Who has a pilot's licence??

[Petetheprinta]

Up until old age (and lack of funds) caught up with me I had a PPL. I trained in the old Cessna 150 and 172, endorsements for Piper and a few other odds and sods. Many moons ago.

Now fly RAA, flown Jabirus, Savannah, Tecnam and FK9. good fun and comparatively cheap flying.

Just wondering who on this site has a pilot's licence, and what do you fly??

[Eevo]

FK9.

given there are only 2 of these in Australia, im going to guess your flying micks plane.

[85 county]

30 years, 1782 hrs, you name it from Corby starlets to T28s in Laos R22 to 19 hrs in BH, been to hard on the body stretched a few arteries, heart, kidneys a bit of scaring so that makes me a 1%.

[Petetheprinta]

given there are only 2 of these in Australia, im going to guess your flying micks plane.

May be Mick's, don't know the owner but YGAW Haven"t been for a while due to illness, hopefully back soon and yes to the PM. I guess I must know you?

[Eevo]

I guess I must know you?

yes, im catsy partner.

[Petetheprinta]

yes, im catsy partner.

Now i know, I will catch up with you on Saturday at OTH I think I saw your name on the list.

[stallie]

To answer your question, there are probably about a dozen regular posters in here who fly. And probably half of those do it for a living.

[JDNSW]

I suppose you could include me - I have a PPL, although not a current medical or recent experience; for a variety of reasons I have not flown since my wife died.

Most experience on Auster and Cessna 180, the two types I have owned, closely followed by Beech 36 and C210, also C150, 172, 175, 182, 185, 206, Piper 28, 28R, 32, Grumman AA-5, DH-82A, Bellanca Decathalon, Airtourer, Beech 23 and 33, and probably a few others that don't immediately come to mind.

I did my initial training on Airtourers, crosscountries on B23, then bought an Auster J5F, which I traded on a Cessna 180 when I moved to PNG, then sold that when I moved to Melbourne, where I rented aircraft.

John

[GregTD5]

I do it for a living. CPL (Helicopter) I have never flown a fixed wing.
Mostly flying in Fire Suppression roles.

Greg

[tailslide]

I have a PPL and parts of a Van's RV7A in my garage awaiting a few more rivets to be set...:angel: I must get back into it at some stage... I also have a block at Denmark airport (WA) waiting for a hangar/accommodation to be built on it.

Several times I have obtained a Class 1 medical with the view to completing my CPL, but just never got around to it. At best I could become a weekend flight instructor but I wouldn't change jobs full time.

Cheers
Ron

[NT5224]

No pilot's licence -but fly on a RAA ticket.

Thats all I need for getting around the Top End (just me and the missus).

[Randylandy]

I fly ag full time up here in north Qld. Currently flying a DW1 eagle bi plane.

[solmanic]

I got my PPL just over a year ago and am now in the process of trying to work out how to get regular flying time. Working my way through endorsements is one solution (done CSU & RG, tailwheel is next) and I will do my NVFR early next year. The biggest problem I've found is that when I don't fly for a month or more I get lazy and it feels like too much effort to plan a flight just for the hell of it (plus RQAC has an administrative regime that has to be seen to be believed). But when I do fly, as soon as I have landed I want to be back up there again.

[bigdog]

I qualified for my PPL on rotary wing (Schweizer/Hughes 300 & Robinson R22) many years ago back in the UK but let it lapse due to the onset of children and associated lack of funds.

I had big ideas at the time involving going to the US to obtain my CPL hours through power-line inspection flights however........then I met my girlfriend (now my wife) and things changed.........A shame in some respects as there was a shortage of qualified rotory wing pilots for a while.........

Then I bought a land rover........:p

[superquag]

"...Then I bought a land rover........ "

- Which means you'll never be able to afford flying again.....:(:(:(

I made a similar mistake when young....consoled myself with a NEW V8 Holden, instead of taking flying lessons.


( I thought a medical condition would stop me. Found out decades later that it would have made no differance... folk worse than me are flying today. Was too embarrassed to ask.... :mad:)

Buying my Classic has done the same to my finances...:p

[flagg]

I've been on my way to a CPL for a few years...... although I'm still only on an SPL with about 50 hours.

Mostly on Robin R2160s (and Alpha equiv), although I've also flown dual on Extra 200 & 300 and a Pitts S2c. This S2c is by far my favourite.

Eventually the dream is to fly ag, so I've been doing lots of aeros and have an instructor that tolerates no deviation from what I'm supposed to be doing!

[Fourgearsticks]

I have been lucky enough to fly for a living for a while.https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/01/1293.jpg (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/Almostoldfart/media/6_zps7c36da42.jpg.html)
Early one morning on the way to a job

[GregTD5]

Hi Fourgearsticks, is that Ag plane an Airtractor?

Greg

[Trooper63]

Solmanic,

Any recommendations for flight schools in Brisbane. I did two at YBAF, but looking at YCAB and YRED the fees seem lower?

[Fourgearsticks]

Hi Fourgearsticks, is that Ag plane an Airtractor?

Greg
Yip, 502

[solmanic]

Solmanic,

Any recommendations for flight schools in Brisbane. I did two at YBAF, but looking at YCAB and YRED the fees seem lower?

The main reason I only ever considered RQAC/AAA is that they are probably the least likely to go out of business. Someone advised me when I was starting out to never run a positive account balance at a flight school. Always pay as you go. During my training two other flight schools at Archerfield went bust. RQAC consequently kept getting bigger as it collected the scraps form the failed operations. They now have a lot of new simulators including a 737 and their C172 fleet is being streamlined as they offload the old 172Ns.

YCAB & YRED will always be cheaper but the good thing about Archerfield is that if you can handle traffic there, you can handle traffic anywhere. Plus your in Class-D so no need to travel to get that experience somewhere else. Eastern training area also can't be beaten for scenery, plenty of whales.

YRED is going to become interesting as I believe they are in the process of privatising it and have already banned flights in & out from non-Redcliffe schools. The parallel runway at YBBN is going to make things interesting. I can't actually see how their airspace can even remain once the Class-C area is expanded. It's already pretty well sandwiched in beside & underneath.

My training at RQ was fine, but I have a mate who has had no end of trouble with them - administratively speaking. Cancelled bookings, lost records, missed paperwork. It all comes down to the individual instructor and he was passed to three different ones due to instructors moving on or being transferred from RQ to the Airline Academy. I stuck with the one instructor the whole way through and it was fine. When I finished my PPL my regular instructor was also moved over to AAA so I made sure I latched onto the next most senior instructor for all my endorsements.

[Epic_Dragon]

my dad is a pilot (id have PPL if not for my disabilities) But he flew for many years in the 152s down at aldinga, actually did most of his licences in new zealand and UK. when we moved here is grew is ratings to instrument rating, commercial, and twin. then becomign an instructor. he was an instructor then at aldinga for some time, giving me some lessons as well. loved it, wish i could still fly now. we owned a cherokee archer 2 with 19 others for a while as well. now he teaches at the college at parafield in the ground school. but hes flown since he was old enough to haha. he did have an aerobatic rating as well, but hasnt renewed it in some time, he always promised hed take me up for aerobatics but he never has :( i get my love of aircraft from him i think LOL, grew up with planes and vehicles!

[beefy]

started my raa yesterday it was really good fun.

[T.Middo]

I fly for a living. At the moment I'm flying a 36 seater turbo prop for a regional airline. Absolutely love it. Still blows my mind that i get to fly planes all day and call it a "job".

[tailslide]

started my raa yesterday it was really good fun.

