What Makes a Classic 4wd??

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Hi Guys Just wondering what makes a Classic a classic?

I know an FJ Crusier, 40,45,47 and CJ jeeps, CJ5, CJ7 and Also Land Rovers Series 1,2,2A,3

And OF COURSE an LJ Suzuki LJ 50, LJ80, LJ81:cool:

But what makes them a Classic? :confused:


Would a Suzuki sierra be a classic in 30-40 years time? :confused:

Thanks Guys!

[digger]

I reckon this would go a fair way towards it....


http://www.classiclse.com/105-thickbox/range-rover-classic-badge-rare.jpg

[MBZ460]

FJ Cruiser (Prado) a classic?

[pop058]

FJ Cruiser (Prado) a classic?

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[Grumbles]

I thought he was referring to the older FJ series circa 1970s or there abouts.

[redrovertdi]

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[woody]

I thought he was referring to the older FJ series circa 1970s or there abouts.

The type that Roothy is in love with.

woody

[goingbush]

In my book anything with plastic on it is not a Classic, (and by defenition RRC is not a Classic.)

[MBZ460]

I guess a definition of a old classic 4wd (as opposed to a modern classic 4wd) is that its old (including some historic significance) has an enthusiastic following and some unique/desirable features.

[isuzutoo-eh]

It's a classic if its older than the person talking about it :D

[incisor]

clearly lacking any scientifically sourced integrated components

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Yes I was talking about the older style ones

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/1kUAAOxy6MBSQSA6/$T2eC16Z,!yQFIjV4vqBjBSQS!6K!t!~~48_20.JPG

http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/plugins/PostviaEmail/images/1983_Toyota_Land_Cruiser_FJ45_Troopie_resize.jpg

:)

[Saitch]

To me, Toyota wise, this was my Classic on D/Island Point '84.
1982 SWB LX 6 seater, factory aircon, 3 x wipers, discs all round.
Also had roller boat rack & after market air adjust shockies (illegal now I'm lead to believe) with the air valve in the rear bar.
How Toyota can claim that the new FJ Prado 'Cruiser looks anything like the original is a load of crud IMO!
Sorry about photo quality but it's stuck to the album (remember them) page & was threatening to tear which would lead to domestic hell, so had to scan through the plastic cover.
Steve

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Also a classic has to be desirable and worth something?

Like an EH Holden or XY Falcon..but not a Morris Marina or a Holden Sunbird?:confused::confused:

What makes some collectible and sought after and others just an old car???:confused::confused:

[discovery39]

There are people who would find a Morris Marina and a Sunbird desirable.
To them those cars would be Classics, but to the Majority, not so.
Therefore, popularity would make them a classic or not..........(by definition)

[Davo]

It's a classic if its older than the person talking about it :D

No, it's a classic if you can't get decent insurance for it. :D

[jerryd]

Also a classic has to be desirable and worth something?

Like an EH Holden or XY Falcon..but not a Morris Marina or a Holden Sunbird?:confused::confused:

What makes some collectible and sought after and others just an old car???:confused::confused:

Mine's number 95 of 95 so it must be a classic ;)

[PAT303]

In my book anything with plastic on it is not a Classic, (and by defenition RRC is not a Classic.)

What,the first 2 door RRC's,the '72-'74 models in particular aren't classic's?,bull****. Pat

[bob10]

The first of the breed, Series 1 [ or perhaps the elusive centre steer], T model Ford, FJ Holden, WW2 Jeep, Blitz truck...... along those lines. Bob


Almost forgot, series 111 stage 1 V8 Land Rover.

[rangietragic]

There are only really four imo,any series landrover,the fj toyotas,the early jeeps and the rrc.Anything else is really only a later copy/variation of the theme.You could maybe include the ww2 vw 4wd schwimwagen,good luck finding one of those.[at the end of the war germany was forbidden to have a navy,and as the schwimwagen was amphibious and had nav lights,ie a warship,most were destroyed:mad:]

[2stroke]

Surely a Rangie classic is a classic... And a Haflinger, Pinzgauer, Volvo Sugga. LJ Suzuki too, though mine's in no way original it turns heads and starts conversations...

