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Homestar
19th December 2013, 07:39 AM
Well, looking and listening at the news this morning you would think we have never had a hot day or 2 before in Australia. Channel 7 led with this story at 6am when I woke up and now listening to ABC radio, they are harping on about it as well. Channel 7 even reported live from Adelaide for "Day 2 of the heat wave". Really??? Am I just being a grumpy old man or does this just seem to be news to fill in some part of the media circus that is the 24 hour news cycle?

On top of this, Metro Trains are reducing services today in Melbourne as the system can't cope with temperatures this high. You would think that we could build infrastructure that can survive in our own climate, but apparently not.

It Summer peoples!!! It gets hot from time to time!!! This isn't news - we all know this!!!

Personally, I'm looking forward to Summer - as do most Melbournians I would think - it has been a more typical Winter than some we have had recently - cold and wet, so a nice hot Summer will do us good.

Geez - rant over :)

Babs.

Keithy P38
19th December 2013, 07:43 AM
You are right! This is Australia and its been hot every summer since I can remember! Heat waves every year too...

MBZ460
19th December 2013, 08:02 AM
Yes, it should not surprise anyone that its hot.
And getting hotter according to the trend (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/index.shtml#tabs=Tracker&tracker=timeseries&tQ%5Bgraph%5D=tmax&tQ%5Barea%5D=vic&tQ%5Bseason%5D=0112&tQ%5Bave_yr%5D=0)

Saitch
19th December 2013, 08:17 AM
Yes, it should not surprise anyone that its hot.
And getting hotter according to the trend (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/index.shtml#tabs=Tracker&tracker=timeseries&tQ%5Bgraph%5D=tmax&tQ%5Barea%5D=vic&tQ%5Bseason%5D=0112&tQ%5Bave_yr%5D=0)
Geez!
A veritable "Ice Age" between the early 40's to late 60's
:D

richard4u2
19th December 2013, 08:55 AM
unfortunately with the younger generation their memory does not exist beyond arms length of their brain space

vnx205
19th December 2013, 09:10 AM
Maybe it gets reported because it is now being recognised as an important issue. In fact it can be a life threatening issue.

Heat Stress in a Warming World | Australasian Science Magazine (http://www.australasianscience.com.au/article/issue-december-2010/heat-stress-warming-world.html)

The dangers of sequential days and nights with elevated temperatures, referred to as heat waves, are well-known by communities and authorities in Australia. For example, in southern Australia during the record-breaking heat wave that led to the devastating “Black Saturday” bushfires of 2009, more lives were claimed by heat stress than by the fires themselves.

A high profile heat wave in western Europe killed more than 35,000 people during 2 weeks in the summer of 2003.

Most of the deaths caused by such heat waves are among the elderly, but it is noteworthy that more than 1000 of these deaths in the 2003 heat wave were among people aged 35–64. The European and Australian events also reflect another global pattern: many people who die from heat stress live outside the tropics even though the average climate is mild compared with the tropics. (My emphasis)

Extreme heat is not something to be ignored or dismissed lightly. While you and I might like the Summer heat, it kills some people.

Collins
19th December 2013, 09:16 AM
Nice to see summer at last.
Yes, the media certainly likes to make a great fuss over what is expected during summer.
The majority of our infrastructure is not designed to cope with weather events outside of a very narrow range of parameters. Rail lines that buckle in the heat, drainage systems that cannot handle anything greater than an occasional cloudburst.

Chucaro
19th December 2013, 09:22 AM
36 in Hobart!! It would be interesting which will be today the beer consumption in the east coast of Oz.

Mick_Marsh
19th December 2013, 09:39 AM
Nice to see summer at last.
Yes, the media certainly likes to make a great fuss over what is expected during summer.
The majority of our infrastructure is not designed to cope with weather events outside of a very narrow range of parameters. Rail lines that buckle in the heat, drainage systems that cannot handle anything greater than an occasional cloudburst.
The rail system used to have expansion gaps. Now they're continuous without room for expansion. That is why they're more prone to buckling in the heat.

