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TheTree
6th November 2013, 10:57 AM
Hi

Thinking about heat, Paddocks, Rimmers and others such as Demon Tweaks sell these fans for Range Rover fitment.

Demon Tweaks even have a "universal" fitting kit

Kenlowe Fan Swivel Mount Kit - Demon Tweeks (http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/fans-fan-kits/kenlowe-fan-swivel-mount-kit)

Although not a cheap option these would be a great addition IMO

I added a Craig-Davies fan to my series 1 rover v8 conversion years ago and it was excellent.

Steve

TheTree
6th November 2013, 05:11 PM
Hi

I see Davies, Craig have a 16" in fan with an airflow of 2120 CFM, which is only slightly less than the 17" Kenlowe at 2207 CFM.

DCSL16 INCH FAN KIT (12 VOLT) PART No: 0066 (http://www.daviescraig.com.au/Thermatic_Fans-DCSL16_INCH_FAN_KIT__12_VOLT___PART_No__0066-details.aspx)

They both say you can save around 8.5% on your fuel bill, they cool the engine better in slow traffic and of course they run after the engine is switched off as well :cool:

The Davies Craig is around the $200.00 mark, I think I will email them and ask if anyone has ever fitted one to a P38

Steve

Keithy P38
6th November 2013, 05:48 PM
It's not hard to set up - I run twin Davies Craig fans on my Torana.

Another relay, some wires and trigger off your temp outlet.

The hard part is the bracketry, and making sure you can override it when you want.

Cheers
Keithy

davidsonsm
6th November 2013, 09:17 PM
Excuse my ignorance on this matter but wouldn't it be easier to use the air con fans and have a manual override switch to activate them as suggested elsewhere. Or is the fan you're referring to, something else altogether?

davidsonsm
6th November 2013, 09:24 PM
Just read about them and their intent. Isn't one concern with the p38, the under bonnet temp and the harm that temp does to ancillary stuff.

Doesn't the belt driven fan help with the ambient temp under the bonnet?

TheTree
6th November 2013, 09:31 PM
Hi,

The electric fan is actually better because it will keep running after the engine is switched off and cool the engine bay.

You remove the manual fan completely, this is where the fuel savings come from since all fans are pretty irrelevant above about 50kph where the Ram effect takes over.

Regards
Steve

Keithy P38
6th November 2013, 10:55 PM
Agreed.

Best fuel saving initiative out there! They rob a few ponies those belt driven fans!

TheTree
7th November 2013, 06:46 AM
Hi

Another thing is that I would imagine that at 1500 RPM in low range the electric fan would provide much better cooling than the belt driven one

Steve

davidsonsm
7th November 2013, 10:29 AM
Paddocks have them at GBP135 at present. Order 3 and share the shipping?

I'll get a quote.

TheTree
7th November 2013, 11:03 AM
Hi

I emailed Davies-Craig about their 16" fan as well

Steve

TheTree
7th November 2013, 11:04 AM
Paddocks have them at GBP135 at present. Order 3 and share the shipping?

I'll get a quote.

Mate

Check if that includes the fitting kit. Demon Tweaks have them with the kit included but they are £200.00 plus freight

Steve

wanglemoose
10th November 2013, 11:56 AM
i tried a spal 3500cfm electric fan on mine and had it completely shrouded as well and it was not as good as the std engine driven fan. after lots of r&d in my mates shop we have found the flex-a-lite engine driven fans to be the best suited step in cooling. we have had heaps of different cars in complaining of overheating, most running thermo fans, changing to these fixes it every time. these are what you need for the p38, retain original shroud and remove viscus fan and hub.

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/flx-1518

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/flx-851

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/flx-14548/overview/

benji
10th November 2013, 09:20 PM
So changing to a fixed fan... nothing wrong with that - worked great in dad's 77.

I wonder if the thermo fan kicks in at a too higher temperature then. I do like the thermo fan design though, with the ring around it.

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Traco
12th November 2013, 06:07 PM
I use Ford Falcon EL V8 twin thermo fans with integral shroud to cool my Disco, and AU twin thermos on my 4.6 SD1. Easy to fit, massive cfm and cheap at $90 each from the local Ford wreckers. You need to trim the plastic shroud slightly but they fit like a glove on those two vehicles (EL fans are slightly bigger and have more blades). Run much cooler than they ever did with mechanical fans.

mtb_gary
12th November 2013, 07:32 PM
I use Ford Falcon EL V8 twin thermo fans with integral shroud to cool my Disco, and AU twin thermos on my 4.6 SD1. Easy to fit, massive cfm and cheap at $90 each from the local Ford wreckers. You need to trim the plastic shroud slightly but they fit like a glove on those two vehicles (EL fans are slightly bigger and have more blades). Run much cooler than they ever did with mechanical fans.

Thanks Traco, It looks like I've just bought myself a set off Gumtree (twin 8 blades with shroud)- I pick them up tomorrow for $20. I figure at $20 it's worth a try ;).

Gary

FANTOM P38
13th November 2013, 08:11 PM
i tried a spal 3500cfm electric fan on mine and had it completely shrouded as well and it was not as good as the std engine driven fan. after lots of r&d in my mates shop we have found the flex-a-lite engine driven fans to be the best suited step in cooling. we have had heaps of different cars in complaining of overheating, most running thermo fans, changing to these fixes it every time. these are what you need for the p38, retain original shroud and remove viscus fan and hub.

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/flx-1518

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/flx-851

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/flx-14548/overview/

Would these flexible fans be at risk of hitting radiator during water crossings??

TheTree
13th November 2013, 09:04 PM
Hi

It seems there are a couple of options, I will await the outcome of the falcon fans with interest

Steve

wanglemoose
17th November 2013, 08:41 PM
Would these flexible fans be at risk of hitting radiator during water crossings??

with the spacer the fan is still a fair way from the radiator. the back of the fan just protrudes from the rear of the shroud and the fan blades are roughly 1&1/2" from the leading to trailing edge (thickness)

benji
18th November 2013, 05:56 AM
It wouldn't be hard to rig up a switch to turns them off.

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rc42
19th November 2013, 08:59 AM
I ran a fixed fan on my 4.6 for a short time, it had an overheating event and one of the problems was a faulty viscous coupling which wasn't stiffening up with temperature.
Anyway, while I was waiting for a new one to be shipped from the UK I took the old one off and drilled several holes straight through it and put some small bolts through to permanently lock it.

The cooling was great but it noticeably sapped engine power at high revs and made a hell of a noise, it also kicked up lots of dry dust and dirt from under the car, even at low speed.

Its running great now with the new viscous coupling and new fan, no temperature issues at all. I did put an extra temperature sensor into the hose from the top of the engine to the top of the radiator as I prefer to have multiple sources of information to avoid a repeat of the overheating as the blocks will only recover from a couple.

TheTree
19th November 2013, 09:11 AM
Hi

A timely reminder to check the viscous fan coupling at every service!!

Steve