Kumho RoadVenture 834

[incisor]

Anyone fitted Kumho RoadVenture 834 tyres and have any opinion on them?

they look the goods for what i want but have had no experience with kumho's tyres except those on my hyundai and they have been fine...

dunlop adventurers were fine but they are now scolloping and rough to ride on.

[VladTepes]

I have Kumho RoadVenture AT's on the Defender.

These are great on-road and in the wet. Also good in sand and dirt, but tend to clog up in the mud due to relatively closed tread pattern.

The MT 834's have a more agressive tread pattern and would naturally be better in most off-road situations.

This agressive tread, however, would limit adhesion on-road in the wet and the tyres would wear more quickly. (I wonder how many KM's one could expect from these tyres ?)

My general experience of Kumho tyres on various vehicles has been positive with good wear rates and few punctures. Not that these characteristics will necessarily be shared by the 834 though.

I'd certainly be having a close look at the 834's when it comes time to replace the AT's. Of course, if I had another 5 rims......

What's the going price for the 834's and how does this compare to other similar tyres you have looked at ?

[incisor]

rang one place and was quoted 240 each fitted

havent had a chance to ring around

[incisor]

just found exatly what i wanted. sime konvoy's

Wide rugged tread pattern coupled with flat tread profile offers superb traction. Extended tread life. Tough nylon casing for maximum strength.

http://www.statetyres.com.au/images/tyre_photos/sime_images/konvoy.jpg

$160 each with tubes fitted...

am a happy boy!

[Phoenix]

8O $160 !!!

What is it, and where do you get it? I was looking at steeltreks, but they are $250 ea, that looks awsome !!!!

[incisor]

Originally posted by Phoenix
8O $160 !!!

What is it, and where do you get it? I was looking at steeltreks, but they are $250 ea, that looks awsome !!!!

is a 7.50 x 16 sime konvoy (conventional not radial)

only 8 left in this part of the world, dont know about availabilty down your way

they come in 8 and 12 ply

12 ply is about $195 but would shake the crap out of my shorty....

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Interesting choice "O Starless One"

were you after a traditional bar type tyre or just something "to suit"

:?:

[incisor]

i wanted an agressive tread pattern that could handle mud gravel and rock, ala whats on the roads where i hang out, with out the price tag attached to some of the radial m/t tyres.

the truck doesnt do that much hi-way work mainly getting from here to kenniworth, kilcoy, and beerburrum etc

real 7.50x16 bar treads are now almost non existant and really not what i was looking for as they are a little too slippery on the black stuff for me.

these look ideal, the longer i look at them the more they appeal to me.

hopefully they wont disappoint....

[fernockulated]

:roll: twas thinking that they look very similar to bar treads albeit with an extra groove and a wobbly bar, and slightly more "chunky",they look like they could be quite grippy in the squishy stuff!!!! 8) style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[incisor]

and here i was thinking they were a nice herringbone pattern... well almost

yeah they do look a little bar tready, but with the angled bars it should be a much better tyre for what i use the unit for

i hope style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Originally posted by fernockulated
:roll: twas thinking that they look very similar to bar treads albeit with an extra groove and a wobbly bar, and slightly more "chunky",they look like they could be quite grippy in the squishy stuff!!!! 8) style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

All the Tech forum guys are tearing their hair out at that description,,

but the rest of us nearly understand it 8O :!:

[Phoenix]

I love the look of them, I reakon that they would be GREAT in the mud.

what does being x-ply make any difference to???

This is beginning to look like a good option, 3 dealers in town should have them :twisted: (if there is any in stock)

[fernockulated]

8O gee, i thought i was in the general chat forum!!!!!! 8)



glad i could give someone a chuckle!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[incisor]

Originally posted by Phoenix
I love the look of them, I reakon that they would be GREAT in the mud.

what does being x-ply make any difference to???

This is beginning to look like a good option, 3 dealers in town should have them :twisted: (if there is any in stock)

1) Lower prce

2 ) toe in setting is different (radials have 0 deg toe in on a series landy)

3 ) Lower price

4 ) much chunkier tread pattern

5 ) Lower price

6 ) more rolling resistance than a radial

7 ) Lower price

8 ) less wear on your compressor as you only have to blow them up to 25 pound

9 ) Lower price

10 ) they should hide the sound of that worn diff just nice

[Phoenix]

OK, so I guess the price is a big thing 8)

Rolling resistance and noise are a given with a tread pattern like that.