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Good point 2 stroke!..wounder how long until my suzuki LJ81 is a classic:confused::p

[2stroke]

Good point 2 stroke!..wounder how long until my suzuki LJ81 is a classic:confused::p
I suppose iy already is, though most comments I get are due to the 2stroke engine.

[discovery39]

If Land Rover made a badge saying it was/is a classic, then it must be.........:cool:

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Yes but what exactly defines a classic..to just an old car???:confused:

[discovery39]

Yes but what exactly defines a classic..to just an old car???:confused:

Dunno, maybe something that gets built exactly the same for more than fifteen years straight........
Unlike 90% of cars built these days.

[chopper]

Lada Niva 1977 onward

[PAT303]

Yes but what exactly defines a classic..to just an old car???:confused:

RRC,the reason is it made it's own segment by rewriting the book on FWD vehicles and we would not have any of the vehicles we have today without it.The only vehicle I can think of that has done that. Pat

[dullbird]

I think for a car to be a classic

it would have to be no longer made in its then current form and it has to be desirable.....

I also think that in some classics it would sport something that made it ground breaking/special at the time of its release...

thats why the rangie is a classic more so than the D1 I think...the rangie was ground breaking in its off road ability/comfort.

someone said it has to be worth something..but personally believe they are not worth anything until people start to want them.

[2stroke]

Lada Niva 1977 onward
Funny, I was thinking the same thing, a vehicle doesn't even need to have been particularly good in its day to become a classic these days. You've also got early Broncos, Scouts, Austin Gypsy, Champ. Honda Scamp, P76. Back in the '80s you couldn't give away an EJ or HD Holden, I had a split screen Kombi that cost $800, a '58 Beetle with 36000 original KM I bought for $550. A fair price for them in the day, but now that people seem to want them...

[Kev the Fridgy]

Funny, I was thinking the same thing, a vehicle doesn't even need to have been particularly good in its day to become a classic these days. You've also got early Broncos, Scouts, Austin Gypsy, Champ. Honda Scamp, P76. Back in the '80s you couldn't give away an EJ or HD Holden, I had a split screen Kombi that cost $800, a '58 Beetle with 36000 original KM I bought for $550. A fair price for them in the day, but now that people seem to want them...



X2... If the current asking prices of some vehicles are a guide there a re a lot more classics than we think, I had a VH Charger in the early eighties, bought for less than 2 grand and was over priced then but it did have factory fitted 265 and 4 speed and no other options, all standard trim ect, try to find a decent charger these days and you would think they were the best car ever made, ridiculous what people are asking for them but then what the people will pay dictates the market I guess.

[Firefish]

I think for a car to be a classic

it would have to be no longer made in its then current form and it has to be desirable.....

I also think that in some classics it would sport something that made it ground breaking/special at the time of its release...

thats why the rangie is a classic more so than the D1 I think...the rangie was ground breaking in its off road ability/comfort.

someone said it has to be worth something..but personally believe they are not worth anything until people start to want them.

Agree. And desirability is reflected in the prices people ask or pay for cars with classic status. Carpoint currently has a 2003 Range Rover listed with asking price of $17,000, and a 1976 Range Rover listed at $18,990. Objectively it would be very difficult to argue that a 1976 Rangie is "worth" more than a much more recent model, but mix in the emotion attached to a "classic" and perhaps it makes sense. Across quite a number of car manufacturers, models made in the 1960s and 1970's are worth far more than those made 20 years later - a sure sign that these early models are being viewed as classics (or at least collectables) by enthusiasts.

[Bob Harding]

A mid sized portion of nostalgia

And a few fond memorys make

A excellent start to come collectable

[rangietragic]

Imo a "classic"4wd has to have made a signficant impact on 4wding in its time,not just be old.The series did,rangies did,fj tojo's did,and jeeps did.This does not mean any "classic" car was a good one.Read a story by a guy who always wanted a gtho phase three,till he drove one.Great power but handled and stopped like a bag of you know what!!

[Jojo]

Hi Guys Just wondering what makes a Classic a classic?



The Green Oval (or especially the Black one with silvery lettering), of course!!!

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Cheers guys:)