I was in Adelaide a few years ago when they had six consecutive days above forty. One of those days topped forty five. Judging by the news reports, if this happened in Melbourne, the City would go into meltdown.

disco gazza
19th December 2013, 09:41 AM
Just had a thought....
Seeing as we seem to be getting all these middle east people over here as so called refugees,I wonder if there bringing there hot summer weather with them...
It does get up to the 50's during summer over there...:wasntme:


cheers

101RRS
19th December 2013, 09:46 AM
Am I just being a grumpy old man

Yep - you said it ;)

I know all about being a grumpy old man :)

DiscoMick
19th December 2013, 09:54 AM
I see the USA has just had its hottest decade on record - maybe climate change is real?

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d2dave
19th December 2013, 10:08 AM
maybe climate change is real?


Yep, sure is. Has been happening for thousands of years.

carjunkieanon
19th December 2013, 10:08 AM
unfortunately with the younger generation their memory does not exist beyond arms length of their brain space

I was going to write a comment in response to this, but in the time it took to load the reply page I forgot what I was going to say.

:D

bigdog
19th December 2013, 10:13 AM
I see the USA has just had its hottest decade on record - maybe climate change is real?

The reality is that we are still coming out of the last Ice Age. There are remnants of glaciers around the world that are diminishing, and they will dissappear. Sea levels will rise.

The question should be, how much are we contributing to global warming i.e. accelerating it, because we sure as hell arn't causing it...?

cooperrat
19th December 2013, 10:14 AM
I've believe its got something to do with the weather !!!!!!

d2dave
19th December 2013, 10:21 AM
Personally, I'm looking forward to Summer - as do most Melbournians I would think - it has been a more typical Winter than some we have had recently - cold and wet, so a nice hot Summer will do us good.

Geez - rant over :)

Babs.

One of the reasons I left Melb was to get decent summers. Over the years I reckon that Melb summers are no where as hot as they used to be.

When I lived in Melb we used to holiday at Nagambie, 45 km south of where I now live.

We always noticed in most cases how much better the weather was there.

So my criteria for leaving Melb was to go Nth of the great dividing range.

rover-56
19th December 2013, 11:50 AM
The rail system used to have expansion gaps. Now they're continuous without room for expansion. That is why they're more prone to buckling in the heat.

I was in Adelaide a few years ago when they had six consecutive days above forty. One of those days topped forty five. Judging by the news reports, if this happened in Melbourne, the City would go into meltdown.

Happened in Melb in 2009

I just heard on a local radio news service that some rail services will shut down if the temp. goes over 38 "because the rails soften when they get hot"???????

I almost didn't believe my ears a few years ago when I heard that rails are now continuous welded. Are people now wondering why they buckle in the heat?

When I came to Aus. as a young teenager in the mid 50's there were multiple days of around 100 deg.F in Melbourne every summer. 40+deg C now is nothing new.

Still loving it:D

Terry

goingbush
19th December 2013, 02:54 PM
no one noticed that a new record was set for the coldest day ever recorded on the planet, from an article a few days ago 93.2 (c) below .

New mark set for the coldest temperature ever recorded | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/new-mark-set-for-the-coldest-temperature-ever-recorded/story-e6frflp0-1226779779754)

loanrangie
19th December 2013, 02:55 PM
Is it hot, i dont know, been floating around the pool on a ring ;).

BigJon
19th December 2013, 03:01 PM
I was in Adelaide a few years ago when they had six consecutive days above forty. One of those days topped forty five. Judging by the news reports, if this happened in Melbourne, the City would go into meltdown.

A few years ago I was living in Alice Springs and we had 18 consecutive days over 40 degrees. Nobody batted an eyelid.

loanrangie
19th December 2013, 03:02 PM
One of the reasons I left Melb was to get decent summers. Over the years I reckon that Melb summers are no where as hot as they used to be.

When I lived in Melb we used to holiday at Nagambie, 45 km south of where I now live.

We always noticed in most cases how much better the weather was there.

So my criteria for leaving Melb was to go Nth of the great dividing range.

I agree Dave, as a kid up till i was 17 we had a farm at Tocumwal on the Murray and i clearly remember summer being unbearably hot for 3 months straight and often over 40 c for most of that time.
We would always notice the weather change as we got over the divide .