Which airfield are you doing this at Keith? Serpentine is a lot closer to you than me... :p

Cheers
Ron

[stallie]

I fly for a living. At the moment I'm flying a 36 seater turbo prop for a regional airline. Absolutely love it. Still blows my mind that i get to fly planes all day and call it a "job".

I'm hearing you. Just ending a months leave and looking forward to going back to work!

[HUE166]

I'd be buggered without my license too.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151204479003481&set=pb.729743480.-2207520000.1391304701.&type=3&theater

[HUE166]

I do it for a living. CPL (Helicopter) I have never flown a fixed wing.
Mostly flying in Fire Suppression roles.

Greg

I reckon we would have crossed paths Greg. Which state do you fly fires in?

[ss_0001]

29 years flying, the last nine for work. Currently on a 777.

Learnt on a C150, with the cadets. First job was mustering in a 182 near Normanton in FNQ, then ended up in Darwin for a while flying all sorts of stuff, including Metro's.

[beefy]

Which airfield are you doing this at Keith? Serpentine is a lot closer to you than me... :p

Cheers
Ron


I am doing at bindoon. I understand serpentine doesn't have training there.

[Graz]

29 years flying, the last nine for work. Currently on a 777.

Learnt on a C150, with the cadets. First job was mustering in a 182 near Normanton in FNQ, then ended up in Darwin for a while flying all sorts of stuff, including Metro's.

We all come from pretty humble beginnings.:)
Used work with a couple pilots with an operator in the Kimberly and Pilbara, they ended up over your way flying 777's.
To be more precise, they did the flying and I did the fixing.
Been years since I have heard of them, possibly even retired by now.

[stallie]

We all come from pretty humble beginnings.:)
.

Yep, and the further you get, and the bigger the plane, the more fondly you remember those beginnings.

[Old Farang]

Originaly trained on fixed wing up to PPL. Then went on to CPL Helicopter. Owned and operated a very early serial number R22, which was replaced by a 4 seat piston type that I bought in the US. I had this one assembled in Queensland and flew it to Perth.

Grounded now with a bad ticker!

[85 county]

Originaly trained on fixed wing up to PPL. Then went on to CPL Helicopter. Owned and operated a very early serial number R22, which was replaced by a 4 seat piston type that I bought in the US. I had this one assembled in Queensland and flew it to Perth.

Grounded now with a bad ticker!

so that would make you, Farang Gow Jai mai dee

[85 county]

few hours in this,

dealing with swing. nope start again

[JDNSW]

Following 85County's posts, here are pictures of the two planes I have owned. The Auster is at Archerfield, the 180 at Daru.

John

[85 county]

Following 85County's posts, here are pictures of the two planes I have owned. The Auster is at Archerfield, the 180 at Daru.

John

LOL i remeber being made to taxi an Auster around all diffrent airfeilds ( grass) before being alowed to get close to the 89. i didnt realy know why at the time. do now LOL

[DBT]

SPL(A), since 2002-ish.

Logged 30 hrs in 8 years. Half GA (C150), half RAA (P200).

Inactive 4 years. Not current in anything now :(

My pending Perentie purchase will prob keep me off the airfield for another few years. ;)

[beefy]

did my first solo on the weekend

[stallie]

Congratulations. Welcome to the club.:)

[superquag]

Well Done ! - on flying and keeping a Land Rover ... :wasntme:

[beefy]

Thank u

[85 county]

i must admit, flying around adelaide/ SA is a hell of a lot easyer than flying around NZ

[stallie]

but nowhere near as beautiful….

[nickjaxe]

A UK NPPL M which is a microlight licence,

I fly a weight shift trike..powered by a DCDI Rotax 503 two stroke...had it best part of 10 years and love it to bits.

Nick in the UK.

[TeamFA]

A UK NPPL M which is a microlight licence,

I fly a weight shift trike..powered by a DCDI Rotax 503 two stroke...had it best part of 10 years and love it to bits.

Nick in the UK.

Lucky bugger! It's on my wish list, my wife says we can get one when I turn 50... only 8 years away!

Got any pics?

[nickjaxe]

I will have a look at how to upload...for now here is a link to some of my youtube vids...under the name nickjaxe.

https://www.youtube.com/user/nickjaxe/videos

I was 51 when I started my lessons...wish I had started year earlier...same old story kids and buying a house get in the way,

Are trikes popular in Aus????

Nick.

[DBT]

They are about. In Aus you need a recreational pilot certificate, issued by a Recreational Aviation Administration Organisation, such as Recreational Aviation Australia (https://www.raa.asn.au/) (RA-AUS). Or a similar body.

As with all "ultralights", not permitted in controlled airspace. So they are restricted to regional areas. In Sydney, that means a good hours' drive North or South of the city.

[nickjaxe]

Wow thats very restricted then...we can fly anywhere anybody else can but need a transponder for the very busy airspace...I dont have one but have no problem with CAS in my area...we can even into other areas of Europe not that I have,

Saying that there is lots of class G or uncontrolled airspace all around my area.

Nick.

[TeamFA]

Luckily we're big enough that there's plenty of areas outside controlled airspace to go!

[superquag]

There is only one thing more dangerous (to the wallet) than LandRover-itis...

First, 45 mins in a cute little Italian sports plane, then another in the Yankee yo-yo, or Cessna 152.... then yesterday, an hour in a 172 'family flier'.

No prizes for guessing the disease. :o

- I'm told that exposure to Forms 1162, 497 and 498 will slow the syndrome somewhat, - anyone know if that's true ? :angel::twisted::angel:

[BigBlackDog]

You're in luck, those forms all change tomorrow!

And yes, they are depressing, mostly on the wallet

[DBT]

There is only one thing more dangerous (to the wallet) than LandRover-itis...

First, 45 mins in a cute little Italian sports plane, then another in the Yankee yo-yo, or Cessna 152.... then yesterday, an hour in a 172 'family flier'.

No prizes for guessing the disease. :o

- I'm told that exposure to Forms 1162, 497 and 498 will slow the syndrome somewhat, - anyone know if that's true ? :angel::twisted::angel:

Another common symptom: Soon you will start thinking of all other expenses in terms of hours, rather than dollars.

eg. "Crap! That power bill just cost me 4 hours in the 172!!!"

... so, the Italian job. Was it a Pioneer?

I logged 15 hours (4 years ago) in a P200.

[superquag]

Tecnam 'Sierra', low-wing mono with open-able in flight bubble canopy. Rotax powered, simply cute. So responsive yet stable that I'd call it a girl's plane.
Interestingly, the Woman's Aux. pilots who delivered Spitfires to the various airfields had the same opinion of them...

Yes, everything changes, the GFPT has been axed, and replaced by the RPL... which seems to be a sneaky way of undermining the RA-Aus licence and authority...(currently the licence needed for the MTOW 600kg or 'Sports Aircraft' class.)

The Big Decision is... after sorting out which licence will suit me best... is where and who to do it through. Bunbury Aero Club.... or RAC via Murrayfield, or Jandakot-based 'other' provider.

- Yes, the ARN application went in last week (to be sure...) but before I sign up anywhere I'm going to do the BAK at Royal Aero, as it's a simple way of finding out what I don't know. Also cheaper at $23.

Pics are... the Causative Agent and a person fatally infected.. Note the patient's demeanor, calm acceptance of his fate. Post-exposure Vaccination with a Cessna 152 was futile...

[superquag]

The disease is inexorable... affecting the logical pathways and self-preservation. - In a fit of irrationality, went and did the BAK exam (PPL) Passed...
Yeah, I know, we're supposed to do lessons first and lotsa study, then sweat the exam... but quite pleased that my general knowledge is where it should be, and now we know what I don't know.
Lots...

