Dual trade elec/instro

[rovercare]

Anyone here done it? more importantly post elec apprenticeship and even more by correspondance? Just trying to find the most suitable place/course

[Tombie]

Low voltage plumber hey :)

[rovercare]

Low voltage plumber hey :)


Its a very useful attribute on the CV, I'll spend plenty of time with the instro's here in PNG and have done a fair bit on other jobs, just try to make it official:D

[Mick_Marsh]

So you're after the dual ticket, real volts and poofter volts.

[rovercare]

So you're after the dual ticket, real volts and poofter volts.

Pillow biter, goes both ways, haha

[Pinelli]

I've got one ex student with the dual quals, and another starting. Both speak highly of the course. They both work for the local sugar mill, and are doing their training through the local TAFE in Mackay (now part of CQUnuversity)

[blitz]

dual trade certainly opens more doors. I'm a dual trade fridgy/sparky with lots of instrumentation experience and if I stay on the tools will look at instrumentation qual.

[weeds]

We just put one of our electricians through instrumentation than he left.......a bit of a learning curve for us to ensure we get return on our investment

[Sparksdisco]

I start my instro next week. looking forward to it.

I probably can do most of the stuff but it will be good to have the piece of paper.

after all being an instro is just a glorified gauge tapper.

Also it opens up a lot of oil and gas jobs.

our company get's us to sign a document stating that after doing instro you can't leave for a year. I haven't signed anything yet hope to slip under the radar for that one.

[Mick_Marsh]

I start my instro next week. looking forward to it.

I probably can do most of the stuff but it will be good to have the piece of paper.

after all being an instro is just a glorified gauge tapper.

Also it opens up a lot of oil and gas jobs.

our company get's us to sign a document stating that after doing instro you can't leave for a year. I haven't signed anything yet hope to slip under the radar for that one.
Get your Hazardous Area Certification as well.

[Kevin B]

So you're after the dual ticket, real volts and poofter volts.

Define "poofter volts"...

[Mick_Marsh]

Define "poofter volts"...
I don't have the relevant Australian Standard at my fingertips at the moment and, as you are aware, the Australian Standard differs from the IEEE and ISO standards slightly but, from memory (IEEE standard):

EHV (Extra High Voltage) - above 132kV
HV (High Voltage) - above 36kV up to 132kV
MV (Medium Voltage) - above 1000V up to 36kV
LV (Low Voltage) - above 50V up to 132kV
ELV (Extra Low Voltage) - up to 50V
PV (Poofter Voltage) - anything instro's do (usually up to 5V or 10V.)

[Sparksdisco]

Get your Hazardous Area Certification as well.

That's next on the list Mick.

but ill have to do that one out of my own pocket as the company wont do it.:mad:

[Sparksdisco]

Define "poofter volts"...

if you you test your loop in parallel when you have it set to milliamps you meter goes "POOF" :p:p:p

[rovercare]

dual trade certainly opens more doors. I'm a dual trade fridgy/sparky with lots of instrumentation experience and if I stay on the tools will look at instrumentation qual.

Have you done much with HVAC systems and PLC control?

[blitz]

Have you done much with HVAC systems and PLC control?

heaps - many moons ago I used to write HVAC and BMS software programs for Honeywell

[scarry]

Honeywell

Ahhhh,wonderful people to work with....:):mad:

Sad thing is lots of dual traders in our game,but very few,if any actually,know what they are doing in both trades.
Each trade needs many,many years of experience to get good at it,then throw in all the changes that are continually occurring.
Sure they may have the bit of paper,but that is about it.

[rovercare]

heaps - many moons ago I used to write HVAC and BMS software programs for Honeywell

What about the refrigerant side? They were/are after an ac tech, 1/4mill a year for 6 months work

[rovercare]

Ahhhh,wonderful people to work with....:):mad:

Sad thing is lots of dual traders in our game,but very few,if any actually,know what they are doing in both trades.
Each trade needs many,many years of experience to get good at it,then throw in all the changes that are continually occurring.
Sure they may have the bit of paper,but that is about it.

Plenty of single traders out there no good at their trade, so what's the difference?:D

[blitz]

What about the refrigerant side? They were/are after an ac tech, 1/4mill a year for 6 months work

where the hell is the job, I'm looking at a fifo for about $200K a year but horrid roster for a family man

[blitz]

Ahhhh,wonderful people to work with....:):mad:

Sad thing is lots of dual traders in our game,but very few,if any actually,know what they are doing in both trades.
Each trade needs many,many years of experience to get good at it,then throw in all the changes that are continually occurring.
Sure they may have the bit of paper,but that is about it.

35 years in the game and I'm still learning ;)

[scarry]

Plenty of single traders out there no good at their trade, so what's the difference?:D

Agree,but with dual trade,then you have people incompetent in two trades:(

does not make any sense to me....

[rovercare]

where the hell is the job, I'm looking at a fifo for about $200K a year but horrid roster for a family man

I'm 28/28 its in PNG, I can give you a few contractors names and some info and who they need to prompt, if you have had any oil and gas experience it would help immensely also

[rovercare]

Agree,but with dual trade,then you have people incompetent in two trades:(

does not make any sense to me....

We have remote valve stations on pipelines in the jungle of PNG that require routine maintenance, the have a generator, a UPS system and some flow gear, makes alot of sense to send someone on a chopper that can do all the tasks, as opposed to sending 2 people. Dual trade makes excellent sense

[scarry]

Dual trade makes excellent sense

Sure,in some trades/regions.

Doesn't work well in all trades.In fact in the trade i am in, i have seen many times where it fails completely.

[rovercare]

Sure,in some trades/regions.

Doesn't work well in all trades.In fact in the trade i am in, i have seen many times where it fails completely.

Heaps of places, lots of process plants have boilers or kilns with some instrumentation, no need for a full time instro, dual trader is perfect

I've spent lots of time in places like that, no bit of paper, but I can read a manual and calibrate an rtd, transmitter or dp cell

Plenty of time on plcs, scada and stuff, sure I'm no dcs tech or full fledged instro, but I can fix stuff good like:)