Hall
19th December 2013, 03:24 PM
Ah good to see that I`m not the only one who thinks the media are a bunch of drama queens beating up a story of how hot it is when it is just a normal summer cycle. Re minds me of the boy who cried wolf. Every one will get inured to the constant over dramatising of the weather and won`t listen or take notice when it really matters.
Cheers Hall

JDNSW
19th December 2013, 03:29 PM
...
When I came to Aus. as a young teenager in the mid 50's there were multiple days of around 100 deg.C in Melbourne every summer. 40+deg C now is nothing new.

Still loving it:D

Terry

I suspect you mean 100 deg F! But yes. The first day I visited Melbourne in January 1960 it was 105 deg F. And there was very little airconditioning then - nowhere except in movie theatres, pretty much. (That same day it was 108 deg F in Adelaide!)

John

Mick_Marsh
19th December 2013, 03:35 PM
A few years ago I was living in Alice Springs and we had 18 consecutive days over 40 degrees. Nobody batted an eyelid.
Can't remember which year it was but, I'm sure it was fifteen days over forty. Can't find anything about it though.

V8Ian
19th December 2013, 03:48 PM
Is it hot, i dont know, been floating around the pool on a ring ;).
We're not interested in your anatomy thanks LR. :p

KarlB
19th December 2013, 03:53 PM
People's anecdotes are very interesting and I too recall horrific summers growing up in the western suburbs of Sydney (Penrith) in the late 1950s and 1960s. However, I think the Bureau of Meteorology has recently published some informative reports on this heat subject:

Special Climate Statement 46 – Australia’s warmest September on record (see http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/statements/scs46.pdf (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/statements/scs46.pdf))
Special Climate Statement 45 - a prolonged autumn heatwave for southeast Australia (see http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/statements/scs45.pdf (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/statements/scs45.pdf))
Special Climate Statement 43 – extreme heat in January 2013 (see http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/statements/scs43e.pdf (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/statements/scs43e.pdf))
You will find other reports here: http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/special-statements.shtml (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/special-statements.shtml).

Sometimes it gets so hot I just can't think straight!

Cheers
KarlB
:redface:

KarlB
19th December 2013, 04:06 PM
Can't remember which year it was but, I'm sure it was fifteen days over forty. Can't find anything about it though.

Here it is (again from BOM):

A heat wave early in January [2013] was exceptional in its extent and duration affecting most of Australia. In the southern NT, Alice Springs broke the record for the longest streak of days above 40 °C. From the 1st to the 17th inclusive, daytime temperatures at the Alice Springs airport rose over the 40 °C mark, surpassing the previous record streak of 12 days over 40 °C set in 2006. Although Alice Springs failed to break the record of the hottest January day set in 1960 with 45.2 °C, it manage to break the January mean maximum temperature record with 40.1 °C. This is 0.1 degrees warmer than the previous record of 40.0 °C set in January 2006. To the south of Alice Springs, Yulara Aero managed to surpass the 44.0 °C mark 10 days in a row (4th to the 13th inclusive), breaking their previous record streak of days above 44.0 °C of four days set in 1998.

Full report is here: Northern Territory in January 2013 (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/nt/archive/201301.summary.shtml)

Cheers
KarlB
:)

Basil135
19th December 2013, 04:46 PM
Just watching the arvo news, which I dont normally, and the headline:

Sydney set for a scorcher... 7 days above 30 degrees. :o

Just for the record, in Adelaide yesterday, it was 41, today 44, tomorrow around 38ish. Doesn't rate a murmur. :cool:


Its the firefighters I feel for. Those sorts of temps, and wearing full kit while battling grass & scrub fires. :(

goingbush
19th December 2013, 04:59 PM
Found the best site to get instant obs of the temps all over Australia at a glance

http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/meteye/

Homestar
19th December 2013, 05:12 PM
Well, hasn't this kicked on since I started it this morning while waiting for my latte...:D

Wasn't talking about climate change, but I knew someone would bring that up. The fire issue is another story, but not the intent of my rant. I just can't get over all the pussies whining about how hot it is on the I first warm day of Summer. I was in central Vic today, and it was in the low 40's, home now and about to have a shower and a few cold ales. Yes it was warm, and being outside for hours on end was a bit sweaty, but it's not headline material for ****s sake...:D

'Extra, Extra, fat middle aged man has sweaty feet on first hot day of Summer!' - I'm pretty sure that won't make the news, but essentially that's what they are saying.