[Hooroo]

Most of my flying has been with the RFDS

[superquag]

Forgive me, but I've resurrected the son's un-registered Mazda 323, as it barely drinks half of what Sarah guzzles.

- which gives me an extra... ten and a half minutes of flying time. :D

[BJAS1961]

I have had this disease for about 30 years now; currently toying with the idea of tail-dragger endorsement in a Chipmunk.

[JDNSW]

I have had this disease for about 30 years now; currently toying with the idea of tail-dragger endorsement in a Chipmunk.

I haven't ever flown a Chipmunk, but both the planes I have owned have been taildraggers - an Auster J-5F and a Cessna 180. I have also flown DH82A, C185 and Citabria. Once the wheels are off the ground they are just like any other plane until the wheels touch the ground again. How difficult it is varies - the Citabria was dead easy, the C180 the most difficult. I don't know where the Chipmunk fits.

John

[BJAS1961]

I haven't ever flown a Chipmunk, but both the planes I have owned have been taildraggers - an Auster J-5F and a Cessna 180. I have also flown DH82A, C185 and Citabria. Once the wheels are off the ground they are just like any other plane until the wheels touch the ground again. How difficult it is varies - the Citabria was dead easy, the C180 the most difficult. I don't know where the Chipmunk fits.

John

I have been speaking to people about it and the Citabria is most commonly recommended as the best aircraft for the endorsement.

I have always wanted to fly a warbird, and I suspect the Chipmunk is as close as I will ever get. There are also some Tigermoths at Camden but the owners require a lot of hours on tailwheels before they will let you hire one.

[DBT]

Always wondered what the difference was between a Citabria and a Decathlon.

From a distance, they look the same.

[JDNSW]

Always wondered what the difference was between a Citabria and a Decathlon.

From a distance, they look the same.

About thirty horsepower. Basically, the Decathalon is a beefed up and more powerful Citabria - 180hp, where the Citabria was originally 100hp, although probably most are 150hp. The other major difference is that the Decathalon has a different aerofoil for the wings, which is close to symmetrical, so as to improve inverted flight.

The design, originating with Champion Aircraft as the Champ in 1944, has gone through a series of company collapses and is now apparently made by a American Champion Aircraft but no connection to the original company except they bought the designs etc from the receivers of Bellanca Aircraft.

John

[JDNSW]

I have been speaking to people about it and the Citabria is most commonly recommended as the best aircraft for the endorsement.

.....

My experience found it by far the easiest to fly (more accurately easiest to land and handle on the ground!) but whether this should be the criterion for 'best' when getting a tailwheel endorsement depends what you want to do with the endorsement. If you want to use it for flying one of the more difficult types, perhaps it may give you a false sense of your abilities.

After 70 hours on my Auster, which was nowhere near as easy as the Citabria, I found the C180 much more of a handful, to the extent that I managed to groundloop it simply by relaxing when the groundspeed was down to about 5kts on my first solo in it!

John

[BJAS1961]

My experience found it by far the easiest to fly (more accurately easiest to land and handle on the ground!) but whether this should be the criterion for 'best' when getting a tailwheel endorsement depends what you want to do with the endorsement. If you want to use it for flying one of the more difficult types, perhaps it may give you a false sense of your abilities.

The reasoning was; do the initial training / endorsement on the Citabria and then move to more challenging aircraft if you have a need or desire. Apparently the Chipmunk is fairly tame so the Citabria is an appropriate choice for the endorsement.

[JDNSW]

Never having flown a Chipmunk, I can't comment on it. The major factor for difficulty in ground handling is the position of the centre of gravity relative to the main wheels - wheels well ahead of it, get even a slight turning moment on the ground, especially with the tailwheel off the ground, and things rapidly get out of hand (e.g. C180). On the other hand, wheels too close to the centre of gravity, and it is too easy to nose over (e.g. DH82A, but not a big problem as no brakes).

Reading the logbook on my C180 when I got it, and picking up some local gossip later, it seems that when serving as a workhorse in Wewak, PNG, about five years before I bought it, one of the company's pilots was demonstrating to a new hire that you can land the 180 with the brakes on without doing a noseover. He was wrong, you can if you do it on a bitumen runway. Next logbook entry was a rebuild at Archerfield. But it will stand even very heavy braking even on bitumen.

Other factors include the effectiveness of the rudder at low speed, the effectiveness of the steerable tailwheel, and the effectiveness of the brakes.

John

[Fourgearsticks]

Chippie is a delight to fly, wide gear makes it pretty good. Most tailwheels are OK as long as your on the ball. The bad reputation of the poor old 180 is undeserved, as is the 185.

[JDNSW]

Chippie is a delight to fly, wide gear makes it pretty good. Most tailwheels are OK as long as your on the ball. The bad reputation of the poor old 180 is undeserved, as is the 185.

I flew hundreds of hours in my C180, and after that first solo in it had no problems, but I have no illusions that it was easy to learn. As you say, you need to be on the ball. I found the 185 was easy in comparison, probably because of the bigger dorsal fin.

John

[AV8R]

Basically, the Decathalon is a beefed up and more powerful Citabria -

The design, originating with Champion Aircraft as the Champ in 1944,.

John

Starting as the Champ, the uprated version was the Citabria (note: Airbatic spelled backwards !) This then evolved into the more capable Citabria Decathlon. Never flown any of them :(


BTW I have a PPL/IR 2300 Hrs mostly in PC6T and C208 :cool:

[BigBlackDog]

I need to update my original reply, got myself a helicopter CPL to go with the aeroplane licence just before Christmas:)

[superquag]

... Reckon I'm over the half-way mark... First Solo this morning. :D:D:D

The plan was to stop here...and tick it off the Bucket List (Reach a good enough standard to go up/around alone)

- Never thought I'd have so much pure fun at 60+. :p

[85 county]

... Reckon I'm over the half-way mark... First Solo this morning. :D:D:D

The plan was to stop here...and tick it off the Bucket List (Reach a good enough standard to go up/around alone)

- Never thought I'd have so much pure fun at 60+. :p

lol, congrats

all ships are hot ships on your first solo. climb like a bat out of hell. all your turning reference points are wrong. hard to wash off the speed. have to point the nose down more.

[JDNSW]

... Reckon I'm over the half-way mark... First Solo this morning. :D:D:D

The plan was to stop here...and tick it off the Bucket List (Reach a good enough standard to go up/around alone)

- Never thought I'd have so much pure fun at 60+. :p
Congratulations - the enduring impression of my first solo is how much better the Victa climbs with only one on board!

John

[superquag]

You're not wrong !
Only 20 or seconds from starting the 'rolling' radio call..to airborne, and I was really gentle on opening the throttle. (gravel runway)

Shortest 5 mins 44s of my life. :p

I was SO tempted to find an excuse for a Go-Around:angel: Good thing I did'nt, as my SI and CFI were two steps ahead of me..

Nice view out the RH window...

[superquag]

Victa ? I've heard of hotted-up lawnmowers, but flying one ?

I'm Impressed. :p


(Sorry, 8 hours later and I'm still grinning..........)

[JDNSW]

Victa ? I've heard of hotted-up lawnmowers, but flying one ?

I'm Impressed. :p


(Sorry, 8 hours later and I'm still grinning..........)

The Millicer Airtourer was mass produced by Victa Ltd from 1961 to 1966, and a fleet of them was used by Hoxton Park Flying School, where I learnt to fly in 1966.

The Victa Airtourer designs and the prototype Aircruiser four seater designs and tooling were sold to AESL after the then federal government declined protection, and AESL (in NZ) continued production, developing the Aircruiser into the Airtrainer.

John

[superquag]

Another example of home-grown Good Design.... treated with contempt by the political powers-that-be.. We don't want to consider any murky conspiracy theories about the Australian Govt and certain overseas aircraft manufacturers...

From fading memory, did'nt the fuselage - roof-line - make a useful contribution to lift ?

[JDNSW]

Another example of home-grown Good Design.... treated with contempt by the political powers-that-be.. We don't want to consider any murky conspiracy theories about the Australian Govt and certain overseas aircraft manufacturers...

From fading memory, did'nt the fuselage - roof-line - make a useful contribution to lift ?

The roofline from the windscreen cowling back was certainly approximately aerofoil section, and yes, it was claimed to produce lift, but personally I always rather doubted the claim.

Compared to contemporary competitors, notably the C150, it had high wing loading, which it got away with by full span flaps - ailerons also acted as flaps, and the flaps as ailerons, and there was a split flap under the fuselage. Also, unlike the competitors, it was stressed for aerobatics (+6 and -3g from memory), and approved for spinning, although limited to, I think from memory to two turns, as otherwise it would exceed VNE during recovery. They did not really spin properly, but a spin would rapidly change into a spiral dive - recovery was easy.

Dual controls comprised a control stick beween the seats, with a throttle and handbrake at each end of the panel. Flap lever on the left only. Springing was similar to a Cessna for the main gear, with the nosewheel sprung by the front strut out of a Ford Consul, with very direct steering from the rudder pedals. No toe brakes, and adjustable pedals, as the seats were fixed, fuel tank under them. Access to the cockpit by a sliding canopy that could be opened in flight.

Flying a Victa compared to say a Cessna is like driving an MG B compared to a Commodore.

John

[superquag]

So the centre-mounted double-stick is an old idea.. and two throttles. - My LH is covering one, force of habit and club proceedure under 1,000' AGL (take it off and Satan pulls it to idle...:twisted:)
A flight-openable canopy kind of disposes the 'lift' idea.
Even with my limited experience I agree the Cessnas as being typical Yank-Tanks.

The Jabiru isn't rated for fun-attitudes, - an old (?) biplane is used to introduce the vict... er, sorry, 'Students' to 'Interesting Stuff'.

Looking forward to it... I think.:o

First Solo should come with a Health warning.. still got a silly grin on my dial, and almost worn out the flight-video.:p

[C00P]

Been flying about 45 years- started in gliders, got RPL and tug-plane endorsement so could do both (Pawnee tug). About 150 hours aero-towing (about 1500 take-offs and landings) during uni because the bloke on the other end of the cable was paying :).
Got to instructor level in gliders and got my diamond badge, then ran out of things to do (not very competitive so comps didn't attract). Have had shares in a Tiger, a Piper 140, and a Kestrel 17 glider. At one stage we were a three-aeroplane family (but the shares didn't even add up to one complete aircraft!). Then sold the lot and bought an aircraft we could afford to own ourselves- an Auster J1 (Gypsy Major). Have pedaled this all over the country on various holidays. Destinations have included, Ayers Rock, Alice Springs, Serpentine and the banks of the Swan (Langley Park ), Geraldton, Kalgoorlie, Forrest, Broken Hill, Longreach, Rockhampton, Bankstown, Armidale, and various locations in NSW and Vic.
Great touring machine, carries a good load with two up, lands anywhere, can run happily on unleaded,bit slow and very noisy, but very cheap to own and maintain. No fancy instruments, no expensive hydraulics or electronics.Not even a starter motor so no big battery or generator/alternator to worry about.
And, of course, it was made in England,so naturally it leaks oil. It and the SIII live in the same shed, and we love them both...

Coop
91850

[superquag]

First Flight video now worn out...

Went up for 3 circuits last week.. did'nt record it.. Good thing, perhaps, muffed one shrt final, (but great excuse for a Go-Around ! - decision/reasoning endorsed by CFI) one good one and another just as good.... let's not mention that roll-out, except I'm thankful our field is over 40 metres wide.:angel:

[superquag]

"...And, of course, it was made in England,so naturally it leaks oil. It and the SIII live in the same shed, and we love them both..."

- bet they blame each other for the oily puddles.... :p

[JDNSW]

"...And, of course, it was made in England,so naturally it leaks oil. It and the SIII live in the same shed, and we love them both..."

- bet they blame each other for the oily puddles.... :p

The Gipsy Major leaks a lot more oil than most Landrovers (although most is spread around the countryside) - the inverted valve gear operates as what is essentially a total loss oil system. Oil gets into the rocker covers via the pushrod tubes, and fills to rocker cover to a level set by a pipe that leads straight outside. Of course, given it has this system, the designers did not concern themselves too much about any other oil leaks!

John

[85 county]

The Gipsy Major leaks a lot more oil than most Landrovers (although most is spread around the countryside) - the inverted valve gear operates as what is essentially a total loss oil system. Oil gets into the rocker covers via the pushrod tubes, and fills to rocker cover to a level set by a pipe that leads straight outside. Of course, given it has this system, the designers did not concern themselves too much about any other oil leaks!

John

interesting the queens have a scavenger pump, i always assumed that the majors did as well

[JDNSW]

interesting the queens have a scavenger pump, i always assumed that the majors did as well

Possibly later Marks did - my Auster had a Gipsy Major 10 the same as the DH82A, except it had a starter (but no engine driven generator - it relied on a small generator operated by a 12" propeller, set in the leading edge of the starboard wing, just outside the propeller arc). Possibly when later marks introduced an engine driven generator, the also introduced a scavenge pump. On the Auster engine, instead of a scavenge pump, the oil tank was situated well below the crankcase, with scavenging by gravity, but it was not below the rocker cases.

Permissible oil consumption - 1qt to 1 gallon per hour. From memory, tank capacity six gallons. Not much of that got burnt, although starting after standing for a few weeks, after carefully turning by hand to ensure no hydraulic lock, the first two or three minutes saw you enveloped in a smoke screen.

John

[85 county]

sounds the same as the dh89. turn the scavenger pump anti clock wise a couple of times before pulling through. electric start, gen and 12" prop leading edge port side upper. always started port first so a few reves would spin the generator so you could get enough kick to start starboard. these were queen11 queen 1 had the copper heads, the queen "R" IE dh88. higher compression and automatic pitch ( horrible idea.) 9 lts 200 hp. all the way to the supercharged queens in the heron. quite simple motors, no problems once you got rid of the cork floats.

[JDNSW]

Gipsy major engine was reliable and durable, reaching 1500hrs TBO by 1945, very high for any aero engine at that time. Only in flight engine failure I have had was not one of them, but a Lycoming (dropped a valve) in a Grumman Tiger.

John

[85 county]

cool, i had No2 port part a piston over D'urville Island. with weight and - 200ft a minit at 3500 ft. lucky i had an old school NAC pilot onbord. got some lift over the island then flew from cloud to cloud into nelson. that's when i went bald

[C00P]

"...And, of course, it was made in England,so naturally it leaks oil. It and the SIII live in the same shed, and we love them both..."

