commonwealth for a vehicle of which the owner is not ordinarily resident within the State of Western Australia shall, during the currency of the licence, be deemed to be a vehicle licence under this Act in respect of the vehicle when used on any road within the State of Western Australia.
Essentially, this is because the vehicle is actually registered, and not just being driven on a permit. Please note that registration plates and labels are required to be affixed, and it is helpful if the owner carried the registration papers with them.
If you have any questions or need any further information please contact me on (08) 9351 1671, or email adrian.odea@dpi.wa.gov.au.
Yours sincerely
Adrian O’Dea
Acting Co-ordinator
Yes. It is old. The important bit is in the wording. "Registration".
The Victorian system is not "registration". It is a "permit".
Have a look here (http://www.aomc.asn.au/cpsnewfaq.htm). Question 9.
Narangga
31st October 2013, 10:44 PM
Have looked through the Act and two sets of Regulations and have not found anything so far regarding interstaters.
For the NT, this refers to the club registration scheme:
http://transport.nt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/19696/ibr02.pdf
And these are the Guidelines for clubs:
http://transport.nt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/19697/clubguidelines_001.pdf
Will look further tomorrow.
Tusker
1st November 2013, 07:59 AM
Club permits are club permits. If your club has an interstate trip, this sort of issue will be sorted out beforehand.
Regards
Max P
d2dave
1st November 2013, 08:11 AM
Club permits are club permits. If your club has an interstate trip, this sort of issue will be sorted out beforehand.
Regards
Max P
Max. In Vic you can drive the vehicle any time you like, up to 90 days in a years. It does not have to be a club trip.
The reason for my OP was that I often holiday on the Vic/NSW border and I plan to purchase a series and use it for my holiday on club rego.
Mick_Marsh
1st November 2013, 09:01 AM
Club permits are club permits. If your club has an interstate trip, this sort of issue will be sorted out beforehand.
Regards
Max P
The club my 101 has a permit with is a different marque of vehicle. They would never attend an AULRO promoted event such as Corowa.
Our permits are valid for 45 or 90 days wether it is a club event or not
Our permits are, we're told by the AOMC, valid in every state or territory except WA (but who in their right mind wants to go there).
MR LR
1st November 2013, 09:13 AM
Max. In Vic you can drive the vehicle any time you like, up to 90 days in a years. It does not have to be a club trip.
The reason for my OP was that I often holiday on the Vic/NSW border and I plan to purchase a series and use it for my holiday on club rego.
There'll be no issue with that :)
101RRS
1st November 2013, 10:40 AM
They would never attend an AULRO organised event such as Corowa.
Mick,
What AULRO event is held at Corowa - I know of the Swim -In each year run by the Khaki Vehicle Enthusiasts Incorporated but nothing from AULRO - have I missed something?
Garry
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