Knobs...

Mick_Marsh
19th December 2013, 05:14 PM
Just watching the arvo news, which I dont normally, and the headline:

Sydney set for a scorcher... 7 days above 30 degrees. :o

Just for the record, in Adelaide yesterday, it was 41, today 44, tomorrow around 38ish. Doesn't rate a murmur. :cool:


Its the firefighters I feel for. Those sorts of temps, and wearing full kit while battling grass & scrub fires. :(
WA had it worse for the test.

That's right, no one cares about WA.

d2dave
19th December 2013, 05:15 PM
According to BOM it was 39.5 at 6 pm and forecast tomorrow is 41 for my place.

Mick_Marsh
19th December 2013, 05:18 PM
Well, hasn't this kicked on since I started it this morning while waiting for my latte...:D

Wasn't talking about climate change, but I knew someone would bring that up. The fire issue is another story, but not the intent of my rant. I just can't get over all the pussies whining about how hot it is on the I first warm day of Summer. I was in central Vic today, and it was in the low 40's, home now and about to have a shower and a few cold ales. Yes it was warm, and being outside for hours on end was a bit sweaty, but it's not headline material for ****s sake...:D

'Extra, Extra, fat middle aged man has sweaty feet on first hot day of Summer!' - I'm pretty sure that won't make the news, but essentially that's what they are saying.

Knobs...
NEWS!
That reminds me. Must watch the news. Guaranteed they'll be playing footage of bikini clad babes frolicking on the beach.

rover-56
19th December 2013, 05:25 PM
Its the firefighters I feel for. Those sorts of temps, and wearing full kit while battling grass & scrub fires. :(

Actually, that yellow kit we wear isn't too bad - it's loose and breathes (and stops some of the radiant heat)

Terry

vnx205
19th December 2013, 05:51 PM
. Yes it was warm, and being outside for hours on end was a bit sweaty, but it's not headline material for ****s sake...:D

'Extra, Extra, fat middle aged man has sweaty feet on first hot day of Summer!' - I'm pretty sure that won't make the news, but essentially that's what they are saying.

Knobs...

It's not news because fat men get sweaty feet. It's news because it has the potential to cause a significant number of deaths.

Since no-one seems to have read what I posted before, I will repeat it.



Heat Stress in a Warming World | Australasian Science Magazine

The dangers of sequential days and nights with elevated temperatures, referred to as heat waves, are well-known by communities and authorities in Australia. For example, in southern Australia during the record-breaking heat wave that led to the devastating “Black Saturday” bushfires of 2009, more lives were claimed by heat stress than by the fires themselves.

A high profile heat wave in western Europe killed more than 35,000 people during 2 weeks in the summer of 2003.

Most of the deaths caused by such heat waves are among the elderly, but it is noteworthy that more than 1000 of these deaths in the 2003 heat wave were among people aged 35–64. The European and Australian events also reflect another global pattern: many people who die from heat stress live outside the tropics even though the average climate is mild compared with the tropics. (My emphasis)

Extreme heat is not something to be ignored or dismissed lightly. While you and I might like the Summer heat, it kills some people.

Surely something that has in the past killed people is newsworthy!

Homestar
19th December 2013, 06:02 PM
It's not news because fat men get sweaty feet. It's news because it has the potential to cause a significant number of deaths.

Since no-one seems to have read what I posted before, I will repeat it.




Surely something that has in the past killed people is newsworthy!

Yeah, yeah - I get that, but isn't that what the Weather forecast is for? Do people need to be told 100 times an hour it's hot? Stick your head out a window... Does telling everybody about it make it any cooler?

There are plenty of other things that kill thousands of people a year that don't make the news either.

amtravic1
19th December 2013, 06:17 PM
I like the heat. I just work a little slower and drink a lot more. The best part is most people stay off the roads and hide somewhere cool. It is much easier to get around Melbourne when it is 40 degrees plus!

Basil135
19th December 2013, 06:21 PM
WA had it worse for the test.

That's right, no one cares about WA.

We in SA care for our neighbours... :D


Well, more like, "Oh crapola, we are going to get that" :P


But we care.:ehigh5:

d2dave
19th December 2013, 06:27 PM
NEWS!
That reminds me. Must watch the news. Guaranteed they'll be playing footage of bikini clad babes frolicking on the beach.

And buckled train lines. Then there might be the "fry an egg on a man hole cover" story:)

d2dave
19th December 2013, 06:31 PM
Well, hasn't this kicked on since I started it this morning while waiting for my latte...:D

Wasn't talking about climate change, but I knew someone would bring that up. The fire issue is another story, but not the intent of my rant.


Gav, you seem to be good at it. Remember the thread recently about sitting in a caravan park with the grey nomads in their vans watching tv. Boy did that thread go places and start some arguments.

vnx205
19th December 2013, 06:57 PM
Yeah, yeah - I get that, but isn't that what the Weather forecast is for? Do people need to be told 100 times an hour it's hot? Stick your head out a window... Does telling everybody about it make it any cooler?

There are plenty of other things that kill thousands of people a year that don't make the news either.
Name three. :p

Heat waves kill more people than sharks. Which one gets the most news coverage?

When it gets very hot people die.

Mick_Marsh
19th December 2013, 06:58 PM
Yep. Gav certainly is a trouble maker.
The cool change went through here a while ago. It's a very pleasant thirty one outside.

Homestar
19th December 2013, 07:39 PM
Heat waves kill more people than sharks. Which one gets the most news coverage?

When it gets very hot people die.

I'm not disputing that, but my intention of the thread was a light hearted stab at the awful media and their insane appetite to fulfill their needs for a 24 hour news cycle. You wanted to turn the thread serious, so you posted what you wanted to - I have no problem with that, threads go off course here pretty much every time, but I'm just posting what I want to keep the thread light hearted.

No offence meant, apologies if I caused this.

Cheers - Babs.:)

justinc
19th December 2013, 07:51 PM
36 here today, didn't even notice. Was too busy but did hear a few people whining about how hot it was...:twisted:

Bah! Just get on with it !

When I was over west, we used to work away in 40+, day in, day out and sometimes 45 + but hey, just hydrate, don't overexert and deal with it.

'Winter makes me hurt, summer makes me work :)'

This is what it is all about....

GANGgajang - Sounds Of Then (This Is Australia) - YouTube

JC

weeds
19th December 2013, 07:58 PM
Couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread.......the news highlighting the high temps prompted me to ring my elderly grandmother who lives on her own just to make sure she was OK, she was sitting in front of a fan with a spray bottle

vnx205
19th December 2013, 07:58 PM
I enjoy a bit of gratuitous media bashing as much as the next person, but I think there are better examples. In fact there are more examples than you can poke a stick at almost every day. :)

No offence was caused, so no apology is needed. :D

My excuse for injecting a few facts into the discussion was that the tone of some of the responses (or at least my perception of the tone) made me believe that some people were taking things seriously and that blinded me to the lighthearted intention of your original post. :)

Anyway that is my story and I'm sticking to it.
:D:D:D

vnx205
19th December 2013, 08:06 PM
Couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread.......the news highlighting the high temps prompted me to ring my elderly grandmother who lives on her own just to make sure she was OK, she was sitting in front of a fan with a spray bottle

It's interesting that you should post that.

Before Bacicat reminded me that it was just a bit of a dig at the media, I was all fired up to present another argument.

I had planned to propose a hypothetical involving someone hearing about record temperatures on the other side of the country and suggesting that it might prompt them to take a little more interest than usual in the welfare of an elderly relative.

In that case, the reports about the record temperatures could have a life saving potential.

laney
19th December 2013, 08:30 PM
Bring on summer the hotter the better love the heat get a bit in Toowoomba but not in Warrnambool where Iwas brought up .

loanrangie
19th December 2013, 09:14 PM
We're not interested in your anatomy thanks LR. :p

As i typed that i was wondering what responses i would get ;).

