View Full Version : Big bucks for old bangers.
V8Ian
4th December 2013, 02:39 PM
The $3.2m truck (http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/the-32m-truck-20131203-2yoe1.html)
What say you Jerry and Pedro?
Either of you?
loanrangie
4th December 2013, 03:29 PM
Not an old banger , a one off custom transporter.
Bigbjorn
4th December 2013, 04:11 PM
Not an old banger , a one off custom transporter.
Without the Ecurie Ecosse provenance it is just another old banger. Lucky for the vendor there was an eccentric American millionaire who wanted it to cart his C & D types around.
V8Ian
4th December 2013, 06:41 PM
Not an old banger , a one off custom transporter.
It's still an old banger, albeit a beautiful sounding TS3, AKA a knocker.
jerryd
4th December 2013, 11:48 PM
A bit of useless info for you :) This Transporter would have only been seen at Le Mans from 1960 - 1962. It came about as after Ecurie Ecosse's 1st and 2nd at Le Mans in 1957, the membership of their Association increased dramatically. One of the supporters was Ronnie Alexander who was a director of the famous W Alexander & Son bus and coach body building company. With the help of the Scottish Rootes group agent, British Aluminium, Dunlop and many others, the project got off the ground. Designed by Alexander's Selby Howgate [himself and enthusiastic Bentley driver] the first appearance was at Chatterhall in late May 1960. The distinctive upper level swoop was supposed to represent the most streamlined thing in nature - "a fish" according to Howgate. Though it reminds me of a typical Alexander design trait in that all the coach bodies from 1930's through to the 1960's had a similar shape, but upside down, for their front corner roof drain channels. The idea was that water would drip from the front corner and not over passengers entering the front door of the coach.
Personally I think if you can afford nearly ten million dollars to buy two old jags :D, then $3.2 million on an "art deco" transporter is a snip, just for the sound of that diesel two stroke ;)
Driving a Commer 2 Stroke Knocker TS3 - YouTube
On another note Ian, did you see that programme on tv last week that showed some guy in America who had 55 split screen vw's in his back yard :eek:
Pedro_The_Swift
5th December 2013, 06:27 AM
noice!
jerryd
5th December 2013, 06:37 AM
Some nice machinery in there :)
Bonhams : The December Sale HighlightsThe Ecurie Ecosse Collection sells for £8.8million (http://www.bonhams.com/video/15260/)
Bigbjorn
5th December 2013, 07:09 AM
It's still an old banger, albeit a beautiful sounding TS3, AKA a knocker.
I know about knockers. Wall and Co. had eight of them all told. Good eight tonner but not a prime mover by any stretch of the imagination. We did put a single axle trailer on one. This, or a two axle dog trailer were the limits of a knockers performance. People did pull bogie trailers with them on line haul but to my mind this was straining the friendship They were, after all, only 145 horsepower. I reckon a Detroit two stroke sounded better. Their time was gone by the mid-sixties. I don't recall when production and sale finished. I think around 1973 by which time they were an underpowered anachronism.
Bigbjorn
5th December 2013, 08:14 AM
Personally I think if you can afford nearly ten million dollars to buy two old jags :D, then $3.2 million on an "art deco" transporter is a snip, just for the sound of that diesel two stroke ;)
You really have to attend some of the high end auctions in the USA to appreciate just how much money is around over there. I have spectated at Pebble Beach (nothing under a million from memory), Amelia Island (some cheapies here $145,000), Miller-Offenhauser Society at Milwaukee where a Miller 91 engine out of the shed and complete but probably not run in 75 years fetched $250,000 as is and a magnificent front drive Miller 91 car brought rapid bidding up to $3,250,000 and was considered a bargain. The curator of the Packard Museum in Dayton told me they have a standing offer from a collector for two of their cars of $2,500,000 each if they don't send them to auction.
Bearman
5th December 2013, 07:02 PM
Talking about old bangers!
V8Ian
5th December 2013, 08:54 PM
What are you going to do with that Brian? It's a bit bigger than an Isuzu. :D
Bearman
5th December 2013, 09:14 PM
No, not mine Ian:D, that's out at Winton in the transport heritage museum. Bit of history out there. Might be a little heavy for the 110 front springs:eek:
Here's a few others you might be interested in.
V8Ian
5th December 2013, 09:45 PM
Great pictures, thanks Brian; I didn't know there was a transport museum in Winton, but I have been known to waste a bit of time at Ilfracombe. :angel:
The Foden looks ex-Highway Haulage, the Gillott family created a lot history in many facets of road transport.
V8Ian
5th December 2013, 09:50 PM
This might interest you Brian.
HCVC Vintage Truck Forum - Index (http://www.hcvc.com.au/forum/YaBB.pl)
Bearman
5th December 2013, 10:06 PM
Great pictures, thanks Brian; I didn't know there was a transport museum in Winton, but I have been known to waste a bit of time at Ilfracombe. :angel:
The Foden looks ex-Highway Haulage, the Gillott family created a lot history in many facets of road transport.
Yep, ex highway haulage it is, I have a lot more that I took but cannot post them all up here. Next time you are thru here you can have a look. The museum is on the left on the outskirts of Winton just after you turn right at the servo heading north for the Curry. I think that old Mack without mudguards is an BX model but cannot confirm that. Well worth a look next time you are going thru there. I learnt to drive in an old B61 with a quad box identical to the green one pictured.
V8Ian
5th December 2013, 10:12 PM
Right at the BP, over the train line, on the left? Have you been to Alice? Allow two days.
Bearman
5th December 2013, 10:15 PM
That's the one, and yes one day I will get to the Alice, particularly interested in the old stuff like the Government AEC cross country road train.
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