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Grappler
12th November 2013, 09:12 PM
I wonder why the local council puts up signs to ban camping.

The picture of what some campers leave behind may give a clue.

A few spoil it for all.

Will be going past tomorrow with a shovel and a bag, as its on the way to my favorite surfspot

Roverlord off road spares
12th November 2013, 09:37 PM
That is the action of a minority that will get the majority wild and call for more areas to get banned. Their stuffing it up for themselves and others, if these yobbos can bring the grog in then they should be able to take it away with them.:mad:

debruiser
12th November 2013, 09:38 PM
That makes me angry! Good on you for cleaning up someone elses mess!

Ovadahill
12th November 2013, 09:49 PM
Well done on picking up someone elses garbage. If you bring it in take it out

AnD3rew
12th November 2013, 10:45 PM
This really :censored: me off as well, the last time I was in Sundown National park, we had a lovely spot by a billabong and the sure was littered with dirty nappies and broken beer bottles.

I don't get why people who would seek out beautiful unspoilt campsites would then go and leave them like that. I just don't get that mentality. It doesn't take much to put it in a bag and take it out with you.

mikehzz
12th November 2013, 11:32 PM
That picture is actually a "midden". People have been doing that for thousands of years, it's only the content that varies. If we leave it undisturbed for a few hundred years it will become a valuable archeaological site....


mid·den *(mdn)
n.
1. A dunghill or refuse heap.
2. Archaeology A mound or deposit containing shells, animal bones, and other refuse that indicates the site of a human settlement. Also called kitchen midden.
[Middle English midding, of Scandinavian origin.]

:wasntme:

3toes
13th November 2013, 05:12 AM
Not sure from the photo, were they camping or just sitting about at night then wandered off once the fun was over?

BMKal
13th November 2013, 08:54 AM
Yes it makes me wild as well. :censored:

We recently stopped in at a nice little picnic area in Tassie overlooking a small lake. Nice grassed area, established (and free) barby's for anyone to use and a few picnic tables.

What do we find left on the seat of one of the picnic tables - dirty disposable nappy.

These feral pigs don't deserve to be let out of the sty that they live in. :2up:

POD
13th November 2013, 09:19 AM
I'm not convinced that the pigs are the minority. Everywhere we go we find similar, or worse.

Tank
13th November 2013, 09:22 AM
I'm afraid we that consider ourselves as responsible campers (and 4Wder's) are in the minority.
After speaking with Park workers and Rangers and my observations (not just in camping areas, but access trails also) there seems to more and more yobbo's out there, one instance was about the increasing amount of unburied turds and toilet paper. A Park worker pointed out that they regularly find piles of turds on the floors of the drop toilets that they maintain, with that sort of mentality out there it won't be long before Parks are closed, got me worried, Regards Frank.

TheTree
13th November 2013, 09:41 AM
That picture is actually a "midden". People have been doing that for thousands of years, it's only the content that varies. If we leave it undisturbed for a few hundred years it will become a valuable archeaological site....


mid·den *(mdn)
n.
1. A dunghill or refuse heap.
2. Archaeology A mound or deposit containing shells, animal bones, and other refuse that indicates the site of a human settlement. Also called kitchen midden.
[Middle English midding, of Scandinavian origin.]

:wasntme:

We saw something similar on Stockton beach and decided it was a "Bogan Midden" :p

Steve

bob10
13th November 2013, 09:50 AM
When we go camping, we make room for one of these, Bob

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strangy
13th November 2013, 10:42 AM
Unfortunately in my experience it is more than a few.
Also the sign isn't a Policeman it's just a sign and the pigs who defile our campsites have no care what a sign displays and trying to deal with them is futile in our "tolerant" society.

Grappler
13th November 2013, 01:28 PM
Not sure from the photo, were they camping or just sitting about at night then wandered off once the fun was over?

Its a favorite overnight spot for the Wicked hire van crew

mikehzz
13th November 2013, 03:14 PM
We saw something similar on Stockton beach and decided it was a "Bogan Midden" :p

Steve

It's a little funny that they have closed access to parts of Stockton to protect the Aboriginal middens. In effect they are protecting rubbish heaps :)

Homestar
13th November 2013, 09:45 PM
At $100 each, that's almost cheaper than some caravan parks charge during peak season...:D

rb30gtr
14th November 2013, 10:10 AM
So sad to see, but that's why they are banning camping everywhere.

I was leading a drive through Zig Zag (Actually the day we met the D3/D4/RRS drive day crew) and had a few tag along suzuki's who joined that we didn't know. I saw a glance in my mirror of something being flung out of one of the trailing cars, I stopped everyone, got out and walked back to search in the bush, found the energy can drink that had been thrown and chucked it back into the car.
Was maybe a 21yr old kid as a passenger, and when I flung it back in his car his response was, "ohh what ulair it's just rubish no one gives a sh^t bro"

What else can be done?
Sorry to say it seems to be mostly younger guys, and that is hard to say as I am 30 and most of the guys I 4x4 with are in their late 20's.