- bet they blame each other for the oily puddles.... :p
Yep, you could guarantee it... :)

I've not seen a Tiger with a Gypsy 10, the one we had ran a Gypsy Major, as have all the others I've seen. But some of the Austers have them. Athough I say it leaks oil because it's British, in fact our engine was built at Fisherman's bend by GMH under license from DeHavilland.
The later gypsies had a scavenge system involving a second scavenge pump behind the first, and associated pipework and small sump mounted at the back of the engine.They also had oil coolers.
I once teased a good mate who owned a Dragon that the only difference between his aircraft and mine was that his spread twice as much oil across the countryside in the same time....
Coop

[JDNSW]

Yep, you could guarantee it... :)

I've not seen a Tiger with a Gypsy 10, the one we had ran a Gypsy Major, as have all the others I've seen. But some of the Austers have them. Athough I say it leaks oil because it's British, in fact our engine was built at Fisherman's bend by GMH under license from DeHavilland.
........
Coop

I could be wrong about the Mark of mine (I assumed that was the Mark, as according to Wikipedia, these were the first with an optional starter - and my Auster definitely had a starter), but it was certainly the same engine as those in the Tiger Moth - and was also made by GMH. I believe there were about 10,000 made in Australia, most by GMH, but some by Tasmanian Railways Workshops. There were over 1,000 DH82As made in Australia, and the engines were intended for them - used intensively in training, they were expected to go through a lot of engines.

But a lot of engines were left over at the end of the war, and Kingsford Smith Aviation in Sydney were the first to fit Gipsy Majors to Austers in the late 1940s.

John

[C00P]

I could be wrong about the Mark of mine (I assumed that was the Mark, as according to Wikipedia, these were the first with an optional starter - and my Auster definitely had a starter), but it was certainly the same engine as those in the Tiger Moth - and was also made by GMH. I believe there were about 10,000 made in Australia, most by GMH, but some by Tasmanian Railways Workshops. There were over 1,000 DH82As made in Australia, and the engines were intended for them - used intensively in training, they were expected to go through a lot of engines.

But a lot of engines were left over at the end of the war, and Kingsford Smith Aviation in Sydney were the first to fit Gipsy Majors to Austers in the late 1940s.

John
Yep, and they also designed the auxiliary fuel tank and had it made by the factory in the UK. (2 hours of fuel is plenty for UK but doesn't get you far in Oz :)).
There were a number of models of Gypsy Major- the 10 and the 10MkII were fitted to later models of Auster and some had starters as well as the oil scavenging system I described.
But you can go to an Auster fly-in and see 20 or so Austers, all seemingly very similar, but not one of them the same model. In fact there were 65 or so models of Auster designed, and if you eliminate from the count any where they made less than five, then you still have 45 models. Plus, there was a tendency to swap parts around as the design is quite flexible, so there is almost no such thing as a "standard" Auster!.
When I obtained my Auster it had a generator fitted to the side of the motor at the rear, driven by a belt from a pulley attached to the rear of the crankcase. As far as I know, this is the only one that has been so modified. It was done in the 60's to power a radio for the purpose of whale-spotting (better them than me....). It eventually stopped working, so I removed it and the old two-bobbin mechanical regulator and associated wiring (gaining about 10 kilos of payload in the process) and the modern radio I have now runs off a small solar panel connected to a gel cell- which provides more than enough power.
Cheers

Coop

[superquag]

... So, from the sounds of the above, one could infer that the Auster is, dollar-for-dollar, a viable hobby aircraft today, assuming you are'nt in a hurry and don't mind swinging a prop.

Mind you, anyone who buys and keeps Land Rover is not the most sensible of persons...:wasntme:

James in Gosnells,
The Lady Sarah, 1995 Classic Vogue SE with working air suspension...:D

[C00P]

... So, from the sounds of the above, one could infer that the Auster is, dollar-for-dollar, a viable hobby aircraft today, assuming you are'nt in a hurry and don't mind swinging a prop.

Mind you, anyone who buys and keeps Land Rover is not the most sensible of persons...:wasntme:

James in Gosnells,
The Lady Sarah, 1995 Classic Vogue SE with working air suspension...:D

I'd drink to that.
The Landy I own falls into the same category, especially with respect to speed and simplicity.
But I haven't managed to start it with the crank handle yet.... :D

Coop

[superquag]

... tried towing it down a gravel 'road'?

- With an Auster ?

:p:p:p:p:twisted::p:p:p:p

(Please tell me it's not a tiny LCD-display 'MicroAir' VHF.. would look just ... wrong on the ancient panel !.)

[C00P]

(Please tell me it's not a tiny LCD-display 'MicroAir' VHF.. would look just ... wrong on the ancient panel !.)

Well, it isn't a Micro-air. But I have to disappoint you- it's an X-Com, and yes, it does look a little out of place. But then, so does ANY radio, because most of them are too large to fit into the panel- the depth is limited by the presence of the fuel tank behind it. The radio is mounted in the starboard wing root with a repeat head mounted in the panel. The old Comm-11A was mounted on top of the panel where it obscured the view. The Auster I learned to fly on (many years ago) had it's radio mounted under the pilot's seat. It used crystals, and had a very limited number of frequencies. And you had to stick your head between your legs to check the frequency;)
Me and the Navigator have pedaled this machine all over the country, including relatively busy places such as Coff's Harbour and Rockhampton, so a decent radio was essential. We are not of the class of aviators that spend more time building and restoring than they do flying, and our machine looks a little rough around the edges, but it's been a lot further than many others...
Like here...
92922
And here..
92924

Coop

[superquag]

No prizes for guessing what I was given on Saturday...:D:D:D

[HUE166]

No prizes for guessing what I was given on Saturday...:D:D:D

Happy Birthday for Saturday! Did you go flying?

[superquag]

.... er,,,, Yeah , went flying with the personification of Satan, and after a flight to and from Hell, he gave me that little badge thingy...:twisted::twisted::twisted:

[Gordie]

Hi, I did, learnt to fly at 17yo in NZ, let the licence lapse, but it is still 'alive', don't get me started on CASA, I have just spent the last 3yrs trying to conform with their shifting goal posts and implementation of PT61, and still don't have my Aus PPL, after 10hrs of refresher with an instructor, passing a BFR, and medical, PAOS exam etc, and submitting tons of paperwork 3 times. Only to be now told that I need to get the licence renewed in NZ and then come back to them here. It looks like it will be easier just to sit the air law exam and do a BFR in NZ, and just have the licence for when I visit there. Hopefully one day I shall fly again!

[HUE166]

Hi, I did, learnt to fly at 17yo in NZ, let the licence lapse, but it is still 'alive', don't get me started on CASA, I have just spent the last 3yrs trying to conform with their shifting goal posts and implementation of PT61, and still don't have my Aus PPL, after 10hrs of refresher with an instructor, passing a BFR, and medical, PAOS exam etc, and submitting tons of paperwork 3 times. Only to be now told that I need to get the licence renewed in NZ and then come back to them here. It looks like it will be easier just to sit the air law exam and do a BFR in NZ, and just have the licence for when I visit there. Hopefully one day I shall fly again!

CASA are the bain of my entire existance. They have robbed my of my license which saw my income stop for 8 months. They are a pack of weasels.

[Gordie]

Yes I have to say, they have not been at all helpful, and a lengthy email to them is usually responded to with a one sentence reply, whereas my correspondence with NZCAA has been the total opposite, getting lengthy emails in return, even from the principle examiner who had since left the post and referred me to his replacement, and explaining things clearly and in detail....like a breath of fresh air after CASA!

[superquag]

... which may explain why the Canadians were scathing in their opinion of a CASA investigation...

Go RA-Aus, fly new, modern fun-aircraft.... just not in and out of controlled airspace and major centres. - But who wants to anyway ?

Do it all on a car-licence 'medical'.

