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crawal
25th November 2013, 08:07 PM
Some one was telling me the cheap way is to buy a vehicle from the UK and import it here.
Car Sales has such a vehicle - good value for a HSE 
2008 Land Rover Discovery 3 Series 3 HSE 08MY Sports Automatic (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-2008/SSE-AD-2482043/?Cr=0&sdmvc=1)
Has any one done this or looked at the costings ?
simoncs
25th November 2013, 08:57 PM
You have  to own the vehicle in  the UK for at least a year before shipping.  Otherwise the import duties will negate any cost saving. You also need to convert the speedo, and have a vehicle inspection to meet aus standards. There are a bunch of other costs involved, which I can't remember off hand.
rb30gtr
26th November 2013, 08:09 AM
We used to import cars from Japan under the 15 year rule, before it was swiftly changed to the 30 yr rule which it sits at now. Based on the age of the vehicle and requirements to get them into the country and registered.
I bought in a few Nissan R32 GTR's, 89 to 91 models that were 15 years old. 4 grand a pop import tax and about 1500 to get them on the road. They were still 20 grand cheaper than a local model.
You can import vehicles and get them complied via SEVS (if they are in the database), but adding the ridiculous import tax and cost to get it registered including changing some items to meet ADR it really isn't worth it.
The really cheap and efficient way, and you can get past most of the registration requirements is by owning a car over there for a year and bringing it in as your Personal import. I know a few guys that will keep cars stored with family and bring them over in a years time, you can save 10's of thousands of dollars.
Psimpson7
26th November 2013, 08:22 AM
I know a few guys that will keep cars stored with family and bring them over in a years time, you can save 10's of thousands of dollars.
This isn't allowed I believe. Also I am not convinced it would work. When I brought mine over under the scheme I had to prove I was in the country with the car, and that it was legally in use for the full 12 months prior.
Photocopies of every page of my passport for instance, along with insurance documents etc on the car.
Simply buying a car and storing it for 12 months will not meet the requirements.
101RRS
26th November 2013, 09:29 AM
As mentioned, you also have to prove residence and vehicle use during the 12 months - so no you cannot buy the vehicle and park it up.
Garry
rb30gtr
26th November 2013, 11:08 AM
This isn't allowed I believe. Also I am not convinced it would work. When I brought mine over under the scheme I had to prove I was in the country with the car, and that it was legally in use for the full 12 months prior.
Photocopies of every page of my passport for instance, along with insurance documents etc on the car.
Simply buying a car and storing it for 12 months will not meet the requirements.
You are right. But if your Dad lives in the UK and is bringing a car back and you happen to be the driver, it seems to work fine.
101RRS
26th November 2013, 11:54 AM
Only if Daddy is emigrating.
rb30gtr
26th November 2013, 02:56 PM
Only if Daddy is emigrating.
Or travelling for work.
rufusking
26th November 2013, 03:22 PM
The really cheap and efficient way, and you can get past most of the registration requirements is by owning a car over there for a year and bringing it in as your Personal import. I know a few guys that will keep cars stored with family and bring them over in a years time, you can save 10's of thousands of dollars.
I looked at doing this while I was in the UK for a few years. The FX was closer to 45p to the dollar and could only make it work if I exported the vehicle within one year of buying it new to avoid the VAT and have it land in AU when it was older than one year (I think I've got that right) which ment if fell into a lower import category. Even then it was marginal and not worth the effort to have a non AU delivery vehicle with it's issues, I.e. Wrong sat. Nav. ADR speedometer in miles etc.
If it was for  a vehicle I couldn't get here and wanted I might have gone down that road but wasn't worth the hassle.
rb30gtr
26th November 2013, 03:30 PM
I looked at doing this while I was in the UK for a few years. The FX was closer to 45p to the dollar and could only make it work if I exported the vehicle within one year of buying it new to avoid the VAT and have it land in AU when it was older than one year (I think I've got that right) which ment if fell into a lower import category. Even then it was marginal and not worth the effort to have a non AU delivery vehicle with it's issues, I.e. Wrong sat. Nav. ADR speedometer in miles etc.
If it was for  a vehicle I couldn't get here and wanted I might have gone down that road but wasn't worth the hassle.
Yeah I see your point. I have only heard from 2nd parties who have done the personal import thing from the UK. It would be interesting to find out exactly how it works. They do pay a tiny fraction of what we do for cars, high end cars anyway.
But if you want a cheap import, get a 30yr old car from Japan!
101RRS
26th November 2013, 03:32 PM
Or travelling for work.
Hmmm no as Daddy would have to take the vehicle back with him when he leaves - there is is huge bond that travellers have to pay when they bring the vehicle in and if they leave and do not take the vehicle then that bond is lost.
Get Daddy to take out citizenship and all is good. :).
Garry
rb30gtr
26th November 2013, 03:44 PM
Hmmm no as Daddy would have to take the vehicle back with him when he leaves - there is is huge bond that travellers have to pay when they bring the vehicle in and if they leave and do not take the vehicle then that bond is lost.
Get Daddy to take out citizenship and all is good. :).
Garry
Ahh bless the dual citizenship. Although what happens when such incidents happens as most recent in the cricket...what side do you get on. The winning one of course!
Redback
26th November 2013, 03:58 PM
Some one was telling me the cheap way is to buy a vehicle from the UK and import it here.
Car Sales has such a vehicle - good value for a HSE 
2008 Land Rover Discovery 3 Series 3 HSE 08MY Sports Automatic (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-2008/SSE-AD-2482043/?Cr=0&sdmvc=1)
Has any one done this or looked at the costings ?
Buy that one, all the work has been done, cars already here.
Besides, local car of the same spec would be around the same price once all the shipping and other costs are added, not to mention all the bull**** you have to go through.
Baz.
Marmoset
26th November 2013, 10:06 PM
There's also the consideration of how rusted all the bolts will be on a UK car.  I lost count of the number of times that I was doing a job over the weekend and needed more hacksaw blades to get rid of a few awkward bolts, usually just after closing time!
Mike_S
26th November 2013, 10:16 PM
This isn't allowed I believe. Also I am not convinced it would work. When I brought mine over under the scheme I had to prove I was in the country with the car, and that it was legally in use for the full 12 months prior.
Photocopies of every page of my passport for instance, along with insurance documents etc on the car.
Simply buying a car and storing it for 12 months will not meet the requirements.
This ^^^^^
I brought my RRS over a little under 2 years ago, but I've owned it for nearly 5 years now so met all the criteria. No changes are needed to the car to meet aus rules, Land Rovers are one of the very few European cars that need no additional modifications to meet the relevant standards (much to the annoyance of the engineers who need to sign off the paperwork).
I'd do it again, the paperwork isn't that much of a hassle. It's the import duties that are annoying when you've owned a car for so long, along with the scam that is port side steam cleaning. Don't get me started on that :mad::mad:
rb30gtr
27th November 2013, 09:35 AM
This ^^^^^
I'd do it again, the paperwork isn't that much of a hassle. It's the import duties that are annoying when you've owned a car for so long, along with the scam that is port side steam cleaning. Don't get me started on that :mad::mad:
Don't get me started on the port guys.
We had wheels, steering wheels, gauges, body kits, inter-coolers and all sorts stolen off some of the cars when we bought them in from Japan.
A few guys in QLD were tracked down and um err reported to the police as they were selling the parts on Ebay.
My car had the GTR Mats, steering wheel, boost guage and rear strut brace pinched.
101RRS
27th November 2013, 10:10 AM
Don't get me started on the port guys.
When I brought my Jag in, it had the burgular alarm stolen.  They had to deliberately go looking for it at it was well up under the dash and not visible at all.
I know it was taken when on the wharf at Pyrmont in Sydney as part of its security features was the car would not start if removed and the car was driven to its spot on the wharf.
I had to pick up the car at Pyrmont and drive it across Sydney to Botany to have it steam cleaned for quarantine :eek: and it would not start.  Connect wiring back to standard and I was able to drive it dropping quarantinable pests all over the roads of Sydney:eek:.
timdo1
28th November 2013, 07:45 PM
anybody looked at Sth Africa. I think they drive on the same side and they are a big landrover country. Emissions should be the same
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