Do the x-ply run at a lowwer pressure? what is the ride like, better or worse?

Does the construction of the tyre make any difference to wear, performance, safety etc?

Gee, i'm full of questions tonight.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

looks like they'd hide the sound of ACDC quite nicely
8O :wink:

[incisor]

as a general rule you run an equiv size radial 10lbs higher than a conventional

in a landy the ride isnt any different at all mate...

handling is of no consequence either at 80k.

leaving your self a little extra braking distance on a damp road might be advisable tho ..

i have driven em on everything from ballons to conventionals and the x-ply's do ride a little hard but they handle the knocks a little better as well.

these are what the old girls were built to get about on when it is all said and done.

[incisor]

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift
looks like they'd hide the sound of ACDC quite nicely
8O :wink:

at the right speed on the right bit of track you could get the right riff to get your self a sausage roll done dirt cheap!

[Phoenix]

Sounds like the goods. I might have to enquire further.

I was asking about ride because the missus has been complaining a bit about it, so the less that I have to pay the better, and if the ride is minimally different, then so be it.

Thanks for the info incisor. Much appreciated style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Phoenix]

Does anyone know if the Rhoden x grip is the same as the sime convoy?

Found it on the tyres4u webpage. Might just be the same pattern, but both are made in malaysia.

[incisor]

rhoden is a tyre manufacter in malaysia

3J --> RHODEN (M) SDN BHD --> PORT KLANG, SELANGOR --> DARUL EHSAN --> MALAYSIA

Sime looks like a different plant to Rhoden

Y6 --> SIME TYRES INTERNATIONAL (M) SDN BHD --> KEDAH --> --> MALAYSIA

http://www.tyres4u.com.au/product_details/treadinfo/images/rxgrip.gif

similar but not same going by siping

http://www.statetyres.com.au/images/tyre_photos/sime_images/konvoy.jpg

looks like it would go okay tho...

[Phoenix]

I noticed that, but it looks to be an almost identical pattern.

[incisor]

look again style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[incisor]

X-grip

Features & benefits:
Super heavy duty 14ply rating construction
Strong nylon fabric casing
Extra deep tread depth (14mm)
Aggressive traction lug pattern
High cut and chip resistant tread compound

14 ply!!!!!!!!

ride might be a little rough unless you carry 1 ton boulders style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

definetly not the same tyre

[Phoenix]

Mmm, missed the 14 ply bit, a little too thick for me, I'll be calling the guy today to ask about the sime tyres.

[Phoenix]

Just rang tyrepower, Sime Konvoy $136 a tyre, not bad at all :twisted:

[landrovermick]

Guys I originally wrote this last night but i couldnt get it to post ................................


Hmm guys this is the way i see it - with 7 years of tyre shop running in another life.

Kumho tyres - while they are great fitment to hyundai - and we used to have lots of trouble replacing them with exactly the same ones as came from factory.......

My Kumho 4x4 expetience has ALLWAYS left me cold and generally cose me money in warranty claims for out of round - making them near on impossible to balance. But things may have changed in the past 7 years.

[landrovermick]

Some tyre shops used to use the line that they are made by michelin....they may be by companies owned by michelin but they arent michelin product. BTW we also used to find that Michelin tyres fitted to Subaru never got the same mileage on the second set something about the diffrence of carbon black in the rubber mix from OE to general market tyres

Vlad I know you have em - and im glad they serve you well - but for mine you couldnt give me a kumho tyre ......

[landrovermick]

Sime - i noticed recently that sime tyres (not to be confused with simex) are alleging on the radio that they are tyre provider to the V8 supercars.... We used to see them as a low end tyre - which we made HUGE profit on - they cost Nothing with a capital N!.

For mine if I was looking for a Rag (ie not a steel radial) Id be looking at the Firestone SAT (if ya can still get it)

Kelly tyres also have some good cheap radials out at the moment - with tread patterns like some Euro Goodyears (kellys are made by Goodyear NZ)

But I tell ya what i like the lok of that rhodan - ill be letting landrover terry know about that - could be the goods for the S3 V8......It has a pattern nearly identical to the old Goodyear custom extra grip which was the same as the Olympic Road Track Major (may not be the right name )

I likes it i tells ya...............cant go wrong with 14ply !!!!!!