Sitec
19th December 2013, 09:47 PM
I'm with you Gav... So it got hot today...! Whoopty doo!! The new trams in Adelaide are useless in heat, so its hardly a surprise that they stopped!!! I spent most of the day today in the metalwork shop where it was 46 deg for a while... and I spent 10 hrs on the fireground chasing fire at Monarto yesterday..., and I loved it all! Been here 6 yrs and seem to have acclimatised better than my workmates! Love it!! :D

Chops
19th December 2013, 10:27 PM
Gav, I'm considered a "cranky old man" these days too. :D Know exactly where your coming from dude ;)


I was going to write a comment in response to this, but in the time it took to load the reply page I forgot what I was going to say.

:D

:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:


I like the heat. I just work a little slower and drink a lot more. The best part is most people stay off the roads and hide somewhere cool. It is much easier to get around Melbourne when it is 40 degrees plus!

It used to be common sense,, ;)

People are off the road because they've worked it into the system to go home at 35/36deg (its around there somewhere). Bunch of pussies that cant drink a bit more, or think about what their doing to still work and be safe.
It seems any excuse to get off work early. No wonder the counties going broke,, two rostered days a month,, too wet, go home,, too hot, go home.

benji
20th December 2013, 10:42 AM
To true, there does seem to be a lack of common sense. There were a few taken to the bendigo hospital yesterday - because they were eldely AND PLAYING GOLF AT 2PM. If it's 40 you need to start looking out for yourself. ... don't be a dumb bum!

I do remember working at Brown Brother's winery a few years ago though. That morning we had spin-drift off Mt Buffalo, and was 44 that afternoon - that was a hard day.

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mattadelaide1975
20th December 2013, 11:06 AM
What its been hot here in Adelaide? really didnt notice... I thought it was just normal.

The only complaint I have is going from client to client for my work, and you step inside their offices and its like an igloo... why do people insist on setting their airconditioners to the "Holy Crap I need to have icycles growing on the aircon outlets" setting?

25 people is the optimal comfortable setting for airconditioners (or so an Aircon Tech told me years ago).... best economical setting for power draw as well.

If people are whining about the temp after 2 days, what are they going to be like once we have a whole week of high temps?

Cheers

Matt

bigdog
20th December 2013, 12:11 PM
Can't remember which year it was but, I'm sure it was fifteen days over forty. Can't find anything about it though.

I lived in Adelaide from late 2002 into 2003. I'm sure we had 17 days over 40DegC that summer? Hottest day was 46 (Elizabeth) and it was more comfortable sitting in the car with windows up and the aircon on than it was in the house.

It was a great excuse to leave work early and take the kids to the beach.

Roverlord off road spares
20th December 2013, 12:34 PM
When the TV stations show the crowds at the beach cooling off, can't see how lying on a beach of hot sand and sunbaking is cooling off. And why aren't all these people at work;););)
I wonder how much nipple cancer there is after lying on a beach with those parts exposed:D

Barra1
20th December 2013, 01:20 PM
Gav, I'm considered a "cranky old man" these days too. :D Know exactly where your coming from dude ;)

Yep. I second that:p

Leanne is a saint;) A very patient saint:eek:

KarlB
20th December 2013, 01:27 PM
I lived in Adelaide from late 2002 into 2003. I'm sure we had 17 days over 40DegC that summer? Hottest day was 46 (Elizabeth) and it was more comfortable sitting in the car with windows up and the aircon on than it was in the house.

It was a great excuse to leave work early and take the kids to the beach.
Unless you know more about the temperature records of Adelaide than BOM, then I suspect you may have had a bit of sun stroke.

Adelaide [in 2008] had 15 consecutive days of 35°C2 or above and 13 consecutive days of 37.8°C or above, breaking the previous records of 8 and 7 days respectively. These are both records for any Australian capital city, although much longer runs have occurred at inland locations, both in South Australia (e.g. 46 days of 35°C or above at Marree from 30 December 2000 to 13 February 2001) and elsewhere (e.g. 200 days of 35°C or above at Marble Bar, Western Australia, from 5 October 1923 to 21 April 1924).

These temperatures and durations may well have broken new levels since then (and I suspect they have) but I haven't bothered to check.

As for Elizabeth temperatures (at Edinburgh RAAF), highest recorded seems to be 46.22 on 3 Jan 1982 with 45.02 on 5 Jan 2003. Figures are very similar for Parafield.

Cheers
KarlB

Davo
20th December 2013, 01:44 PM
We were the hottest town in Australia this last October. Fitzroy Crossing breaks national October temperature record - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-31/fitzroy-crossing-breaks-national-october/5062408) I was working on the Rangie rebuild in our little hot brick carport every day, thinking it was a bit warm . . . I only learned of the heatwave afterwards from the news. :D

KarlB
20th December 2013, 02:43 PM
We were the hottest town in Australia this last October. Fitzroy Crossing breaks national October temperature record - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-31/fitzroy-crossing-breaks-national-october/5062408) I was working on the Rangie rebuild in our little hot brick carport every day, thinking it was a bit warm . . . I only learned of the heatwave afterwards from the news. :D
Just for your interest Davo, Fitzroy Crossing temperature summary data is here: Highest Temperature - 003093 - Bureau of Meteorology (http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=40&p_display_type=dataFile&p_stn_num=003093)


Cheers
KarlB

DiscoMick
20th December 2013, 04:39 PM
This is nothing. I lived in Bangkok for three years where the minimum was ALWAYS at least four degrees above the maximum in Brisbane. So, for example, if it was 22-30 in Brisbane it would be 34-40 in Bangkok. Thank God for air-con.:cool:
When it dropped below 25 the Thais would break out their wooly jumpers and scarves and complain about how cold it was. :D Meanwhile, I'd be wandering about in a short-sleeved shirt. I took a wooly jumper to Bangkok and didn't wear it for three years.
I'll believe its getting hot here when Aussies start copying the Thais and ordering their beer with a glass of ice.;)

djam1
20th December 2013, 04:52 PM
Got up to 47 Degrees here on Melbourne Cup Day this year.
It was a hard day I worked 14 hours that day and most of it in the sun.

Heat waves kill people because we are told not to have salt on anything really bad advice!

Barra1
20th December 2013, 06:36 PM
Pedro, if I add you to my friends, send you 37 slabs of XXXX Bitter and arrange a date with Liz (Shane is not around anymore) will you forward me the "deleted, but GOOD, post"?

oldyella 76
20th December 2013, 07:31 PM
When I was a kid going to secondary school in Bendigo. The recording station then was between the school and the goal on a green lawn. On the east side was the park with lawns and large trees. The station was read by the inmates.
Now the recording station is at the Beidigo airfield in a dry 1000 acre paddock between two runways. Wonder if that has any bearing? When I was 19 there were 10 days of over 100 f. with one day up north near Sea Lake got to 116 f
it was just a heatwave then I suppose Global Warming/ Climate Change now.
Yes, there were also a lot of deaths over 100,000 chooks died due to heat stress around Bendigo. Gee wouldn't Animals Australia go bonkers now!
And in regard to sea levels rising when the 1 st people turned up they walked from PNG all the way to Tassie because it all joined. Now the sea depth in Bass straight is about 70 metres, and Broome was 200 ks from the then coast.
Go figure , us oldies can still remember.
Lindsay.

justinc
20th December 2013, 08:11 PM
I find humidity harder to take than dry heat.

Working East of Hedland it was worse driving west toward the coast than it was in the interior with those desert easterlies off the Great Sandy.


JC

d2dave
20th December 2013, 08:54 PM
I find humidity harder to take than dry heat.

JC

I think a lot would agree. This what makes our heat down south bearable.

As the temp goes up the humidity goes down.

Today where I live it was 40 degrees at 12.30pm. The humidity was 10%

Yesterday 39.8 at 2.00 pm Hum. 12%

scarry
20th December 2013, 09:24 PM
Haven't had a real hot summer here for years.
We used to get a good few weeks of 36 to 37's,and a week or so of 40.
But not for the last 7 or 8 yrs.
Maybe it is on it's way....