[Narangga]

I suppose I still have a licence but I haven't flown since last century ;)

Did 5,000 hours in a C206 :eek2: over north-east Arnhem Land

[superquag]

Not a big problem, but you can be re-trained...

:wasntme:

[Narangga]

I'd rather just take the money rather than the retraining...

[Eevo]

... which may explain why the Canadians were scathing in their opinion of a CASA investigation...

Go RA-Aus, fly new, modern fun-aircraft.... just not in and out of controlled airspace and major centres. - But who wants to anyway ?

Do it all on a car-licence 'medical'.



for ra-aus dont even need that medical.
in the next year or 2, casa will dispose of ra-aus and introduce a recreation licence that will allow flight into controled airspace but will require a medical.

[BigBlackDog]

They have already laid down the new recreational licence, allowing for flight within 50 nm of departure and in aircraft below 1500kg, can't remember if there is a passenger restriction in addition to the 6 people on board for private ops.

What they haven't yet done is open that licence up to RA registered aircraft. It will bring some better structure to the training, well hopefully out the hot shot RA instructors out there.

[HUE166]

Aren't all private ops restricted to 6 POB or less?

Sent from my GT-P5100 using AULRO mobile app

[tailslide]

Aren't all private ops restricted to 6 POB or less?
...

No. A private pilot can fly any aeroplane that they have a type endorsement for. If the type requires multi crew then the pilot needs to have completed an approved course for multi crew cooperation.


Hence, apart from money and training, there is nothing stopping a private operation of a 747 jet with the seats full.

[HUE166]

... So, from the sounds of the above, one could infer that the Auster is, dollar-for-dollar, a viable hobby aircraft today, assuming you are'nt in a hurry and don't mind swinging a prop.

Mind you, anyone who buys and keeps Land Rover is not the most sensible of persons...:wasntme:

James in Gosnells,
The Lady Sarah, 1995 Classic Vogue SE with working air suspension...:D

I very nearly bought an Auster only 9 months ago. It ended up going for $7,000. I think I should have grabbed it!

[HUE166]

No. A private pilot can fly any aeroplane that they have a type endorsement for. If the type requires multi crew then the pilot needs to have completed an approved course for multi crew cooperation.


Hence, apart from money and training, there is nothing stopping a private operation of a 747 jet with the seats full.

I agree that endorsements will gain higher privileges but I would read the regs again. There is a very definite ruling somewhere restricting private pilots to ops involving six seats or under. I'll try to find it. It's in the CAR's somewhere.

[tailslide]

The "six seats" limit applies to private cost sharing flights, where up to six people including the pilot share in the direct cost of the flight.


If there is no cost sharing then there is no restriction on the number of seats.

[BigBlackDog]

The reference is CAR 2, subparagraph 7A. That one relates to the "cost sharing" thing and provides a limit on passengers.
Subparagraph 7(d) is the other one, which is probably more relevant to a commercial pilot being employed for private ops. No limit on passengers
I must admit I thought the 6 did relate to private in general, it never ceases to frustrate how much you think you know only to find out you read it wrong!

[HUE166]

The "six seats" limit applies to private cost sharing flights, where up to six people including the pilot share in the direct cost of the flight.


If there is no cost sharing then there is no restriction on the number of seats.

Well there you go. I'm not too old to learn something!:)

[superquag]

They have already laid down the new recreational licence, allowing for flight within 50 nm of departure and in aircraft below 1500kg, can't remember if there is a passenger restriction in addition to the 6 people on board for private ops.

What they haven't yet done is open that licence up to RA registered aircraft. It will bring some better structure to the training, well hopefully out the hot shot RA instructors out there.

Not sure what you meant, - especially the bolded phrase...

[tailslide]

Just went for my Class 2 medical after being sidelined for 9 months post shoulder surgery. My DAME is happy, but it needs CASA sign off... Then I need to do an AFR (Aeroplane Flight Review) and get my license converted to Part 61.

[Gordie]

Just went for my Class 2 medical after being sidelined for 9 months post shoulder surgery. My DAME is happy, but it needs CASA sign off... Then I need to do an AFR (Aeroplane Flight Review) and get my license converted to Part 61.
Good luck with CASA mate, they are just ignoring my emails now....next step will be to contact local MP me thinks.

[superquag]

Yet another example of why I made the choice to go the "RA-Aus" route into the air, - suggested to me by a DAME near the end of my Student Pilot Medical.

A medical issue that would 'prevent' me from driving a car for a period also affects my Pilot Certificate privileges, but when driving is OK, then I'm airborne again.
Without ANOTHER 'Flight Medical Review or a Blessing from CASA.

[Gordie]

You are right, and it has been suggested to me before that I go RA. But considering that I have already done the hard yards for a PPL, and considering the amount of time, effort and expense over the past 3yrs that I have put into renewing that PPL, I really, by principle, have to stick with it! I have sent a letter to my local fed mp, but failing that I will have to take up the NZ offer, of doing an exam, bfr, medical, and just flying there instead of here. It would seem that CASA are a rather more hard to please, and don't seem to stick to the guidelines of ICAO like the other signatories seem to do!

[Eevo]

CASA are just super busy at the monent,

i sent an email to the SA/NT CASA rep, who was my flying instructor, took him 2 weeks to reply to my email.

[Gordie]

CASA are just super busy at the monent,

i sent an email to the SA/NT CASA rep, who was my flying instructor, took him 2 weeks to reply to my email.
I hope that is all it is....I have sent 3 emails since Feb, so that is over 6months, and I haven't had a reply to any of them. I understand that they are busy, and that they are probably really under resourced, but a response to an email asking if "I am being ignored" surely wouldn't take too long to write back, "we are still considering your case". But hey, I probably got spoiled, by NZ CAA instantly replying in detail to any question I had!!

[C00P]

I very nearly bought an Auster only 9 months ago. It ended up going for $7,000. I think I should have grabbed it!

If it had an engine and the engine was serviceable, yes, you should have!
Suspect that may have just been the airframe?
C00P

[HUE166]

If it had an engine and the engine was serviceable, yes, you should have!
Suspect that may have just been the airframe?
C00P

You are dead right. I should have grabbed it. It certainly did have an engine with hours to run and was given a fresh maintenance release. I missed a great opportunity although I was anxious about getting frustrated with the lack of speed available with the Auster. I do regret not buying it though.;)

[superquag]

..
- It's British, leaks oil, slower than a what? unreliable, an icon.... what's not to love ?

You own a Landrover, - and you're worried about a 'slower' aeroplane ?

[HUE166]

..
- It's British, leaks oil, slower than a what? unreliable, an icon.... what's not to love ?

You own a Landrover, - and you're worried about a 'slower' aeroplane ?

All very good points well taken.:D

[superquag]

The last Auster I flew in was owned/restored/repaired (many times...) by a farmer, who got his PPL at 60-ish years old. He was a passionate exponent of the steep approach and shrt field landing technique. - From necessity...

Dropped valves were a repeat problem, and the final straw was a con-rod that had ambitions of being a propeller... bashed out two holes in the block that you could put a fist through. :eek:

It never flew again, despite a good 'Un-scheduled Landing'. Was sold into the Eastern States somewhere, QLD I think.
Good thing he didn't put the spare engine in, turned out the main spar had been damaged (by mice?) and was 'doubtful'. :o

One day I'll find the photo of the view through it's engine.

[HUE166]

For the time being I am enjoying not having so much of a drain on the wallet as any aeroplane represents. I sold my forklift yesterday and my truck today. There is such a feeling of relief in not having to worry about which one is going to cost me money next. However, I have found a series 1, series 2a SWB ute, and a series 3 tray back ute all sitting in the same shed near home. I am thinking of making an offer on all three. There goes that care free feeling!

[superquag]

... go and buy a 'plane.... will be much cheaper !

[tailslide]

Just went for my Class 2 medical after being sidelined for 9 months post shoulder surgery. My DAME is happy, but it needs CASA sign off... Then I need to do an AFR (Aeroplane Flight Review) and get my license converted to Part 61.

My Class 2 turned up in the post today.:D But as I'm now on the wrong side of 50 I now have a condition requiring reading glasses to be carried. I'm not sure where I will be keeping these while I'm pulling -3.5G while inverted... :angel: Not to worry it will be awhile before I get back into aerobatics. The WA Aerobatics Champs are on 9th Oct so I will probably drop in to watch the proceedings.

Cheers
Ron

[C00P]

Dropped valves were a repeat problem, and the final straw was a con-rod that had ambitions of being a propeller... bashed out two holes in the block that you could put a fist through. :eek:

The early valves were a problem and were replaced with stellited valves which work very wel and rarely faill. However, these have now become rare (I have a spare set which cost $1400 for 4) and some people are resorting to using the older valves which are really limited to about 250 hours.


One day I'll find the photo of the view through it's engine.

Would like to see that. If it dropped valves then damage to a conrod is possible, and subsequent failure unsurprising (although I bet it was surprising at the time!) :o

Coop

[JDNSW]

Quite a few years ago I had a bit of an experience, not in an Auster, but in a Grumman Tiger - dropped a valve and I made a landing at Wagga on three cylinders with minimum power (straight in, downwind!). A good result largely from a practice of flying at the highest practical altitude, A9500 on this occasion.

Later strip down of the engine showed the piston had disappeared and the conrod had made a mess of the cylinder. I don't have any more details - rented plane.

John

[superquag]

I've had a NINE Week enforced grounding due to a medical condition... with a 3 month "Against Medical Advice to drive'' any car or Heavy Vehicle... which has been a pain in the 'Sit-Upon', risking the bus-driving job as well as my sanity...

Not even allowed to drive to the corner shoppe, lest I have a Bad Reaction and will therefore have NO insurance, vehicle or 3rd party.
Most annoying aspect ? - NO proof given to me, apart from 'anecdotal' that Terrible Things Will Happen if I get behind the wheel.

But there is light at the end, my "Six"-Week follow-up will be next week, EIGHT weeks after the procedure. Obviously, they're not overly worried about me.
So I'm going Flying tomorrow to make up for the House Arrest... Taking a passenger as well...

Naturally, when I see the Surgeon next week, I may "forget" to mention that said PAX is my Chief Flying Instructor.:p

What problem ? - He only mentioned 'Driving' a bus or car, nothing about an aeroplane... - if he gives me an edited version of the FACTS, why should I not reciprocate ??? :eek::eek::eek:

Grumpy James in Gosnells

[Eevo]

dont quote me, but i think if you're found put, you might be facing jail time.

and if something does happen, you would be up on manslaughter charges.

[HUE166]

I've had a NINE Week enforced grounding due to a medical condition... with a 3 month "Against Medical Advice to drive'' any car or Heavy Vehicle... which has been a pain in the 'Sit-Upon', risking the bus-driving job as well as my sanity...

Not even allowed to drive to the corner shoppe, lest I have a Bad Reaction and will therefore have NO insurance, vehicle or 3rd party.
Most annoying aspect ? - NO proof given to me, apart from 'anecdotal' that Terrible Things Will Happen if I get behind the wheel.

But there is light at the end, my "Six"-Week follow-up will be next week, EIGHT weeks after the procedure. Obviously, they're not overly worried about me.
So I'm going Flying tomorrow to make up for the House Arrest... Taking a passenger as well...

Naturally, when I see the Surgeon next week, I may "forget" to mention that said PAX is my Chief Flying Instructor.:p

What problem ? - He only mentioned 'Driving' a bus or car, nothing about an aeroplane... - if he gives me an edited version of the FACTS, why should I not reciprocate ??? :eek::eek::eek:

Grumpy James in Gosnells

The golden rule in any such situation is "Do not tell your DAME anything". As soon as the CASA medical branch get hold of any information like that they will bleed you dry of finance having this test and that test conducted while your income is stifled.!

[85 county]

The golden rule in any such situation is "Do not tell your DAME anything". As soon as the CASA medical branch get hold of any information like that they will bleed you dry of finance having this test and that test conducted while your income is stifled.!

and that is how they make there income

[HUE166]

and that is how they make there income

That's unfortunately very true.

[superquag]

With the Flying Instructor as 'Pilot In Command.' I don't see what the problem could be... The purpose was 'Therapy' - and checking for 'interesting' reactions to altitude changes, something that being chauffered up/down our "hills" in Perth can't duplicate.:angel:


Flight went well, no barotrauma or other concerns... My confidence acceptable, and a bit rusty. Worse than I'd have liked, not as bad as I'd feared. ;)

- F.I. looked relaxed to the point of boredom, though he did comment about a few things...:o

Being up in the air again was ... Priceless. !

Oh ok, treated SWMBO to a Pub-Lunch on the way home. Good Value again!

Not likely to go up again till Blessed by the High Priests in a few weeks time, putting the savings towards a better headset.

[superquag]

and that is how they make there income

Seems a common trait... Dept of Transport (road) has a similar 'fiefdom' and no more logical.
When my Type 2 Diabetes was not "perfectly" controlled... ie, running HIGH figures, they were concerned that I'd become incapacitated ... by experiencing a sudden LOW event...

Had to get a covering letter from an Endocrinologist stating that (a) I was fit to drive anything despite previously showing 'higher' than their benchmarks..and (b) that my current 'normal' figure was indeed genuine, and not the result of a 'high' miraculously plummeting to Normal... or beyond.

Ever tried to see a Specialist as a new patient at less than 30 days notice ? :eek:

I think that was the time that I started distrusting Powers That Be...:angel:

[Plane Fixer]

Do not trust CASA ever. I have lost my medical because the DAME is in the same clinic as my family doctor. I have not flown solo for a number of years now but do the odd bit of dual at work.
When I issue a maintenance release I have to do a circuit or two with the pilot :wasntme:
I would like to go recreational but have been over ruled by higher authority.
Due current rules GA is being legislated out of existence as empty skies are safe skies.
In 50 years in aviation I have seen the best and now the worst. I have been fortunate that I have done things, seen places around the world that would be impossible today.

[superquag]

Pardon my curiosity.... but are you medically OK to drive a car? then - and it's my understanding - RA-Aus accepts the same conditions for your Pilot Certificate. eg, 'Wear correcting glasses' etc.

Foxbat Australia (http://www.foxbat.com.au/pilot_lincensing) (RA-Aus site is down at the moment...)

But , we aren't allowed in Controlled Airspace, so that wouldn't suit your work...:(

Is it worth getting a second opinion, - from a more distant DAME ? :wasntme:

[Plane Fixer]

I am certainly OK to drive. It was a case of short term vertigo and I am sure I could redo the medical and pass.
I have looked at RAA but my wife now would prefer I remain grounded:(
Having 50 years in aviation and a lifetime around it (I grew up on an airport and Dad was a pilot and then ATC) I am happy where I am re piloting, but still very active in maintenance.
Back in my early airline days I have been on pilot training flights where engines were shut down and restarted, various manoeuvres were carried out including full stalls in aircraft such as Vickers Viscount, F27, L188 Electra, and DC3/4/6. For a young apprentice they were interesting times.
I am still in aviation as it has shaped my life and could not imagine otherwise.