Mick

[incisor]

Well i got to see both the sime and the rhoden this morning

sime comes in 8 ply and 12 ply
rhoden comes in 8 ply and 14 ply

on the advice of the owner of the tyre shop i went with the sime 8ply

reasoning....

the konvoy has been around for years in the same form and he has never seen one back.

the rhoden xgrip is rebadged as a gt and a couple of other brands and he has had several back with side wall failures but said they had been to hell and back.

on a swb landy he wouldnt even consider putting a 12 or 14 ply on unless i was crossing sturts stony with a 2 ton ice box.

the 12 ply and 14 ply tyres transmit copious amounts of vibration back to the chassis.

the 12 ply and 14 ply tyres are okay on very heavily laden lwb or lwb with 4bdi diesel engines, but he has seen quite a few frame fractures from them esp on the rear crossmembers.

[incisor]

well i took the shorty for a belt around the traps tonite and i have to say i am inpressed.

yep the sime konvoys are noisy, about as noisy as rockets bar treads. You can hear the whine kick in at about 30-40mph and hit pavoroti pitch at 60mph.

bit more vibration transmitted into the cab as well on the highway, which i expected. This was much better after i lowered the tyre pressure from 28psi to 26psi on the fronts. left the rears at 28psi.

steering is way better i have to say, much lighter that with the 750r16 dunlop adventurers and i havent done the toe in adjustment yet for the cross-plys. might leave it alone i think style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

i am running modified rims that increase the track of the vehicle and that has decreased the rock and roll a fair bit.

offroad and the sime konvoys are way nice ....

hit some muddy tracks a few mile up the road from here and we just drove on thru like it wasnt there, the dunlop adventurers were everywhere, slipping and sliding when i tried them at the same spot on the weekend, immense improvement.

then off into the sand, didnt seem any worse than the dunlops and didnt have to let them down so they appear at least as good as the dunlops, but i expect they would dig in way quicker if you did start to go down.

off bribie and up to beerburrum and a rocky creek bed i played in a few weeks ago. truly marvellous improvement over the dunlop adventurers. nearly got myself into some trouble climbing out over the creek bank, am used to it slipping and the sime konvoys bit and nearly launched me into low orbit. Bump stops on the springs work style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

handling at speed seems very similar, but i didnt push the point.

no damp roads encountered so havent had a chance to check that out.

all in all i am pretty impressed i have got to say.

great value at $160 bucks each including new tubes fitted and balanced .

be interesting to see how many k's they last for.

[Phoenix]

Incisor (you knew this was coming didn't you :wink: ), could you keep track of performance and distance for a long term tyre test for the newsletter?

It would be an interesting read, especially over time, and for people like me looking to get them.

How bad was the highway noise compared to the old tyres?

[incisor]

mutter mutter.....

yeah okay i will TRY to keep a log....

noise, they are not quiet, nor would you expect them to be with that sort of tread pattern. they sound very similar to bar treads for some reason style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

i have heard cruisers go past with far louder noise that these were making tho.

[Phoenix]

I've often heard a strange humm noise all of a sudden, and looked to the right to see another vehicle go past. You really can hear more noise from outside through the soft top.

I had a ute go past one day with a palette ot files or something on the back wrapped in plastic (like big gladwrap). Whilst it was in my blind spot, I heard this huge "CRACK", I thought, oh no, here we go. But it was just the plastic where a piece had come loose and was flicking around in the wind.

[VladTepes]

Originally posted by Phoenix
Incisor (you knew this was coming didn't you :wink: ), could you keep track of performance and distance for a long term tyre test for the newsletter?

Incy - remeber this idea from Phoenix ?
How are the new tyres going ?
Enough for an article (even a brief one?)

[incisor]

Originally posted by VladTepes+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(VladTepes)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Phoenix
Incisor (you knew this was coming didn't you :wink: ), could you keep track of performance and distance for a long term tyre test for the newsletter?

Incy - remeber this idea from Phoenix ?
How are the new tyres going ?
Enough for an article (even a brief one?)[/b][/quote]

yep
very very good
slap!

suppose i could .......

[Phoenix]

You know I had completely forgotten about that style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

Might try and get Devil_Kin to write something about his konvoys as well, but I suspect that he is too lazy to do that.

You know, you would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for vlad Incisor style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[VladTepes]

I do what I can :wink:

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[incisor]

Originally posted by Phoenix
You know, you would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for vlad Incisor style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

one can only try....

i'm sure i can return the favour some time style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif