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Chucaro
2nd November 2013, 06:25 PM
Looking in the net (yes no much to do) for building homes or shacks using shipping containers I have come across THIS PAGE (http://earthsci.org/index.html).
Among the photos of the construction of the building HERE (http://earthsci.org/education/fieldsk/container/container.html) is a photo HERE (http://earthsci.org/education/fieldsk/container/38_shade_shed01.jpg)

Pleas let me know if you know him you never know, I am looking for a project.
Cheers
Arthur

Hoges
2nd November 2013, 07:27 PM
Huh! you found my fantasy page :D Have been trying to convince SWMBO that this is a MUCH better approach to minimalist downsizing than an apartment/unit whatever. AND 2 x 40' hicubes siamised makes a perfect workshop!!

Chucaro
2nd November 2013, 07:36 PM
Huh! you found my fantasy page :D Have been trying to convince SWMBO that this is a MUCH better approach to minimalist downsizing than an apartment/unit whatever. AND 2 x 40' hicubes siamised makes a perfect workshop!!

As an old fox with more than 45 years in marriage I suggest to you to show her the sweet part :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/11/1604.jpg

Didge
2nd November 2013, 10:59 PM
Famed Australian architect Glenn Murcutt coined the phrase "touch the earth lightly" with the intent that if you remove a dwelling or structure it would only take nature a very short time to return it to its former glory, rather than indulging in huge amounts of excavation and desecration of the landscape that accompanies so many "project homes"
:)

bob10
3rd November 2013, 05:43 PM
That is a very good theory, if you touch the Earth in an area where there are no fires, floods, cyclones. I suggest, Bob

Chucaro
3rd November 2013, 05:59 PM
That is a very good theory, if you touch the Earth in an area where there are no fires, floods, cyclones. I suggest, Bob

Secure a container by welding an 250mm steam pipe in each corner buried in concrete at 2 m deep and showing no more that 1 m above the surface and if the container it is gone because a cyclone your town including your house will be flat on the ground as well. ;)
Also because their surfaces are made of Corten Steel (about 6,000 lbs of it), they can resist 110 mph wind-borne debris, making them impact resistant.
Try and impact of debri at 180 kph in a timber, fibro or colorbond cladding home and let me know.

bob10
3rd November 2013, 06:37 PM
Secure a container by welding an 250mm steam pipe in each corner buried in concrete at 2 m deep and showing no more that 1 m above the surface and if the container it is gone because a cyclone your town including your house will be flat on the ground as well. ;)
Also because their surfaces are made of Corten Steel (about 6,000 lbs of it), they can resist 110 mph wind-borne debris, making them impact resistant.
Try and impact of debri at 180 kph in a timber, fibro or colorbond cladding home and let me know.

Well, my point was , if in the correct position, they may have merit. But, fire? Flood? [ usually comes with cyclones. ] From the photo in the link, it seems to be suggesting a nice spot right amongst nature, trees all around. First of all, could you get permission to erect these in normal council controlled areas. 2nd, could you insure them. How much insulation is needed to make them comfortable? In a savage bushfire, I suggest they would make efficient ovens. If the same insurance rules applied to them , as to normal houses, I guess you could take your chances, along with them. Interesting concept, I have a container in my back yard I use as a workshop/ storeroom. Gets as hot as hell in summer. Perhaps a couple of windows etc, But I'm not convinced. Bob

Chucaro
3rd November 2013, 07:00 PM
Well I guess that you have to do some research about insulation for your container.
I used to have one in my farm and painted it with the insulation paint that it is used for motorhomes roofs.
When the sun was severe and unable to touch steel in another structures I was able to rest my hand on the inside surface of the container without any problem.
If also you spray on them Super ThermĀ® you will be able to block heat by 99.5%. It also meets ASTM E90
Of course ventilation will be improve it further more.
There are other container thermal liners like Envirotuff.
If you add to that a decorative cladding it will be more insulated that any standard home.

bikeman
3rd November 2013, 07:52 PM
Hi, I had an opportunity to build a container house on a mates property a few years ago. We used 2x 20 foot containers set 20 feet apart, these were to become the bedrooms. These were separated by a space of 20 feet, a deck was built at one end, this was full width x 20 feet. A pitched gable colourbond roof was built over the entire floor/deck space. This was insulated with roof blanket leaving an air space over the containers. This worked extremely well. A vent was built into the gable ends to allow an air flow over the containers. This is a simplified version of the design. The possibilities are limited by imagination. cheers, Phil

bikeman
3rd November 2013, 07:57 PM
I must add that permission was applied for...... online, the problem was the lack of sufficient provider coverage.

Didge
3rd November 2013, 09:36 PM
That is a very good theory, if you touch the Earth in an area where there are no fires, floods, cyclones. I suggest, Bob
You could still build a strong structural steel, timber or concrete building that just uses piers and suspended floors and totally minimises excavation so that if the concrete piers in the ground were ground back to below natural ground level, it would take nature very little time for vegetation to grow back and cover the piers

Chops
3rd November 2013, 10:33 PM
Bob, for your workshop, put a false roof over it, either in corrugated iron or even just shade cloth. You'll find it'll help immensely. It doesn't need to be as elaborate as Phil ( Bikeman) has described, but it will work very well.

They are using old containers at the Vic Markets now. They look very good.

disco 3 door
6th November 2013, 09:39 AM
Just ise old reefer containers minus the fridges.

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Chucaro
6th November 2013, 09:53 AM
HERE (http://www.constructionsales.com.au/buy/details.aspx?_N=1711+1552+1602+1601+4294957215+429 4912269&R=15905006) is an example of a 40 f refrigerated container
Also there are available SS refrigerated containers (http://www.constructionsales.com.au/buy/details.aspx?_N=1711+1552+1602+1601+4294957215+429 4912269&R=15910188) with the unit in working order for $12000

*RR*
6th November 2013, 08:32 PM
HERE (http://www.constructionsales.com.au/buy/details.aspx?_N=1711+1552+1602+1601+4294957215+429 4912269&R=15905006) is an example of a 40 f refrigerated container
Also there are available SS refrigerated containers (http://www.constructionsales.com.au/buy/details.aspx?_N=1711+1552+1602+1601+4294957215+429 4912269&R=15910188) with the unit in working order for $12000

Reefers generally stink though! I don't think you'd want to live in one... you can get freezer levels of cold though!

Chucaro
6th November 2013, 08:57 PM
Reefers generally stink though! I don't think you'd want to live in one... you can get freezer levels of cold though!

Without the unit they are very good to store the farm chemicals. I would not use them as a shell for the shack I prefer the plain containers, sandblasting them and fit them out according to my needs.

bob10
7th November 2013, 07:56 PM
I'm warming to the concept, if I spend any more money on my D2, I may have to live in my container, Bob :)