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landoman
6th December 2013, 06:17 PM
Did a site search but found very little .....so here is my question

Has anyone out there fitted a genuine Landrover bull bar as can be sourced and fitted in Australia by Landrover Australia or its dealers ......................I am after the puplished specs for said bull bar ....particularly the weight of said bull bar in KG ?

AnD3rew
6th December 2013, 06:27 PM
Don't bother, unless you just like the look of it (and IMHO it's fugly) it will just add to the cost of the repair if you actually hit anything, it won't actually stop anything.

And it's expensive.

tonyci
6th December 2013, 06:37 PM
Not sure of the specs but have heard that the price is about to or has reduced, apparently the bar does not fit the MY14 model.
Ask a dealer for the specs.
Cheers
Tony

letherm
7th December 2013, 10:01 AM
I looked at the LR bar but decided to go with an ECB one. On order at the moment. It has been designed to be compatible with LR parking sensors and camera. Not to everyone's taste but I quite like the look of it. It comes in 4 "colours" - mirror polished alloy, silver hammertone, black ripple powdercoat, silver ripple powdercoat finishes. I went for the silver hammertone - I'm not into polishing bullbars :) It's costing me $2880 fitted from a dealer I've dealt with before.

Check the ECB web site below if you're interested.

Land Rover Discovery ECB Alloy Bullbars Nudge Bars Bull Bars Series Discovery 4 (http://www.ecb.com.au/vehicle.php?Make=19&Model=80&variant=920&SEARCH2.x=46&SEARCH2.y=9&SEARCH2=SEARCH)

Martin

Fred Nerk
7th December 2013, 11:37 AM
Earlier this week when I was driving home in the Adelaide Hills (near Houghton) I saw an oncoming D4, a dark colour possibly green. It had a bull bar that I had not seen before with the "LAND ROVER" letters across the top horizontal bar. It looked a nice bit of kit but was gone before I had a chance to see it properly. Not an ARB or OL or LR bar so perhaps it was an ECB.

I have the Opposite Lock bar on my D4 and it paid for itself on my first trip when I "nosed" into a sand dune when crossing the Simpson. (There was a soft sand filled hole in front of the dune and we dropped into it :eek: ) The bar was tilted back at the bottom by what was a pretty hard impact. The airbags did not deploy yet it was a decent thud. The gaps between the wheel arch flairs and the bar that everyone (else) complains about were reduced to touching by the impact. After the trip I took it back to OL where they removed the bar, checked the mountings and reinstalled as good as new. Happy with my OL Bar as it also has the cameras and sensors working without any problems.

letherm
7th December 2013, 12:59 PM
The only one I've seen with "Land Rover" on it is the genuine LR version. The ECB bar doesn't have Land Rover on it from the pictures I've seen. Find out when I get it I suppose.


Martin

jonesy63
7th December 2013, 01:08 PM
I've seen the Land Rover one at a local shopping centre - which seems to be entirely appropriate. :angel:

It appears to just be an alloy skin which sits in front of the plastic bumper bar. Very shiny - but I wouldn't trust its strength in a collision.

tonyci
7th December 2013, 02:12 PM
Another potential problem with the LR bar is the fact that it does not fit a winch.
I am looking at getting a bull bar would be happy with OL or ARB, the problem seems to be finding a store that sells and installs them correctly. Most places I have been to have never installed one or I have been warned not to go there.
Anybody happy with a bar install in Melbourne, if so who installed it.
Cheers
Tony

gghaggis
7th December 2013, 02:54 PM
A lot of "opinion" about the LR bar!!

I'm not saying it's any good, but maybe we should hear from someone who has one, or someone who's at least banged and prodded at one. I had a client on a recent training day with one - looked good (at least on his white car) and seemed sturdy enough.

Cheers,

Gordon

go-disco4
7th December 2013, 04:07 PM
Hi Tonyci

I had mine (ARB) installed at Ritter, Melbourne 3 years ago - Disco 4. Very good job. Been to many places with it now including Simpson and Vic High Country. No problems with it.

Speak to Craig Doreian

GD-4

go-disco4
7th December 2013, 04:08 PM
Hi Tonyci

I had mine (ARB) installed at Ritter, Melbourne 3 years ago - Disco 4. Very good job. Been to many places with it now including Simpson and Vic High Country. No problems with it.

Speak to Craig Doreian

GD-4

Meant to be ARB bar. Not sure why the emoticon got attached

GD-4

scarry
7th December 2013, 04:40 PM
Hi Tonyci

I had mine (ARB) installed at Ritter, Melbourne 3 years ago - Disco 4. Very good job. Been to many places with it now including Simpson and Vic High Country. No problems with it.

Speak to Craig Doreian

GD-4

I had an ARB bar fitted here in Brisbane,it was the ONLY issue on a 7500K central Aus trip.One of the lower lights(fog?) fell out :(

gghaggis
7th December 2013, 06:12 PM
Meant to be ARB bar. Not sure why the emoticon got attached

GD-4

An "8" followed by a ")" without a space is re-coded as a ":cool:"

Cheers,

Gordon

tonyci
7th December 2013, 06:29 PM
Hi Gordon
I agree the LR bar looks ok, but I am thinking of also mounting a winch,which the LR bar does not do.
Cheers
Tony

Goaroving
7th December 2013, 06:29 PM
Hi Tonyci I had mine (ARB) installed at Ritter, Melbourne 3 years ago - Disco 4. Very good job. Been to many places with it now including Simpson and Vic High Country. No problems with it. Speak to Craig Doreian GD-4

Ditto. Installed this year and very happy with the fit.

jon3950
7th December 2013, 06:50 PM
A lot of "opinion" about the LR bar!!

I'm not saying it's any good, but maybe we should hear from someone who has one, or someone who's at least banged and prodded at one. I had a client on a recent training day with one - looked good (at least on his white car) and seemed sturdy enough.

Cheers,

Gordon

I don't have one but have had a bit of a prod. Its an odd looking thing and certainly doesn't look as strong as an arb or ol bar - its alloy too of course. Big minus too is that it won't take winch.

Didn't get a good look at the chassis mounts but what does concern me is that the top of central hoop is very close to the grille and has a couple of brackets which bolt to the top of the panel in front of the radiator. I would be very concerned that in an impact this would go straight through the radiator. No real proof of course, someone needs to put a roo through one.

Just going on looks I wouldn't trust one and usually if something doesn't look right, it isn't.

Cheers,
Jon

JamesH
7th December 2013, 06:53 PM
Happy with my ARB bullbar. Have to say the fitting quality is exceptional. I was a bit skint and decided against the colour coding (Fuiji white). I'm glad I saved the money, the black bar looks 8)

I only wish I installed it before I hit that roo :-(

tonyci
7th December 2013, 07:15 PM
Thanks for the Ritters advice. I went on a LROCV organised 'hoods off ' day ran by Ritters , they seem like decent people to deal with.
Cheers
Tony

rufusking
17th December 2013, 08:21 AM
Was just checking used vehicle prices before I renewed my insurance and can across this D4 with a LR bullbar sitting in a Ford dealership in Wodonga

2013 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 4 HSE SERIES 4 L319 SDV6 USED VEHICLES IN STOCK Melbourne Ford and FPV dealer - Ford and FPV Dealership in Lavington and Wodonga (http://www.blacklocksford.com.au/cars-view.html?id=17673&car=2013-land-rover-discovery-4-hse-series-4-l319--sdv6)-

If anyone is in there area and wants to check out the LR bar and give feeedback, myself and others would appreciate it. Photos especially with regard to mounting and fit would be great.

Opps that should be their Lavington/Albury lot.

PJR
17th December 2013, 02:59 PM
Happy with my ARB bullbar. Have to say the fitting quality is exceptional. I was a bit skint and decided against the colour coding (Fuiji white). I'm glad I saved the money, the black bar looks 8)

I only wish I installed it before I hit that roo :-(
I have an ARB deluxe bar fitted which i am not totally happy with. The gap between the bar and the lights is 20mm - which the fitter told me is as close as they can get.
Can you tell me how big the gap is on yours.
Cheers

JamesH
17th December 2013, 05:13 PM
Will do but it's less than that. It does need a gap to allow the bar to move on corrugations. I'll post more info and a pic after work.

Since they cut the mudguards I'd say once it's done it's done and you'll have to live with it. Who knows maybe my gap isn't enough!

JamesH
17th December 2013, 10:15 PM
I have an ARB deluxe bar fitted which i am not totally happy with. The gap between the bar and the lights is 20mm - which the fitter told me is as close as they can get.
Can you tell me how big the gap is on yours.
Cheers

I went and checked. Unfortunately I couldn't get to it until after dark so photos I took aren't helpful. To answer your question, the gap going by finger feel and then measuring my finger size is 15mm.

Any WA people interested, the job was not done by ARB. The bar was installed after a roo strike, and the installation was subbed out by the recommended LR panel beater who managed the repairs. They said they were the only people they wanted to use. I was to leave it to them (the panel shop) and they would take responsibility for the install as part of the repairs. As I said I am very pleased with the result, it just looks right.

So who were they? The boss of the panel shop has a thick Italian accent and I thought he said West Coast Towbars, but they are in Rockingham and I reckon he may have said Westcott Towbars as they are much closer in Welshpool. If you need to know for sure, ask Lombardi Brothers panel beaters who hey use.

BMKal
18th December 2013, 09:24 AM
I went and checked. Unfortunately I couldn't get to it until after dark so photos I took aren't helpful. To answer your question, the gap going by finger feel and then measuring my finger size is 15mm.

Any WA people interested, the job was not done by ARB. The bar was installed after a roo strike, and the installation was subbed out by the recommended LR panel beater who managed the repairs. They said they were the only people they wanted to use. I was to leave it to them (the panel shop) and they would take responsibility for the install as part of the repairs. As I said I am very pleased with the result, it just looks right.

So who were they? The boss of the panel shop has a thick Italian accent and I thought he said West Coast Towbars, but they are in Rockingham and I reckon he may have said Westcott Towbars as they are much closer in Welshpool. If you need to know for sure, ask Lombardi Brothers panel beaters who hey use.

I've got exactly the same on mine (black ARB Deluxe winch bar on Fuji White D4) - fitted by ARB in Osborne Park, just up the road from Barbagallo.

I'm happy with the job they did installing mine. There's also about a 15mm gap - anything less than that is probably too close. They could possibly have cut the guards / wheel arches a little closer to the bar - I've seen closer fits there than mine, but still not unhappy with what I ended up with.

PJR
19th December 2013, 09:05 AM
Thanks James and BMKal.
I will go back to ARB and see if they can get a closer fit.
Cheers
Peter

Fred Nerk
19th December 2013, 06:29 PM
When my bar was installed I asked about "the gap". I was advised that if the gap is narrow the movement of the bar cause the wheel arch flairs to pop off.

Now I don't know if that is true, but when I hit a sand dune (pretty hard) and pushed the bar back a little, there was no gap left. I am sure the gap prevented body damage. The installers at OL realigned everything for me. Actually, I don't "mind the gap". No one else seems to notice it either.

jimc
20th December 2013, 02:00 PM
from memory...if you read the ARB bullbar fitting instructions, they say remove flare and cut..bend in support tab and paint the section black.

once painted black, you dont notice the shadow line at all.

JamesH
20th December 2013, 04:01 PM
from memory...if you read the ARB bullbar fitting instructions, they say remove flare and cut..bend in support tab and paint the section black.

once painted black, you dont notice the shadow line at all.

Mine has been finished with black plastic trim where they did the cut. Gap is about 15mm as I said and I def would not think it could be less than that.

SBD4
20th November 2014, 12:28 PM
In case anyone is interested in a LR bullbar, this landed in my inbox today:

http://emailmarketing.webqem.com/t/ViewEmail/y/EAD379ED01120FB6/55F1C9E3AA106CA62438807772DD75D1

BMKal
20th November 2014, 01:09 PM
In case anyone is interested in a LR bullbar, this landed in my inbox today:

http://emailmarketing.webqem.com/t/ViewEmail/y/EAD379ED01120FB6/55F1C9E3AA106CA62438807772DD75D1

I received the same.

But I certainly wouldn't be interested in one of those bars. I've seen them close up and I know what they cost. ;)

Redback
20th November 2014, 01:31 PM
I must say, that is a big discount, still ugly though:(

Boggs
20th November 2014, 02:10 PM
Received email today from Landy offering the MY14 compliant bar at $2675 fitted. Looks great but pictures deceptive. How strong is it?
I rang the main dealer in Perth and they couldn't tell me a damn thing about it, weight, has it got antenna tabs, winch compliant etc..


Rang ECB and theirs has still not been tested on an MY14 model and soon MY15 model no doubt (what's the issue?)
ARB still not released theirs that has been under development all year..


I'm getting roo shy!

LandyAndy
20th November 2014, 02:29 PM
Boggs.
I got mine done yesterday.MY14 D4,Opposite Lock winch bar.
Contact Toby at Opposite Lock,Bunbury.0897915717.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/208372-bullbar-2014-d4-4.html

Andrew

Boggs
20th November 2014, 02:41 PM
Not the first time I've heard good things about OL in Bunbury

LandyAndy
20th November 2014, 08:29 PM
Not the first time I've heard good things about OL in Bunbury

In the past the store was owned by a Land Rover enthusiast,no longer.
toby is great to deal with and they pride themselves on a job well done.I visited 2 other OL stores,they wernt keen of doing Land Rovers and one said he isnt interested at all in fitting a bar to a D4.
Have you visited Albany OL,heard a few good reports about their work,was on toyota gear though.
Andrew

tiddy
20th November 2014, 10:11 PM
In case anyone is interested in a LR bullbar, this landed in my inbox today:

http://emailmarketing.webqem.com/t/ViewEmail/y/EAD379ED01120FB6/55F1C9E3AA106CA62438807772DD75D1


It's not the most attractive front bar I've ever seen, but if it was colour coded, it might make it look at bit better.

At least it's a fairly reasonable ask & I guess no issues with warranty claims either.

Mr smokey
12th December 2014, 12:00 PM
Have a mate who has one fitted to his MY14. Chrome/shiney only apparently and no colour coding. Both he and I are not doing any 4wd to any great degree as we have ours as tow tugs. Must admit I would prefer a black arrangement on my Black Pack.

Trevor

Salt grinder
13th August 2016, 01:55 PM
A lot of "opinion" about the LR bar!!

I'm not saying it's any good, but maybe we should hear from someone who has one, or someone who's at least banged and prodded at one. I had a client on a recent training day with one - looked good (at least on his white car) and seemed sturdy enough.

Cheers,

Gordon
Hi Gordon
I'm researching all the pros and cons of the available bars for the D4 and I see your statement/question. Did you ever get any replies ? or have you had a closer inspection of the LR alloy bar, any comment ?

There are so many varying opinions about all the bars . . . . to me, price is not the initial consideration without being ridiculous, but I also don't want my LRD4 looking like a Prado, Cruiser or Patrol or Kenworth (with due respect to them who luvs those toys)