waterproof classing

[dullbird]

Hi Guys

Im looking at buying a waterproof duffle bag

I appreciate that even when someone says its 100% waterproof that should be taken lightly

but I have noticed that even when they say waterproof, a number of bags have different class ratings.

can anyone tell me what the difference is?

I have seen a bag that is classed 1 and I have also seen a bag that is classed 3..

I have tried searching on google and found one document but I really didnt understand what it was talking about in relation to the bonding and whether being bonded was better than not being bonded etc.

[LandyAndy]

Have a look here.
www.whitworths.com.au (http://www.whitworths.com.au)
Andrew

[dullbird]

I clicked the link but I cant see where it explains what I'm asking.

just giving me the option to buy stuff...which is not that helpful

[bent]

Hi
Have a look at over board web site. Waterproof Rating System - Dry Bags - Waterproof Case | OverBoard (http://www.over-board.com.au/waterproof-rating-system) . They explain how the ratings work. I have a few of their products with no problems.
Cheers

[Don 130]

Look up bags for rafting 'rafting dry bags'
There is plenty of info there.
If you want to waterproof a duffel bag against rain or a very quick dunk, then use Nikwax.
Don.

[dullbird]

Hi
Have a look at over board web site. Waterproof Rating System - Dry Bags - Waterproof Case | OverBoard (http://www.over-board.com.au/waterproof-rating-system) . They explain how the ratings work. I have a few of their products with no problems.
Cheers


Thats perfect thank you! exactly what I'm looking for.


And ironically the over board bags were the ones I was looking at on ebay so I'm glad you gave me the link because they are about 30/40bux cheaper :D

[romhopper]

Hi
My son is in the army and he uses those tube dry bags in his pack. He said they have even floated their packs across the pool and the pack got soaked and every bit of clothing in the dry bags stayed dried. He reckons to get atleast 3. 1 for shirts and tops, 1 for pants and 1 for socks. Just because of disease.
Thanks mick

[dullbird]

Hi Mick thanks I do have a dry tube...but im looking for a duffel type bag to fill up the compartment behind me

I intent to get a second dry tube to put other bits in the hatch :)

[ng95]

x2 on the overboard duffels very convenient on the kayaks much more so then the standard dry bag's. Although they are really only water resistant great for putting towels a spare set of clothes in or safety gear. Whilst they will stand up to splashes of water full or partial submersion will generally result in the intrusion of some water albeit a small amount. When it comes to important items keys, phones and so go down the path of hard case storage such as pelican cases a small investment can save you a lot of money and time. Learn mistakes from others some of the modern cars which are overly reliant on electronics don't like wet keys and with no keys and a phone it can become a :censored: kayak trip rather quickly.

Nick

[dullbird]

yeah the last time we went out..we put the car key in a dry tube

is that your experience with the over board bag? because according to their class rating it can basically cope with a quick submersion but no more than 3 feet and not for any length of time.

[jazzaD1]

I've got one of these Caribee Expedition Waterproof Bag 50L - Black (http://www.inluggage.com.au/travel-duffle-bags/caribee-expedition-waterproof-bag-50l-black), its great, has been rained on overnight many times and withstood someones leaking uht milk from the top of an enclosed trailer, my bag was on the bottom, inside it i have a number of nylon dry bags to seperate my gear, they are a great invention

[ng95]

My personal experience with the overboard bag was that during extended trips water would almost always find a way in on rough days or during surf launches but this was due to consistent water being directed towards the duffel water proof roll whilst on the back of the kayak. They might be able to sustain a quick submersion as sated but placing weight on them whilst in the water, would always lead to ingress. This problem will not occur in the hatch however condensation is always something to consider. The ratings i believe are just are brand specific at-least in the case of overboard products, if you can find something with a IP code (ingress protection rating) it is a much more standardised and intern reliable indication of the products waterproof/resistant rating. Another thing to look at with the fabric style dry bags is the water proof rating of the fabric anything over 10,000mm should be adequate. (10,000mm = water resistant to 10,000mm or 36ft of water for ever 24hr period)

Nick

[dullbird]

I've got one of these Caribee Expedition Waterproof Bag 50L - Black (http://www.inluggage.com.au/travel-duffle-bags/caribee-expedition-waterproof-bag-50l-black), its great, has been rained on overnight many times and withstood someones leaking uht milk from the top of an enclosed trailer, my bag was on the bottom, inside it i have a number of nylon dry bags to seperate my gear, they are a great invention

im looking at getting one of these

Waterproof Duffles (http://www.over-board.com.au/waterproof-duffel-bag-60ltr-yellow.html)

[dullbird]

My personal experience with the overboard bag was that during extended trips water would almost always find a way in on rough days or during surf launches but this was due to consistent water being directed towards the duffel water proof roll whilst on the back of the kayak. They might be able to sustain a quick submersion as sated but placing weight on them whilst in the water, would always lead to ingress. This problem will not occur in the hatch however condensation is always something to consider. The ratings i believe are just are brand specific at-least in the case of overboard products, if you can find something with a IP code (ingress protection rating) it is a much more standardised and intern reliable indication of the products waterproof/resistant rating. Another thing to look at with the fabric style dry bags is the water proof rating of the fabric anything over 10,000mm should be adequate. (10,000mm = water resistant to 10,000mm or 36ft of water for ever 24hr period)

Nick

Thanks Nic it wont be going in the hull it will be going on the back of the Kayak behind the seat where the bungee cord is...although im only really doing flat water stuff not ocean going or rapid stuff.

mmmm maybe I should look at something else then

although I just watched the video on their website that says they use the international scale for water rating so I dont think its brand specific...

[ng95]

I used the ninja duffel on the back of mine for all my camping gear, spare clothes/towels and food. Whilst water did intrude it wasn't really enough to worry about given the duffels contents. There would really only be 50-100mls in there after constant splashing for 10-15kms. I suppose what I'm trying to get at is the duffel is really only water resistant, and i personally wouldn't place valuables in them without first putting them in there own bags/cases. You can't go wrong with the overboard products in terms of quality though:).

Nick

[dullbird]

The duffle really is for things like towels and a picnic if I'm honest :D

I mean you can't burn off calories without stoping to replenish them. Hahaha