[BigBlackDog]

There is a new standard where you can use a drivers medical to do certain things. I don't know what it involves exactly as it doesn't apply to what I do.
That being said, if you have a medical condition that effects the conditions of your aviation medical, you are legally obligated, no, required, to raise it.
Remember that the medical officer is also legally liable, if he signs you off and you have something happen that was known, then guess who has the chance to end up in court. Not saying it's right or fair, but it is the world that people have created.
Superquag - with your CFI in the drivers seat the no issues at all, I think people just missed your meaning originally of having a passenger!

[superquag]

There is a new standard where you can use a drivers medical to do certain things. I don't know what it involves exactly as it doesn't apply to what I do.
That being said, if you have a medical condition that effects the conditions of your aviation medical, you are legally obligated, no, required, to raise it.
Remember that the medical officer is also legally liable, if he signs you off and you have something happen that was known, then guess who has the chance to end up in court. Not saying it's right or fair, but it is the world that people have created.
Superquag - with your CFI in the drivers seat the no issues at all, I think people just missed your meaning originally of having a passenger!

The look on the apprentice - Neurosurgeon's face was. . . . Priceless.

Yes, since I was re$ponsible for hiring the 'plane, - and invited him to come along (to informally observe), I was "taking" a PAX.....

Thus the niceties of grammar are satisfied.

In reality, no CFI flying with a low-hours newbie is.... a passenger! And this one certainly isn't. :D:D:D

[FatBoy]

I just stumbled upon this thread. I am another one of those that fly for a living. Started off in the RAN on PC9s, then moved to AS350 Squirrels, then the Bell 206. From there I flew Seahawks embarked on ships, and then instructed a bit on Squirrels and Seahawks. Got out of the military a few years back and now fly and instruct on S92 helicopters in the off shore role. I have instructed basic students, as well as NVFR, MECIR and NVG.

So I have a PPL(A), with my fixed wing limited to PC9, SR20 and the PA44.

Helicopter wise I have an ATPL(H), having flown B206, AS350, AS355, BK117, S70 and currently the S92.

I have been told there are three stages to flying.
1. You will pay money to go flying.
2. You will only fly if somebody pays you.
3. You don't care if you fly, as long as somebody pays you.

I am somewhere between 2 and 3 at the moment.

[HUE166]

I just stumbled upon this thread. I am another one of those that fly for a living. Started off in the RAN on PC9s, then moved to AS350 Squirrels, then the Bell 206. From there I flew Seahawks embarked on ships, and then instructed a bit on Squirrels and Seahawks. Got out of the military a few years back and now fly and instruct on S92 helicopters in the off shore role. I have instructed basic students, as well as NVFR, MECIR and NVG.

So I have a PPL(A), with my fixed wing limited to PC9, SR20 and the PA44.

Helicopter wise I have an ATPL(H), having flown B206, AS350, AS355, BK117, S70 and currently the S92.

I have been told there are three stages to flying.
1. You will pay money to go flying.
2. You will only fly if somebody pays you.
3. You don't care if you fly, as long as somebody pays you.

I am somewhere between 2 and 3 at the moment.

Unfortunately I hit stage 3 some time ago. Time for something new I think.

[NT5224]

Here's my RAA rego'd Rebel.

Consider it the aerial equivalent of a Land Rover in terms of cruise speed and sophistication... But he flies straight and will set down anywhere.

And for my next mod I'm saving up for a lift kit and some big rubber...

Alan :)

[BigBlackDog]

I'm saving up for a lift kit and some big rubber...

Alan :)

New wings and a heavy duty rubber band to spin the prop?

[cripesamighty]

Alan, that looks like serious fun!!

[NT5224]

New wings and a heavy duty rubber band to spin the prop?

:D Ha ha! Actually the wings on the Rebel are one of its best features - Old school and very deep, giving lots of lift. One of the biggest challenges flying this thing is trying to make it return to earth, it wants to float forever -even with power off.

But a good rubber band would definitely be a power upgrade!

Reckon our Land Rovers drop oil? You should see a radial aero engine!!!

[HUE166]

:D

Reckon our Land Rovers drop oil? You should see a radial aero engine!!!

I used to fly a radial Dromader. We used to check the fuel and fill the oil regularly!:D

[JDNSW]

Or the Gipsy Major. My Auster had as permanent "ballast" two one gallon tins of oil - and on first starting after being in the hangar for a few weeks without use, you had to wait a few minutes for the smoke to disperse. The bottom of the fuselage was permanently oil coated. Normal consumption, one quart per hour.

John

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Thats a serious bit of gear---
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/97.jpg

[HUE166]

Or the Gipsy Major. My Auster had as permanent "ballast" two one gallon tins of oil - and on first starting after being in the hangar for a few weeks without use, you had to wait a few minutes for the smoke to disperse. The bottom of the fuselage was permanently oil coated. Normal consumption, one quart per hour.

John

Which model of Auster did you have John? I'm contemplating buying a MKIII but I know little about their maintenence. Was the Gypsy troublesome? What is their TBO? What is the average 100hrly worth?

[JDNSW]

Which model of Auster did you have John? I'm contemplating buying a MKIII but I know little about their maintenence. Was the Gypsy troublesome? What is their TBO? What is the average 100hrly worth?

I traded the Auster on a Cessna 180 in 1969, so I'm relying on distant memories - and even if I could remember prices, they would be irrelevant today.

My experience with the Gipsy Major was that it was trouble free, but I only owned it for about three years. I think the TBO was 1500hrs, but don't quote me on that. The only issue I can remember, and that was rare, was that sometimes the impulse drive on the magneto (left one I think) sometimes stuck, but was freed by a a whack with a spanner. You could tell there was a problem, because the sound of it is obvious when turning the engine - no loud click meant not enough spark to start.

Being an inverted engine, one pre-start check if it had been standing more than a few hours was to turn the engine through four compressions before trying to start, to make sure you did not have a hydraulic lock with oil that had found its way past the rings.

My Auster was a J5F Aiglet Trainer, VH-ADT, the aerobatic version. Last time I looked a few years ago it was still registered.

John

[superquag]

Thats a serious bit of gear---
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/97.jpg

Er. . . - Any relation to the one that lost it's head earlier this year, up in the Norway.. ? :(

[Hugh Jars]

I wish I had a helo licence :)
Learned to fly in a PA38 Traumahawk, then flew all sorts of singles- most of the 'modern' types on the GA register.
I flew mostly C310, Duchess and Chieftain piston twins.

Then I moved on to Jetstream 31/32, Dash 8/100/200/300. After that, Emb 170/190 and Boeing 737.
I really miss teaching, the youngest I taught was an 11 year old. She would have soloed at around 7 hours if she could have legally done so.
I'm at stage 3 on the scale :D

[superquag]

I read somewhere that the "ideal" age to learn to fly - co-ordination I'm guessing - is when the child/youth has mastered roller-skating.
Comments ?

[Hugh Jars]

Hi superquag,
In my experience, yes, between 11 and the late teens is an age where the kids' minds are like a sponge. I did work for the Airforce Cadets and was amazed at the speed of some of the kids' learning.

I sent many kids first solo on their 16th birthday. Even now, all these years later, those moments are some of the fondest memories I have of the industry.

My youngest trainee was 11 (as mentioned), my oldest 82. He was an ex-WW2 Spitfire pilot who used to come out to Bankstown for a jolly every couple of weeks. He knew he would never get his pilot licence back, but still enjoyed the thrill of flying. I felt privileged to be the one who got to fly with him :)

John.